Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

[detrevni]

Hello, my name is Sunil Patel, and I seek to speak with such wise people about God for knowledge. Yet first there are things which must be said. Decorum is I think the word. I am a twenty-six year old, unmarried man living in a suburb near Cincinnati, Ohio. I was born in India and was raised in the Hindu ways, but was converted by a friend with a wonderful book which I came to learn was a Red Letter Bible a little over a year ago. I own no firearm, I am not sure I could own one, as I am not yet a citizen. I think my favorite passage that I have discovered so far is Corinthians 5:7.

Well I suppose that is all, hello once more, I hope I can gain further enlightenment through all the knowledgeable people here.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

Hello Sunil!

Would that be 1st or 2nd Corinthians?

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth
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[detrevni]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

I meant 2nd, sorry.
के लिए हम दृष्टि से विश्वास से नहीं रहते हैं,

For we walk by faith, not by sight

[ExGay Alex]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

Welcome to the forum! We are a friendly place. I am pleased that you have renounced your Hindu ways. These sorts of terrorist "religions" are very destructive.

[Midge Murphy]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

Hello, my name is Sunil Patel, and I seek to speak with such wise people about God for knowledge. Yet first there are things which must be said. Decorum is I think the word. I am a twenty-six year old, unmarried man living in a suburb near Cincinnati, Ohio. I was born in India and was raised in the Hindu ways, but was converted by a friend with a wonderful book which I came to learn was a Red Letter Bible a little over a year ago. I own no firearm, I am not sure I could own one, as I am not yet a citizen. I think my favorite passage that I have discovered so far is Corinthians 5:7.

Well I suppose that is all, hello once more, I hope I can gain further enlightenment through all the knowledgeable people here.

welcome to america, ther eis guy named patel who works at the 7-11 near me do u no him, probly u are related, did u come to american to get better food, i think they are starving in india and this is becuz they dont know jesus and also there food is full of spices such as vindaloo which is a poison, i no becuz i am studing to be a cook and this indian lady named amrita was there and she was always cooking with powders like cumin and everybody hated it and pastor pickle said cumin smells like a sweaty italian woman on a bus and then amrita said no and we told her she had a liptsick spot on her forhead go clean it off and she went to the ladies and she didnt come back after that but se was reallynice acept for her cooking.

[detrevni]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

Welcome to the forum! We are a friendly place. I am pleased that you have renounced your Hindu ways. These sorts of terrorist "religions" are very destructive.

I must apologize, I have renounced my Hindu beliefs, but to say that they are terrorist beliefs I still find offensive. Most of my family still practices the old ways, and though I now see that their path to salvation is flawed and am saddened by the fact that they will not pass on to eternal salvation with me I cannot say that they are not kind, compassionate people who are simply misguided. Terror is spread by people of all religions, and while it is plain to see most terror come from the middle-east as of late, it also seems apparent that the terrorists use religion as a mask to hide political agenda, so I feel it reflects nothing on the actual believers in Islam.

[detrevni]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

welcome to america, ther eis guy named patel who works at the 7-11 near me do u no him, probly u are related, did u come to american to get better food, i think they are starving in india and this is becuz they dont know jesus and also there food is full of spices such as vindaloo which is a poison, i no becuz i am studing to be a cook and this indian lady named amrita was there and she was always cooking with powders like cumin and everybody hated it and pastor pickle said cumin smells like a sweaty italian woman on a bus and then amrita said no and we told her she had a liptsick spot on her forhead go clean it off and she went to the ladies and she didnt come back after that but se was reallynice acept for her cooking.

Just as I have met two people names Kurs which were not related, so have you now met two people named Patel who were not related, though Indian people are quite adept at multiplying, not all are related. As for better food, no. Though I enjoy the Americanized versions of many foods better than their traditional counterparts, I still enjoy classical Indian food, as does a significant part of the outside world. India food even makes up two thirds of the eating out industry of Great Britain. As for starvation, it is unfortunately a true enough statement, India is undergoing rapid industrialization, and in the same trend that Britain and America followed during their Industrial Revolutions, overcrowding, poor living conditions, and terrible workers rights run rampant throughout the cities of India.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

My newfound friend, a path to salvation that is "flawed" is a path to Hell, and therefor a cold slap in the beautiful face of Our Lord Jesus Christ. I pray that you will do everything you can to turn your family away from their demonic multi-armed elephant worship and help them come to God!



