[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: hello! I'm a Vegetarian, Emo Hippy that just won't listen!

so you'll just mindlessly do what some mysterious force says. how you know for sure it's god and not the other guy? and if you're hearing voices, i worry for you're mental well being.
and no i wouldnt because i have a heart. plus wouldnt that be a paradox, if i'm shown all the bad things the baby is going to do, but then i kill it, then technically that reality would cease to exist and i would not know what the baby was going to do, all i would know is that i killed it and would have to live with the guilt for the rest of my life.
i've been watching doctor who my whole life. i know how that all works.

So, you base your life choices on a crappy British Sci-fi show instead of the Bible? Dear God, the Emo music has rotted your brain girl. OK, let's say, just for giggles, that Dr. Who, that horrible MRC singer person, Jesus, and a Baptist Pastor convinced you that the only way to save the world was to stomp an evil Hell-spawn baby to death, are you telling me you'd refuse?

[Brinlynn]

Re: hello! I'm a Vegetarian, Emo Hippy that just won't listen!

so you'll just mindlessly do what some mysterious force says. how you know for sure it's god and not the other guy? and if you're hearing voices, i worry for you're mental well being.
and no i wouldnt because i have a heart. plus wouldnt that be a paradox, if i'm shown all the bad things the baby is going to do, but then i kill it, then technically that reality would cease to exist and i would not know what the baby was going to do, all i would know is that i killed it and would have to live with the guilt for the rest of my life.
i've been watching doctor who my whole life. i know how that all works.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: hello!

ok look, if you want to argue about dairy cows, talk to my dad, he knows everything there is to know about it. i dont take much of an interest in it.
and my great grandma made it for me, how could i have refused it? she didnt know i was a vegetarian and she was so happy and stuff that i was even there. i mean she's my grandma, i can't say no to her.
and im telling you now, if gerard way, my hero, the man i admire most told me to kill a baby, i wouldnt. it's a baby. innocent until proven guilty.

So if it was an evil baby, and somebody proved that to you, how would you kill it?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: hello!

so you'll just go around killing babies?

Only if God orders it. I'll do anything God says, and you will too or else you'll burn.

wow, you sound like a real christian there.

Why thank you. That's the nicest thing you've ever said.

[Brinlynn]

Re: hello!

A Jersey cow is as "natural" as a Cornish cross.

They are bred to produce far more milk than normal. You force them to continue producing milk when they have no calves. And their milk is so rich that it would kill their calves.

Not natural at all, dearie. How do you answer that?

There is also nothing natural about keeping them in bondage to serve your dietary needs. How do you answer that?



Yes, I know someone with a dairy farm. They put the dead cows into the compost pile. They rot pretty fast. In summer, sometimes they blow up.


So you will compromise on your principles in order to impress others with your good manners.

I guess saving "innocent animals" is less important than people thinking you're a polite girl.

Weak as water.


What part of "if God wants to kill them" do you not comprehend?

Yes, he sounds like a "real Christian", because a real Christian obeys God's Commands, like it or not!

ok look, if you want to argue about dairy cows, talk to my dad, he knows everything there is to know about it. i dont take much of an interest in it.
and my great grandma made it for me, how could i have refused it? she didnt know i was a vegetarian and she was so happy and stuff that i was even there. i mean she's my grandma, i can't say no to her.
and im telling you now, if gerard way, my hero, the man i admire most told me to kill a baby, i wouldnt. it's a baby. innocent until proven guilty.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: hello!

they're bred all natural, the milk is natural, everything.

A Jersey cow is as "natural" as a Cornish cross.

They are bred to produce far more milk than normal. You force them to continue producing milk when they have no calves. And their milk is so rich that it would kill their calves.

Not natural at all, dearie. How do you answer that?

There is also nothing natural about keeping them in bondage to serve your dietary needs. How do you answer that?

when the cows are old, we put them in a separate pasture and basically they get pampered and when they die, we have to either bury them or cremate them.

Yes, I know someone with a dairy farm. They put the dead cows into the compost pile. They rot pretty fast. In summer, sometimes they blow up.

they gave me fresh caught salmon and since i was a guest there i felt it was only polite to eat it and that was actually good. asides from that, ew.

So you will compromise on your principles in order to impress others with your good manners.

I guess saving "innocent animals" is less important than people thinking you're a polite girl.

Weak as water.

so you'll just go around killing babies? wow, you sound like a real christian there.

What part of "if God wants to kill them" do you not comprehend?

Yes, he sounds like a "real Christian", because a real Christian obeys God's Commands, like it or not!

[Brinlynn]

Re: hello!

Those babies aren't innocent if God wants to kill them. He knows what's best, not you, witch.

so you'll just go around killing babies? wow, you sound like a real christian there.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: hello!

i've only read what i've been asked to read in religion class. i read part of the old testament, scared the crap out of me. i mean what kind of God kills innocent babies?? and asks someone to kill his son then right before the guys about to goes "oh surprise! i was just testing you!" that's more of a very cruel joke to me.

Those babies aren't innocent if God wants to kill them. He knows what's best, not you, witch.

Isaiah 55:8-9: For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

[Brinlynn]

Re: hello!

they're bred all natural, the milk is natural, everything. we mostly sell the milk at farmers markets. when the cows are old, we put them in a separate pasture and basically they get pampered and when they die, we have to either bury them or cremate them. we only have about 20 cows and we have 3 that are used for breeding.
and i dont like the production, or the taste of meat. the only meat i've ever had that i liked was in Newfoundland, they gave me fresh caught salmon and since i was a guest there i felt it was only polite to eat it and that was actually good. asides from that, ew.

and the MCRmy is NOT a terrorist organization, it's quite the opposite actually. go look it up, see what we're all about. www.imnotokay.net is a pretty good site.

