[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello.

My name is Bryan. I am 17 years old, and an asexual -not attracted to any sex. I believe all people were born equal, and I am not here to argue for or against that.

However; I do have one question. Satan is able to deceive us as he did with Adam and Eve, correct? Then prove to me that the Bible is not a book of Satan's words, and meant to deceive us? I am not here to troll, only to learn. I feel this point is impossible to prove either way, as anybody can write a book.

Thanks for reading my post, and thanks to anyone who replies.

That was the worst introduction ever.

This isn't question and answer time, boy. Tell us about yourself. What church do you attend? Which branch of the Military are you planning to enlist in when you turn 18?

[Little Donkey]

Re: Hello.

My lovely, now deceased girlfriend were frequent Churchgoers, I can't think of any weekend we didn't go to Church other than one day when the church was closed due to weather. Anyway, we were ready to marry as soon as the time came. I had my friends at school, I had my friends at Church; things were going great, but it went downhill fast as can be. I was devastated with the outcome, and have secluded myself to my house.

Hi Boodude. Welcome to the board! It's sad what happened in your life. I can only imagine how bad you must feel that God took your girlfriend. Can you think of any reason why He would take her so soon? Perhaps the two of you had fornicated? Be honest now. Or could it be, maybe she was fornicating behind your back? It certainly would help you if you could understand why the filthy harlot got punished so severely. Undoubtedly she has gone straight to hell and is screaming in agony from being coated in Satan's white hot lava, right this instant. And for all eternity. Surely this is a valuable 2nd chance for you to get right with Jesus instead of denying His Love. Grasp it, I urge you.

[Jedediah]

Re: Hello.

The point is, I gave up on everything, and changed rapidly as a person.

You may have given up on everything, but Jesus hasn't given up on you. Do you think it happenstance that you are here? No. You are here because Jesus brought you here.

[boodude186]

Re: Hello.

How did you find out about Satan?

The same place that I found out about God. They were both in the Bible, but we're following the Bibles word, which may have actually been Satan's word, Satan deceived people into believing that they were writing God's word. Satan may have twisted things around. But as I said, it is impossible to prove either way.

[boodude186]

Re: Hello.

You're only seventeen, you're too young to have a relationship right now with anyone except Jesus.

Sir, I have a relationship with God, not Jesus. Please note that any good that I was, up until three years ago, a devout Christian, now I am a sceptic. I've had too much trouble with people, and I stay to myself now. You will never see me communicating to another person by word of mouth outside of work or school, Church was no different.

My lovely, now deceased girlfriend were frequent Churchgoers, I can't think of any weekend we didn't go to Church other than one day when the church was closed due to weather. Anyway, we were ready to marry as soon as the time came. I had my friends at school, I had my friends at Church; things were going great, but it went downhill fast as can be. I was devastated with the outcome, and have secluded myself to my house.

The point is, I gave up on everything, and changed rapidly as a person. I still love God, but I'm quite weary of things. I have been in love with a girl, but it wont happen again.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello.

The people that wrote the book, how can we be sure they weren't deceived by Satan? There are many holy books, some more prominent than others, why is the Bible the right book, and the rest aren't truly Gods word? Or one of the others?

How did you find out about Satan?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hello.

You're only seventeen, you're too young to have a relationship right now with anyone except Jesus.

And it's a relationship he must have if he is to escape Hell.

[Nobar King]

Re: Hello.

You're only seventeen, you're too young to have a relationship right now with anyone except Jesus.

[boodude186]

Re: Hello.

Brother Harold, I can well assure you that I will not, nor will I ever be attracted to males. I have been in relationships, but my last one proved futile; a relationship will never really work with me and another person.

[boodude186]

Re: Hello.

Yes, anybody can write a book. However, not everyone who writes a book does so as moved by the Holy Spirit.

The people that wrote the book, how can we be sure they weren't deceived by Satan? There are many holy books, some more prominent than others, why is the Bible the right book, and the rest aren't truly Gods word? Or one of the others?