YiC,

Z. Smyth
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[Midge Murphy]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

I must apologize, I have renounced my Hindu beliefs, but to say that they are terrorist beliefs I still find offensive. Most of my family still practices the old ways, and though I now see that their path to salvation is flawed and am saddened by the fact that they will not pass on to eternal salvation with me I cannot say that they are not kind, compassionate people who are simply misguided. Terror is spread by people of all religions, and while it is plain to see most terror come from the middle-east as of late, it also seems apparent that the terrorists use religion as a mask to hide political agenda, so I feel it reflects nothing on the actual believers in Islam.

i never seen a christian suicide bomber, i think the soldiers in irak would agree that all of the IUDs planted by the terrorissts next to the roads are all mulsims, it is pretty sad really, pastor pickle in my church wrote a article about muslms in the chruch newletter and it there he sayd:

In Mecca, where Muhammad was weak, he attacked no one. He only preached his religion and insulted the Meccan's religions. But it was just prior to his leaving for Medina, where he had a limited amount of armed men to support him, that he received this "revelation" and began to use violence to further his desires. Islamic history shows that as Muslims grew in power their forms of violence changed from criminal terrorism to outright warfare.

but anyways when u walk the streets of cincinati i am sure u are not worried about a christian with a backpack full of esplovies on the bus probly if anybody has one its a muslms, dont you agree?

i am happy to finaly meet a hindu! hooray!! is it true that when you go to the toilet you do not wipe, thats what my mom said.

[detrevni]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

Yes, I understand the fate they face should they not see the light, I just see no reason to call the religion a terrorist one, worshiping demonic, unclean entities is surely worthy of hell. Yet in all other ways they seem to my eyes to be moral and upstanding, they also listen respectfully when I plead with them to convert, and though they have not bent yet, I see the cracks in their false faith beginning to form.
Being wrong in one thing, having one false set of beliefs as a result of a culture devoid of Christ is no reason to assume they are terrorists.

[ExGay Alex]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

Personally, I agree with Midge. When was the last time a Christian exploded a suicide bomb or flew an airplane full of innocent passengers into a building? Terrorism is built into Islam.

Moreover, Islam makes you gay. They view the female form as so distasteful that they cover them up. Even during sexual congress, they approach their females from the back and pretend they are sodomizing their nephews.

But even worse, its a false religion for the following reasons:

1. According to Muslims, the Koran is considered the inerrant, holy scripture that comes directly as a revelation from Allah. However, there have been many examples of factual errors and inconsistencies throughout the book. Thus, either the Koran did not really come from Allah, since Allah cannot be in error or think inconsistently. Or Allah produced the Koran but he is not perfect. Either way, a major tenet of the Islamic faith is disproved; it is a false religion.

2. The Islamic scriptures teach that Jesus never actually died on the cross. He is alleged to have departed from the cross before fully expiring. This is simply historically inaccurate, however, as essentially no New Testament historian (even the most radically anti-Christian) believes Jesus survived crucifixion.

3. Muslims hold that God can have no Son and no equal, as Christians allege in their doctrine of the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God). But there exists ample evidence that Jesus of Nazareth was in fact the Son of God, just as He taught. Moreover, Jesus testified to the reality and the divinity of the Holy Spirit.

4. The Islamic deity commands unjust and unholy wars. He is thus not morally perfect and is unworthy of worship. But any deity that is unfit for worship cannot be the greatest conceivable being, i.e., God.

5. There are good reasons to believe that the Bible is divinely inspired. Evidences include fulfilled prophecies, the remarkable coherence of the text despite its myriad authors and stories and time frames. The Bible's accuracy has been substantiated greatly by modern archaelogy and classical historical studies. The Bible contains no proven factual errors or contradictions (unlike the Koran) and is attested to as God's Word by Jesus Christ,whom we have good reason to believe was divine Himself. Since the Bible is God's Word and it contradicts the Koran, we can be sure that the Koran is not divinely inspired. Islam is inaccurate in this regard and thus demonstrably false.