[Didymus Much]

Re: hello!

...i live on a farm, we have dairy cows...

And what happens when they get old? Do you send them off to the "Old Cow's Home" to live out their days in peace, or the glue factory?

...we dont inject our cows with anything except the mandatory vaccines...

Which you are required to by law (thankfully) so that your customers don't get sick and die.

...and i wish i could get away from all the oil and stuff, but the only way i can change that is by moving out in the woods and living on my own...

Where you'd displace an "innocent" animal from their habitat, eat some "innocent" animal's food so that it starves, and still ruthlessly slaughter something (plant or animal) so you don't freeze.

...but i can stop eating meat. plus, i find that it tastes gross. i dont like the texture, the taste, the look, anything. people can eat meat all they want, just keep it away from me.

Wait, didn't you just say "have you ever watched food inc.? because once you do, you will never eat meat again. it's so gross."? Is it the production of the food that you don't like or the taste, texture, etc.?

First sign of a very weak argument is that it keeps changing.

[Brother_Percy]

Re: hello!

we're only three members of the MCRmy, theres millions out there.

Sounds like some sort of terrorist organisation.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: hello!

im not scared of death. no really, im honestly not. it's just another part of life, like you said.
i live on a farm, we have dairy cows. they're treated pretty good, it's a high tech farm with automatic milkers and stuff. we dont inject our cows with anything except the mandatory vaccines.
and i wish i could get away from all the oil and stuff, but the only way i can change that is by moving out in the woods and living on my own. but i can stop eating meat. plus, i find that it tastes gross. i dont like the texture, the taste, the look, anything. people can eat meat all they want, just keep it away from me.

So you're OK with enslaving cows and artificially forcing them to continue producing milk even though they're not bearing calves, and you're OK with them being bred to produce so much milk that is so rich that it'd actually kill their calves from diarrhea, but it's cruel to eat them.

Keeping them in bondage to serve your dietary needs is fine, though.

Interesting.

[Brinlynn]

Re: hello!

As the Captain mentioned, birth is gross. So is almost every biological process, including the one that started your existence (not birth - the one before that). Have you ever really taken a good look at genitalia, or a non-extremely attractive couple going at it? Don't ask your boy/girlfriend if your box is ugly (they will lie to you and say "oh nooooo..."). If we didn't have such a drive to copulate (and it didn't feel so freaking amazing), we would have died out long ago.

The only thing uglier than life is death, which is itself part of life. "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust...". The only reason you can even feel the way you do is your fortune for being born where you were, and when you were. Anywhere or anytime else, you'd not have the luxury of the choice. Odds are you would be raised on a farm, where death is an everyday occurrence. The food you ate didn't come on a polystyrene tray, wrapped in cellophane, from the grocery store. It came from the barn, where it had been strung up by the ankles and had it's throat sliced, the guts allowed to spill out on the ground to be eaten by the pig or dog that would be next week's dinner.

You're just afraid of life, death, and the whole stinking "gross" mess that goes along with both of them. You've allowed others to convince you that somehow death is evil, and that by disassociating yourself from it, you make yourself a "better person".

You might not even wear leather, even though it's a byproduct. You prefer plastic shoes, which are made from oil, even though innocent animals were forced off their habitat (and died) to make way for the drills, rigs, pumping station, pipeline, refinery, processing plant, etc.

Face it, the only way for you to completely remove yourself from the killing of "innocent" animals is to kill yourself. Gonna do that?

im not scared of death. no really, im honestly not. it's just another part of life, like you said.
i live on a farm, we have dairy cows. they're treated pretty good, it's a high tech farm with automatic milkers and stuff. we dont inject our cows with anything except the mandatory vaccines.
and i wish i could get away from all the oil and stuff, but the only way i can change that is by moving out in the woods and living on my own. but i can stop eating meat. plus, i find that it tastes gross. i dont like the texture, the taste, the look, anything. people can eat meat all they want, just keep it away from me.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: hello!

once again, watch food inc. how do you think you get chicken breasts so big? i mean they're naturally not that big.

Not with steroids, dear. That's illegal, as I just stated. I even gave you an FDA statement on the matter.

Some processors do inject them with water to make them larger (AFTER butchering, not while alive), but generally speaking, their size is the result of selective breeding. Some types of chickens are bred to do nothing but eat. The Cornish cross (or Cornish-Rock) is the most popular of these.

Broilers are chickens raised specifically for meat production. Modern commercial broilers, for example, Cornish crosses or Cornish-Rocks, are specially bred for large scale, efficient meat production and grow much faster than egg laying hens or traditional dual purpose breeds. They are noted for having very fast growth rates, a high feed conversion ratio, and low levels of activity. Broilers often reach a harvest weight of 4-5 pounds dressed in only five weeks,[1] although more slow growing free-range and organic strains reach slaughter weight at 12-16 weeks of age. Typical broilers have white feathers and yellowish skin. This cross is also favorable for meat production because it lacks the typical "hair" which many breeds have that necessitates singeing after plucking.

and humans dont need meat. we can survive without it. i am.

Humans in the middle ages, and even up until the early 19th century, were far smaller in stature than modern Western humans. