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  • AConfusedSoul
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    • Jan 2011
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    #1

    New and curious

    Hi! I'm new here, but I've read the bible quite a bit, and I came across some things which were a bit unclear to me. Could someone please help me clear these up?

    For example, homosexuality. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. However, a friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

    I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

    I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

    Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

    I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

    Thanks! I'm really not quite sure what I should do, please help me reach a solution.
  • Abigail
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    • Jan 2011
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    #2
    Re: New and curious

    Hello! I will let the men answer your questions as I am only a woman but I wanted to welcome you to God's favorite forum.
    How many children do you have?
    How long have you been a True Christian?
    But the fearful, and unbelieving,
    and the abominable, and murderers, and
    whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake
    which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. - Rev 21:8

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    • AConfusedSoul
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      • Jan 2011
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      #3
      Re: New and curious

      Thank you!
      I have just one child, a daughter, her name is Danielle.
      I have been a Christian all my life, my parents raised me as a Roman Catholic but as I began to teach myself more about the faith, I decided to become a Baptist at the age of 14.

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      • BelieverInGod
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        • Feb 2010
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        #4
        Re: New and curious

        Oh my, nobody's posted this old nut for about 2 hours.

        Plagiarism is illegal.
        Drama queen

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        • AConfusedSoul
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          • Jan 2011
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          #5
          Re: New and curious

          My apologies; the questions come from an essay I found online, posted here:


          I came across it while web browsing, and thought it raised some interesting points.
          But I'm honestly not quite sure how to rationalize these phrases being in the Bible; many are shocking, and why would God write such things?

          I've been looking for answers, but links to such discussions usually turn out to have been deleted. I was hoping if I posed as one of these internet 'trolls', it might incite someone into linking me a discussion, or better, clearing the matter up by explaining it themselves.

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          • Lycia The Repentant
            Ex-prostitute on her knees for the Lord
            Now that she's Saved©, Priceless
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            • Sep 2010
            • 2019

            #6
            Re: New and curious

            Originally posted by AConfusedSoul View Post
            Hi! I'm new here, but I've read the bible quite a bit, and I came across some things which were a bit unclear to me. Could someone please help me clear these up?
            Hello friend, that's an awful lot of interesting questions you have here. I'll see what I can do to clear them up for you.

            For example, homosexuality. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. However, a friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
            Well, most of the dietary laws no longer apply (Mark 7:15-19, Acts 10:12-16 and Romans 14:1-3), but according to Acts the laws against shrimp may still be in effect.

            "Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat." Acts 10:12-13

            So I'd be wary of it. However, if it is still prohibited, then eating shrimp is just as bad as homosexuality, murder, adultery, thievery, heathenism, or any other sin as per James 2.

            "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10

            I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
            It really depends on her age. Check Leviticus 27 for pricing details.

            "And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary. And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels. And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels. And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels."
            Leviticus 27:3-7

            I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
            I agree! It can be really tough to tell when the liebral woman of today doesn't even care about how she's making everything unclean by being out and about during the time of her issue. Fortunately, the Bible is quite clear about what to do in those situations, and the answer is right in the scripture you cited.

            "And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even." Leviticus 15:21-23

            It's probably best to just assume that any woman who isn't a True Christian(tm) you come in contact with is issuing at the moment. I agree that it's disgusting, but as long as you wash your clothes and bathe every day, you should be fine. Of course, separating yourself from all unsaved harlots is probably a better solution.

            Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
            You really need to read a few other verses to understand this one in context. Leviticus 19:27 is best understood when paired with Leviticus 19:28 and Deuteronomy 14:1.

            "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD."
            Leviticus 19:27-28

            "Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead."
            Deuteronomy 14:1

            Pay special attention to "nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead". This means that the prohibition against cutting your hair only applies for mourning practices. For example, it would be prohibited to shave your head for a funeral, but there's nothing wrong with getting a haircut when you need one.

            I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
            As of right now, no. Romans 13 is very clear on the fact that we need to follow secular law, and as of right now secular law forbids killing people, even if they're working on the Sabbath.

            "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." Romans 13:1-4

            Of course, this will hopefully change when we get a real Godly Republican in office. I know I can't wait for that day. Praise Jesus!

            Thanks! I'm really not quite sure what I should do, please help me reach a solution.
            I hope I've helped!
            "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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            My five Six Step Guide to Stopping Your Miserable Harlotry!
            Do you hate fornication? Join the Junior Anti-Sex League and help stop it today!
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            • AConfusedSoul
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              #7
              Re: New and curious

              I'm well aware of some of the press this site has taken, and I did not presume to think that my quotes would not be recognized.
              As I said, I merely wish to receive an explanation, or even a link to a discussion, so that I can remain secure in my Faith and my belief in the Bible and in Jesus.

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              • AConfusedSoul
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                #8
                Re: New and curious

                Thank you very much for your reply! It makes much more sense now. I appreciate your time.
                I apologize for the out-of-order message above, it is due to my own error in not realizing that there was a 5-minute delay between posting messages; I did not see Sister Lycia's reply until it was too late.

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                • Lycia The Repentant
                  Ex-prostitute on her knees for the Lord
                  Now that she's Saved©, Priceless
                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 2019

                  #9
                  Re: New and curious

                  Originally posted by AConfusedSoul View Post
                  Thank you very much for your reply! It makes much more sense now. I appreciate your time.
                  I apologize for the out-of-order message above, it is due to my own error in not realizing that there was a 5-minute delay between posting messages; I did not see Sister Lycia's reply until it was too late.
                  Not a problem. Now that I took the time to answer all of your questions, why don't you introduce yourself? What's your name? What church did you go to? What sort of horrifying life of sin and debauchery did you lead before finding Jesus? Favorite Bible verse?

                  EDIT: I didn't realize you already posted about this, but I'm still interested in hearing your favorite Bible verse.
                  "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

                  An Important Reminder for all unSaved© Ladies
                  Protect Yourself! Important Information about Demons
                  My five Six Step Guide to Stopping Your Miserable Harlotry!
                  Do you hate fornication? Join the Junior Anti-Sex League and help stop it today!
                  An Open Question to All false christians.

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                  • Bible Student
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2474

                    #10
                    Re: New and curious

                    Originally posted by AConfusedSoul View Post
                    Hi! I'm new here,
                    Thanks! I'm really not quite sure what I should do, please help me reach a solution.
                    First of all you should stop copying and pasting something that has been circulating the InterWebs for almost as long as you have been on earth. We have all seen A Letter To Dr. Laura before dozens upon dozens of times.

                    Secondly a proper introduction is in order. What words in the title did you not understand? Let me call the title of this particular forum to your attention -- The introduction forum Attention Unsaved Trash: This the ONLY subforum you can start threads in. Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.
                    YiJC, BS

                    II Peter 1:4 -- Whereby are giuen vnto vs exceeding great and precious promises, that by these you might bee partakers of thy diuine nature, hauing escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

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