Fearful Believer

[Fearful Believer]

I will start this post by firmly explaining to you that i am a firm believer in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. I have faith in his everlasting love and compassion. I believe that God loves each and everyone of us, as we are his children. And i am afraid. Afraid at what our religion is turning into; afraid that God's children are turning their back on him; afraid that though we know of God's compassion and love, we do not in return show compassion and love to our fellow believers. Why am i afraid?

Because I identify myself as Gay.

Yes that is correct, i believe in God and i am still classified as a homosexual. Now i know i will be judged by this community, though “Do not judge so that you will not be judged” Matthew 7:1.

I came across this 'True Christian ™' forum via a web search after seeing an ad that played in Canada that states that "Weed (marijuana) makes you gay". I was appalled at the views that were taken, such as: Marijuana makes you more flexible which leads to autofilatio, or that the neural inhibitors cause you to get raped. This is honestly and truthfully ignorance based on biased assumptions. If truth be told (as it should always be), alcohol is more likely to lead to individuals (male and female) to being abused.

That however is only what brought me to this forum, and after reading more and more into the messages that are posted i became more and more confused. I don't think that it is understood in the True Christian ™ that homosexuality is not a choice. Yes you will argue with me, yes you will cast me aside for saying such a thing, but again truth be told, more and more studies (even done by Christian study centers) are showing that homosexuality is determined at birth.

For example: It has been researched that women who give birth to increasing amounts of male offspring, each consecutive male born has a higher chance of being identified as a homosexual. The woman's body fights the male embryo

[Fearful Believer]

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by releasing increased female hormones. These hormones stay in the woman's body clear to the next inception which the combined new and old hormones combat the male embryo (which is seen by the body as a parasitic invasion). Thusly causing males to be born with increased levels of strictly female hormones. Traits begin to show such as in gay males their forefinger and ring finger are nearly identical in length (may vary), and biologically gay men have more of the hormone Serotonin in their brains.

So the argument that homosexuality is a choice has unfortunately been all but proven incorrect.

Adding to my confusion is a question of the verses of Leviticus. As i know you are all aware, Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (King James Bible) is the verse that is most use to condemn homosexuality. I would like to point out the clear, very clear, distinction between Mankind, and womankind. In this verse there is a clear distinction between a man and a woman, however reading the entirety of Leviticus there is no subsequent verse that states that 'womankind shalt not lie with womankind, as with mankind'. The lack of this verse shows something very important, that there is a clear separation that states that being Gay is wrong, but being a Lesbian is not wrong. I find this compelling that through all the sermons that i sat that spoke of homosexuality, it was always directed at men. This tells me that there is much bias and distortion that deviates away from that which God says.

I see this and i am afraid. If you uphold this particular verse as true, you must also uphold the other laws that lead up to and go past that verse such as:

A child to be killed if he/she curses their parent (Leviticus 20:9)
The bride of a priest to be a virgin (21:13)
Ritual killing of animals, using cattle, sheep and goats (22:19)
A person who takes the Lord's name in vain is to be killed (24:16)

And the verses which prohibit acts such as:
Harvesting the corners of a field (19:9)
Shaving or getting a hair cut (19:27)
Charging of interest on a loan (25:37)
Eating of non-kosher foods (e.g. shrimp)

Now i ask you, have you followed these rules, have you partaken of shrimp, have you shaved or gotten a haircut, have you offered animals to God in ritualistic sacrifice, have you killed a child that has cursed his or her parents? If you stand behind one, you must stand behind all.

I pray for all Gods children that they may open their eyes to not the blinded shepherd, but to the words of God, of his Love, his Kindness, his Forgiveness. I Believe in God, I Believe in Jesus Christ, I accept him father, son, and holy spirit, into my heart and I pray. I pray that one day you will see the true beauty that is his creation, gay or straight. I am afraid but with God as my guidance, not ignorance, i know i can make it through what ever hate is thrown my way by nearsightedness and fear.

Praise be to God.
God Bless You

[Beeilnnore]

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Gay pride!

[CyberYahweh]

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Hello and God Bless! The first step to Salvation is admitting you have a problem. Now, since you've used the lying axiom of science to conclude that it is anything but your own choice, you've successfully subscribed to an apostate theology! I implore you to strike this from your heart.

The 1611 K.J.V. clearly defines homersexuality, and all that it implies - as you've kindly referenced above. Now, knowing that you're NOT RIGHT WITH GOD and his Earthly constituents; you must immediately start down the path to Salvation.

First, and formost:

Subscribe to one of America's many successful, Faith-driven ABSTINENCE PROGRAMS; to stop this abomination from festering!

Furthermore, after your demon-tentacle is restrained, I highly endorse that you enroll in LBC's Homersexual Rehabilitation Forum. The exorcism of homosexuality success rate in forum members is astonishingly high - 100%, to be precise.

Sidenote: notwithstanding, most who fail rehabilitation are stoned to death, or on a more lenient note, banned from these sacred forums; in my humble observations.

[Levi Jones]

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by releasing increased female hormones. These hormones stay in the woman's body clear to the next inception which the combined new and old hormones combat the male embryo (which is seen by the body as a parasitic invasion). Thusly causing males to be born with increased levels of strictly female hormones. Traits begin to show such as in gay males their forefinger and ring finger are nearly identical in length (may vary), and biologically gay men have more of the hormone Serotonin in their brains.

So the argument that homosexuality is a choice has unfortunately been all but proven incorrect.