[Jedediah]

Re: Hello.

Well, that's derived from the Bible. That would be a very good way for Satan to deceive people. Just a thought.

Not possible. God promised to preserve His Word for us. If it's in the Bible, you can bank on it.

Psalm 12:6-7
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

[Jedediah]

Re: Hello.

My name is Bryan. I am 17 years old, and an asexual -not attracted to any sex. I believe all people were born equal, and I am not here to argue for or against that.

Welcome, young man. It doesn't really matter whether or not you are attracted to women. Frankly, as an Ex-Gay(c), I am not particularly aroused by my wife. I have to put on some headphones and listen to one of my MP3s of Ronald Reagan speeches in order to achieve arousal. That does not, however, excuse me from siring sons upon my wife, as commanded by Scripture.

Genesis 9:7
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

As for your assertion that all people are born equal, can you back that up with Holy Scripture? If you actually read the Holy Bible (KJV1611) instead of just believing what people say about it, I think you will find that God created two types of people - those who will join Him in Heaven for all eternity, singing praise songs (the Elect) and those who He has preordained to eternal torments in the lake of fire which has been prepared for satan and his demons.

John 6:64-65
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Romans 8:29-30
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

Romans 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

II Thessalonians 2:11-13
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

However; I do have one question. Satan is able to deceive us as he did with Adam and Eve, correct? Then prove to me that the Bible is not a book of Satan's words, and meant to deceive us? I am not here to troll, only to learn. I feel this point is impossible to prove either way, as anybody can write a book.

Yes, anybody can write a book. However, not everyone who writes a book does so as moved by the Holy Spirit.

II Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

II Peter 1:21
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

There are also numerous examples of prophets giving firsthand testimony that God told them what to write. For example:

Habakkuk 2:2
And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.

Jeremiah 36:2
Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.

As you grow in your personal relationship with Jesus Christ and familiarity with His Word, having your discernment guided by the Holy Spirit rather than your own vain sense of morality or right-and-wrong, you will come to realize that it is a contradiction in terms to be "deceived" by the Word that God left for us. In fact, it is only by paying attention to sources outside the Bible that we fall into deception.

II Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Thanks for reading my post, and thanks to anyone who replies.

You certainly are a well-mannered young man. I encourage you to read more posts on our Godly forum. When you are ready to begin your personal relationship with Jesus Christ, we will be here to support you.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Hello.

Well, that's derived from the Bible. That would be a very good way for Satan to deceive people. Just a thought.

Correct, but only if God is not omnipresent and omnipotent. He is. Satan is not. God would not allow anyone to change one bit of His Word. Jesus warns us again at the end of the Holy Bible what will happen to miscreants that attempt to do so:

Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"

"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

My friend, let's stop fooling around and get down to brass tacks. You are looking for an excuse to continue in a life of sin and filthy sexual perversion. "Asexuality" is really just a fancy term for fornication with one's self. It is but a small step then to then choose to become homosexual. A decision I also made early in life that led to nothing but misery and shame.

But Jesus forgave me when I got on me knees for Him rather than yet another strange man. Will you also let Jesus Christ heal you and erase the nasty stain on your corrupt soul this day? Find real peace and happiness through the Good News of the Gospel?

You are in our prayers.

In Christ

[ShelbyT]

Re: Hello.

Well, that's derived from the Bible. That would be a very good way for Satan to deceive people. Just a thought.

If Satan is attempting to deceive in writing that part, he also lied in writing Genesis. If Genesis is a lie there's no need to believe the Bible as a cohesive whole, therefore Satan is not real, meaning he couldn't have wrote the Bible. Believing Satan wrote the Bible creates a huge paradox.

[boodude186]

Re: Hello.

Hello young man. Well, God tells us in His Word:

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

I hope this helps.

In Christ

Well, that's derived from the Bible. That would be a very good way for Satan to deceive people. Just a thought.