[Liam the ex-drunk]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

The perverts who taught you the nonsense you are currently spouting were lying about the Bible just as much as the lied about not being paedos. Deal with it, paddy.

I think the words in the Bible that God wrote count as words.

Thanks for that Brother T.

Do you really think everything they taught me was a lie?

Love thy neighbour, Ever lasting life, Hell for Sinners, Heaven for the righteous. (I do believe in Heaven and Hell, inspite of the infraction I received). Although I'm unsure about the concept of purgatory - I don't think there should be any middle ground.

True there were/are some very evil Peado priests and the sooner the Catholic church roots them out the better, but it has taken an international scandal to allow this to happen. There is not a Parish in Ireland that has been untouched (excuse the pun) by a Peado priest and this was because rather than give them up to the authorities, the church and in some instances the Irish state decided to move the problem along elsewhere and the same priests abused over and over again.

[Liam the ex-drunk]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

Well mick, are you sure you were not just too drunk to remember?

Hi again Hick,

No I wasn't too drnk to remember. I've only started drinking about 2 years ago. And when I do it's only red wine.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

I can start by suggestion that the story of creation could be regarded as inerrant. We are taught that the creation story is just that, a metaphorical representation on Gods glory.

I've no wish to engage with Priests. The recent scandals within the catholic church have, for want of a better phrase, diluted my trust in priests, although I don't tar them all with the same brush, I still have grave misgivings.

The perverts who taught you the nonsense you are currently spouting were lying about the Bible just as much as the lied about not being paedos. Deal with it, paddy.

I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?

I think the words in the Bible that God wrote count as words.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

I have some concerns, as a Roman Catholic, am I welcome on these forums?

While I respect everyone's right to worship and religious freedoms, the vitriol and what I consider hogwash against the Roman Catholic church on some threads here, I see as an attack on my church.

I'm slightly concerned that if I profess my beliefs and traditions in discussion threads, then I may be on the end of a tongue lashing from some of the more conservative members of this forum. At the end of teh day do we not all worship the same God?

This is not the "hey I've got a question" forum. It's the introduction forum. That's where you tell us about yourself.

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

[Liam the ex-drunk]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

Thank you, I think?

There are a few Cathlick priests that roam these forums.. so it is possible to engage in more conversing.

Either way welcome and I hope these fine Christian warriors can help change your mind.

Janine Walker

Thanks Janine.

Although a self professed catholic, I will admit to being somewhat lapsed. I've no wish to engage with Priests. The recent scandals within the catholic church have, for want of a better phrase, diluted my trust in priests, although I don't tar them all with the same brush, I still have grave misgivings.

Similarly, some of my earalier posts may have seemed that I'm some sort of sheep bastard, I'm not. I don't blindly follow. Similarly, the popes infallibility should be challenged and can be challenged.

[Janine Walker]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

Hi Janine, your post above actually makes the most sense to me, out of all that I have already read. It is also the least bellicose, thank you.

While I respect your beliefs and faith, I have no intention of renouncing mine. As I mentioned, I like the scriptural discussion in this forum. I'm hoping to have many more with you in the future. That is, providing I don't have to convert to engage.

Thank you, I think?

There are a few Cathlick priests that roam these forums.. so it is possible to engage in more conversing.

Either way welcome and I hope these fine Christian warriors can help change your mind.

Janine Walker

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

Also, And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matt 16:18)

Yes, and therefore ... ? How does that prove that the current pope is another Holy Father, when Jesus already said who the Holy Father is?

I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?

You do realize, of course, that in the verse from Matthew that I quoted, it was Christ talking. Under your reading, it would have made no sense for Him to say, "my words shall not pass away" instead of "I will not pass away."

[Johannes Kirkeholm]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

I can start by suggestion that the story of creation could be regarded as inerrant. We are taught that the creation story is just that, a metaphorical representation on Gods glory.

Where do you draw the line? Is the story of Noah and his arc metaphorical? How about Jonah and the fish? How about the virgin birth and the ressurection of Jesus? Are these metaphores as well? And if they aren't how do distinguish which parts of the Bible are metaphorical and which aren't? And how does the idea that parts of the Bible are metaphorical fit with the following Scripture?

2 Peter 1:20-21
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost

And why can't God who is perfect not express himself clearly without having people guessing the meaning to His Words?

I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?

Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Not his Words. The Words are the Bible. If you don't believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God then you must believe in one of option 2-5.

So which of the following do you believe?

1. God preserved His Word, as He promised.
2. God reneged on His promise to preserve His Word, in which case He is not loving.
3. God couldn't preserve His Word, in which case He is a weakling.
4. The Bible was never God's Word to begin with.
5. There is no God.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

I can start by suggestion that the story of creation could be regarded as inerrant. We are taught that the creation story is just that, a metaphorical representation on Gods glory.

Also, And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matt 16:18)

I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?

Why do you people pray to Mary and the other dead Popes? It does not make a lick of sense. Jesus is the one you need to talk to. Mary is the mother of Jesus and that's all, just a female. Its almost like you think that Mary is your Joo lawyer, you do not need a mouthpiece to pray to Jesus.

[Liam the ex-drunk]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

Psalms 1:1-2

As it clearly states, THE LAW OF THE LORD, not the law of the Lord and Mary.