Adding to my confusion is a question of the verses of Leviticus. As i know you are all aware, Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (King James Bible) is the verse that is most use to condemn homosexuality. I would like to point out the clear, very clear, distinction between Mankind, and womankind. In this verse there is a clear distinction between a man and a woman, however reading the entirety of Leviticus there is no subsequent verse that states that 'womankind shalt not lie with womankind, as with mankind'. The lack of this verse shows something very important, that there is a clear separation that states that being Gay is wrong, but being a Lesbian is not wrong. I find this compelling that through all the sermons that i sat that spoke of homosexuality, it was always directed at men. This tells me that there is much bias and distortion that deviates away from that which God says.

Wrong, wrong and wrong fag. Paul writes the following.

1 Corinthians 6:9 have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,

Here Paul writes against both the queers and the dykes.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Jesus 2 Queers 0

[CyberYahweh]

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I rebuke myself for overlooking Fearful Believer's assertion that homersexuality didn't appear elsewhere in His Holy Book, The Bible. FB's words were many, and most tedious.


Good Shot, Pastor Levi.

[Lisa H]

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These homers make me laugh. They Blame everyone else because they are a homer except themselves. This one is blaming his mother because he did not have sister.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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What a steaming pile of satanic lies you've left us. The bizzarro self-deceptions that you sodomites are capable of never cease to amaze me.

Here's all you need to know, nancy: God hates you for being a queer. You can argue the details all you like, but the Holy Bible is crystal clear on this subject. What He wants you to do is to stop being a queer and go back to being normal. Put on your man pants and do the right thing: Marry a Christian lady, boss her around, produce a bunch of sons, beat them regularly, then send them off to war to send muslims to hell for Jesus. Attend church, study the Bible, obey it's every commandment, and tithe robustly. Simple enough.

Now get with the program.

[landoverlover]

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That's a whole lot of words. In response:

Pack fudge, you burn.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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@ fudgepacker

All of those studies that say faggotry is not a choice but a matter of genetics, those studies were made up by queers in order to convince other practicing queers that they lack the power to abstain from butt rape. What better way to populate Hell than to convince sinners they have no choice but to sin!

[Jo Freddie]

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See how these "christians" make you so welcome, but that are right on one thing, their bible makes it very clear what their "god" thinks of homosexuality, that is one of the things that should have alerted you by now that "christianity" knows very little about the TRUE nature of Our Lord and Creator, The Flying Spaghetti monster.

Any deity worthy of our worship would not hate his creation as much as the "god" of their beloved KJV-CFT does, The True Creator tells us..

The Eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"

3. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Judge People For The Way They Look, Or How They Dress, Or The Way They Talk, Or, Well, Just Play Nice, Okay? Oh, And Get This In Your Thick Heads: Woman = Person. Man = Person. Samey = Samey. One Is Not Better Than The Other, Unless We're Talking About Fashion And I'm Sorry, But I Gave That To Women And Some Guys Who Know The Difference Between Teal and Fuchsia.

4. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Indulge In Conduct That Offends Yourself, Or Your Willing, Consenting Partner Of Legal Age AND Mental Maturity. As For Anyone Who Might Object, I Think The Expression Is Go F*** Yourself, Unless They Find That Offensive In Which Case They Can Turn Off the TV For Once And Go For A Walk For A Change.

8. I'd Really Rather You Didn't Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You If You Are Into, Um, Stuff That Uses A Lot Of Leather/Lubricant/Las Vegas. If The Other Person Is Into It, However (Pursuant To #4), Then Have At It, Take Pictures, And For The Love Of Mike, Wear a CONDOM! Honestly, It's A Piece Of Rubber. If I Didn't Want It To Feel Good When You Did IT I Would Have Added Spikes, Or Something.

You can find out more about the TRUE nature of God by reading the following

• The Holy Noodle
• A Condensed History of the World
• Edd's Letters

and by following the links in my signature.

RAmen

[Johny Joe Hold]

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There is no need for anyone to stuggle with their homosexuality when we are here to help.

[Fearful Believer]

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1 Corinthians 6:9 have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites.

The NIV and KJV of the Bible clearly condemn homosexual behavior at 1 Corinthians 6:9 and Romans 1:28 in the Christian Scriptures. These translations generally interpret the Greek words "malakoi" and "arsenokoitai" as referring to homosexuals. However when these words were written by Paul there was a common phrase for the homosexual "paiderasste" which was not used. Misleading translation can lead to lead to mislead hate.

Praise be to God
and may God bless you.

[James Dewitt]

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The NIV and KJV of the Bible clearly condemn homosexual behavior at 1 Corinthians 6:9 and Romans 1:28 in the Christian Scriptures. These translations generally interpret the Greek words "malakoi" and "arsenokoitai" as referring to homosexuals. However when these words were written by Paul there was a common phrase for the homosexual "paiderasste" which was not used. Misleading translation can lead to lead to mislead hate.

Praise be to God
and may God bless you.

No no no, you must take the word of God letter for letter, word for word. God hates Homersexurals period end of story!

[Fearful Believer]

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No no no, you must take the word of God letter for letter, word for word. God hates Homersexurals period end of story!

Then i ask you what i asked in my previous post, have you eaten shrimp, have you ritualistically slaughtered animals to god, have killed children who have cursed their parents (I have personally never done any of these things. I encourage you to understand that i am not saying so.)? If as you say you must take the word of God letter for letter, word for word, then answering these questions in another way than no, yes, yes is against Gods holy word.