[detrevni]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

i never seen a christian suicide bomber, i think the soldiers in irak would agree that all of the IUDs planted by the terrorissts next to the roads are all mulsims, it is pretty sad really, pastor pickle in my church wrote a article about muslms in the chruch newletter and it there he sayd:

In Mecca, where Muhammad was weak, he attacked no one. He only preached his religion and insulted the Meccan's religions. But it was just prior to his leaving for Medina, where he had a limited amount of armed men to support him, that he received this "revelation" and began to use violence to further his desires. Islamic history shows that as Muslims grew in power their forms of violence changed from criminal terrorism to outright warfare.

but anyways when u walk the streets of cincinati i am sure u are not worried about a christian with a backpack full of esplovies on the bus probly if anybody has one its a muslms, dont you agree?

i am happy to finaly meet a hindu! hooray!! is it true that when you go to the toilet you do not wipe, thats what my mom said.

First off, I am not a Hindu, I am a happy follower of Christ, secondly, only an Untouchable would be so crude as to no clean themselves after defecation.

Suicide bombing is not how Islamic extremist would like to do things I assure you, if the Muslim nations of the world had an air force anything near the strength of the United Stated they would have used bombs, not planes, to destroy the WTC. Suicide bombing is out of desperation, it is the only resource they have available.

As to the warfare of Muhammad and his followers, yes, he used warfare to claim land and resources just as the young church did, both groups feeling that they had divine right. I now realize that Muhammad or his decedents had no such right, but though once again flawed in his faith and damned to hell, he treated the prisoners of war and conquered people with a great deal more kindness then some ancient rulers had, aside from some attempt at conversion he allowed them to live their lives mostly unchanged.

[detrevni]

Re: Greetings fellow lovers of Jesus Christ and God above!

Personally, I agree with Midge. When was the last time a Christian exploded a suicide bomb or flew an airplane full of innocent passengers into a building? Terrorism is built into Islam.

Once again, a matter of scarcity as I said before.[B]
Moreover, Islam makes you gay. They view the female form as so distasteful that they cover them up. Even during sexual congress, they approach their females from the back and pretend they are sodomizing their nephews.
Only the most conservative of followers still do this, or in corrupt theocracies, in which the covering is used more as a form of population control than anything. Most Islamis people of the recent generations who live outside of such countries live as free as any other person by way of dress.
But even worse, its a false religion for the following reasons:

1. According to Muslims, the Koran is considered the inerrant, holy scripture that comes directly as a revelation from Allah. However, there have been many examples of factual errors and inconsistencies throughout the book. Thus, either the Koran did not really come from Allah, since Allah cannot be in error or think inconsistently. Or Allah produced the Koran but he is not perfect. Either way, a major tenet of the Islamic faith is disproved; it is a false religion.

The I willingly accept, the book does contain many falsities
2. The Islamic scriptures teach that Jesus never actually died on the cross. He is alleged to have departed from the cross before fully expiring. This is simply historically inaccurate, however, as essentially no New Testament historian (even the most radically anti-Christian) believes Jesus survived crucifixion.
True, likely this falsehood arose from a disbeliever believing that Jesus was seen after his resurrection, yet refused to accept his divinity, conjuring this falsehood to rectify the situation in his mind.
3. Muslims hold that God can have no Son and no equal, as Christians allege in their doctrine of the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God). But there exists ample evidence that Jesus of Nazareth was in fact the Son of God, just as He taught. Moreover, Jesus testified to the reality and the divinity of the Holy Spirit.
Again, I accept this.
4. The Islamic deity commands unjust and unholy wars. He is thus not morally perfect and is unworthy of worship. But any deity that is unfit for worship cannot be the greatest conceivable being, i.e., God.
The Islamic deity does not exist. The Islamic leaders claim to hear the divine and war because of it. Many a dictator has claimed divine mandate from a false god, that does not reflect overly much on the people.
5. There are good reasons to believe that the Bible is divinely inspired. Evidences include fulfilled prophecies, the remarkable coherence of the text despite its myriad authors and stories and time frames. The Bible's accuracy has been substantiated greatly by modern archaelogy and classical historical studies. The Bible contains no proven factual errors or contradictions (unlike the Koran) and is attested to as God's Word by Jesus Christ,whom we have good reason to believe was divine Himself. Since the Bible is God's Word and it contradicts the Koran, we can be sure that the Koran is not divinely inspired. Islam is inaccurate in this regard and thus demonstrably false.

I accept the the bible is divinely inspired by God himself, yet I also know that language has changed greatly over time. I feel that certain flaws within our interpretation of language has led to improper translation of scripture, such as the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter. 1 Kings 7:23 poses that it is three, for instance.