I realize the appeal of worshiping Mary, as a female, but I also realize that it is against God's word to do it. God is my father, God is my teacher, and God is my life. It'd make it easier on me being a female to worship her and have an easier set of rules upon me in the Catlick church but God didn't make this life easy because it is his test for admittance into the greatest of all places for a Christian; Heaven.

2 Corinthians 4:16-18


16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man wis renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us ya far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Have faith, convert to the real saved, the Baptist Christians!

God Bless and I pray for you to surrender yourself to Jesus Christ, Janine Walker

Hi Janine, your post above actually makes the most sense to me, out of all that I have already read. It is also the least bellicose, thank you.

While I respect your beliefs and faith, I have no intention of renouncing mine. As I mentioned, I like the scriptural discussion in this forum. I'm hoping to have many more with you in the future. That is, providing I don't have to convert to engage.

[Liam the ex-drunk]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

Since it's a false faith that will lead you to hell, of course we want you to renounce it. Do you think we want you to suffer eternally? What kind of monsters do you take us to be?

Would you care to back that up with Scripture? The only mention of a "Holy Father" in the KJV is the Father in Heaven:

John 17:11: And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].

How do you know which parts of the Bible are the inerrant Word of God and which parts are something else? Also, God promised to preserve His words:

Psalm 12:6-7: The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Isaiah 40:8: The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matt. 24:35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

So which of the following do you believe?

1. God preserved His Word, as He promised.
2. God reneged on His promise to preserve His Word, in which case He is not loving.
3. God couldn't preserve His Word, in which case He is a weakling.
4. The Bible was never God's Word to begin with.
5. There is no God.

If it's any of 2-5, in what sense are you a Christian?

I can start by suggestion that the story of creation could be regarded as inerrant. We are taught that the creation story is just that, a metaphorical representation on Gods glory.

Also, And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matt 16:18)

I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?

[Janine Walker]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

Psalms 1:1-2

As it clearly states, THE LAW OF THE LORD, not the law of the Lord and Mary.

I realize the appeal of worshiping Mary, as a female, but I also realize that it is against God's word to do it. God is my father, God is my teacher, and God is my life. It'd make it easier on me being a female to worship her and have an easier set of rules upon me in the Catlick church but God didn't make this life easy because it is his test for admittance into the greatest of all places for a Christian; Heaven.

2 Corinthians 4:16-18


16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man wis renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us ya far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Have faith, convert to the real saved, the Baptist Christians!

God Bless and I pray for you to surrender yourself to Jesus Christ, Janine Walker

[Liam the ex-drunk]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

You just got through saying that you worship her. Which is it? Also, why pray to her for her succour and intercession when the Bible says the following:

1 Timothy 2:5-6: For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

No, it does not make you a polytheist, since the Trinity, unlike much of Catholic doctrine, is Biblically supported.

Perhaps I was hasty with my words, worship was not quite the right word, perhaps revere and adulate would be better. As Catholics, we do pray to Mary. We light candles for Succour, and one reason for this brings to mind the following;

My soul magnifies the Lord, And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the lowly state of his maidservant; For behold,
henceforth all generations will call me blessed. (Lk 1:46-49)

From this, I believe that by praying to the Blessed virgin, her intercession magnifies the grace of God upon us.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

I am not a polytheist I believe in one God. I believe in Mary the mother of God and pray for her succour and intersession.

I also believe in the Holy trinity, 1 God - 3 manifestations (The father, Son and Holy Ghost), do prods believe in the trinity? Does that make me a polytheist?

Do you believe that Mary is the fourth member of the Trinity?

What does that mean? You want me to renounce my faith?

God forbid. Our holy father is Christ's representative here on Earth.

Why would He need a representative? Our Father is not here on Earth, he art in Heaven!

Whilst I do enjoy Scripture I do not regard every line as the inerrant Word of God.

But you do regard every piece of nonsense that the Pope happens to burble as being infallible, yes? How do you tell which parts of the Bible are inerrant and which ones aren't?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

What does that mean? You want me to renounce my faith?

Since it's a false faith that will lead you to hell, of course we want you to renounce it. Do you think we want you to suffer eternally? What kind of monsters do you take us to be?

God forbid. Our holy father is Christ's representative here on Earth.

Would you care to back that up with Scripture? The only mention of a "Holy Father" in the KJV is the Father in Heaven:

John 17:11: And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].

I joined this Website because I love scripture, I love studying it, I revel in the fact that it is so compex yet so simple.

I enjoy unpicking God's word from the myriad of secular translations and comparing it to Douay-Rheims version. Whilst I do enjoy Scripture I do not regard every line as the inerrant Word of God.

How do you know which parts of the Bible are the inerrant Word of God and which parts are something else? Also, God promised to preserve His words:

Psalm 12:6-7: The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Isaiah 40:8: The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matt. 24:35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

So which of the following do you believe?

1. God preserved His Word, as He promised.
2. God reneged on His promise to preserve His Word, in which case He is not loving.
3. God couldn't preserve His Word, in which case He is a weakling.
4. The Bible was never God's Word to begin with.
5. There is no God.

If it's any of 2-5, in what sense are you a Christian?