This couple is clearly in need of relationship counselling and support from their church to reconcile their differences. God wants men to treat women with respect and love, not to brutalise them.
Actually my first post on the matter suggested they should be stoned to death. I can only commend other posters who have suggested alternative strategies to bring the woman back into line short of execution. In my mind that is counselling and support.
This couple is clearly in need of relationship counselling and support from their church to reconcile their differences. God wants men to treat women with respect and love, not to brutalise them.
God wants us to subjugate them. Read the Bible, dyke.
1 Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands
When The Israelites departed from God's Clear Commandments He took appropriate steps, out of Love for His people, to correct them. That is the model presented in The Bible for the authority of the Husband over the wife and the example for her correction. He is to her as God is to him.
Now before anyone starts thinking I will post God's Word on the matter (again).
Perhaps there is room for opinion on some subjects, such as whether to buy a marrow or a pumpkin [subject to Pastoral approval] but where Husbands are concerned there is none. In ancient times or under The Dispensation Of Grace the rules are exactly the same.
God has said so.
Here:
to exist in subjection (not on a mutually co-operative basis or with wives issuing instructions to their owners)
I Peter 3:1aLikewise, ye wiues, be in subiection to your owne husbands,
to be frightened of one's Husband
I Peter 3:2 While they beholde your chaste conuersation coupled withfeare:
nothing has changed in this matter from Old Testament times to the modern era
Probably the rag-bag assortment of lady "preachers" who advocate marriage even between 2 women have some other standard. That is anyone's choice of course but please don't pretend it has anything to do with The Bible or with the wonderful example of God's Perfect Love for His Chosen and the obligation of the Husband to discipline and cleanse his wife.
This couple is clearly in need of relationship counselling and support from their church to reconcile their differences. God wants men to treat women with respect and love, not to brutalise them.
It's not about brutalising women (it is well known that does not work, all the time) it is about encouraging them directly to follow the instructions as layed down in the Bible (KJV1611).
Surely you see that using subtle psychological methods to ensure that your wife does not go to Hell is better than battering her?
Maybe True Christians love their wives enough not to want them to go to Hell?
I don't have the answers: I just know what works and laying in with one's fist is not the only option.
This couple is clearly in need of relationship counselling and support from their church to reconcile their differences. God wants men to treat women with respect and love, not to brutalise them.
Hmmm... Sounds like she found out it is the year 2012 and you don't own her.
I hope she kicks you in the balls, take everything you have and divorce you!
Divorce is a sin, my unsaved friend. Matthew 19:6-8
And according to the property laws of the Bible, a husband does own his wife, or if the woman is unmarried, she belongs to her father. That's why a rapist must pay property damage to his victim's father.
The time I married my wife I could never imagine that she would ever betray me or the Lord. Nevertheless I think she might be attracted to my neigbour, as she visits him all the time and stays there for hours. She talks about finding herself a job more often and doesn't want to clean up our flat no more. Also she has some weird ideas about independency, talking about men and women should be treated equally in any case.
I'm in a serious depression and I'm asking you to pray for me, as I did the past few days. (Also with my fists in her face, if you know what I mean.)
YIC
Pater Doit
Oh my! This is serious! I certainly hope her punishments are getting more severe!
The time I married my wife I could never imagine that she would ever betray me or the Lord. Nevertheless I think she might be attracted to my neigbour, as she visits him all the time and stays there for hours. She talks about finding herself a job more often and doesn't want to clean up our flat no more. Also she has some weird ideas about independency, talking about men and women should be treated equally in any case.
I'm in a serious depression and I'm asking you to pray for me, as I did the past few days. (Also with my fists in her face, if you know what I mean.)
YIC
Pater Doit
Brother where is your brood of children when your wife is away at the neighbors home?
Brother Niles, I must commend you on your Godly post. In a clear and concise way you have helped to reverse so many years of anti-God feminist rants about "individuality" and "independence". If only more God-fearing husbands would show such love and caring towards their spouses we wouldn't even need Covenant Marriages to force people to stay together!
I would echo the words of my esteemed friends (and Noah).
I would go on to add that you really need to start gently undermining her self esteem by lovingly criticising her when she feels any sense of pride or accomplishment.
Useful phrases are: "yeah, but you could have done better, couldn't you?", "did you actually think that was good enough?", "for God's sake, I'll do it shall I?" and "why are you crying?."
What you may notice is that they are all questions that ask her to justify her thoughts and actions to you.
That's right: you need to encourage her to seek your approval for everything she thinks or does. A great way to do this is to imply at every turn that she is NOTHING without you and that NOBODY BUT YOU will ever like her.
Gently imply that other people see her for the shallow empty thing that she is and that hey talk about her and judge her (do your best to chose personality traits of hers she feels worst about) behind her back: and they laugh at her.
To reduce the chance of hateful outsiders trying to break up your Christian love match leave subtle hints that she has started taking antidepressants (citalopram 40mg is a good choice as you can say she has an anxiety disorder and well as depression).
Constantly make good hearted excuses for her to foster the idea that she is greatly disturbed and they will gradually start to withdraw thier friendship from her and doubtless she will soon realise this and she will feel more isolated and lonely than ever.
From here you can reinforce the idea that NOBODY LOVES HER LIKE YOU DO. This is very important: you must become the centre of her entire world (I can't stress this enough, I really can't).
Eventually she will become dependent on you and any bruises can be dealt with by keeping her inside as saying "she's having a bad day, she missed her meds...". This also endears you to her friends and you can monitor any nosy parkers from sticking their beaks where they are not wanted.
Well, all that was of the top of my head, hope it was useful.
The time I married my wife I could never imagine that she would ever betray me or the Lord. Nevertheless I think she might be attracted to my neigbour, as she visits him all the time and stays there for hours. She talks about finding herself a job more often and doesn't want to clean up our flat no more. Also she has some weird ideas about independency, talking about men and women should be treated equally in any case.
I'm in a serious depression and I'm asking you to pray for me, as I did the past few days. (Also with my fists in her face, if you know what I mean.)
YIC
Pater Doit
I must agree with Redeemed Papist here -- it is the back-sassing that needs tending to immediately. I suggest you spend some time with her in the Word. You need to be on top of her at every turn, making sure that you teach her the Godly role that women are supposed to play: as a helper, as a bearer of children and a maker of food. Her role is not to do what makes her happy, but to do what makes you happy. I am sure that Austria has many, many influences that will try to drag her away from her happy Christian household, but as Man of the House, you must keep her delicate sensibilities from being overwhelmed. Monitor her friends, and make sure that she doesn't see any ungodly influences.
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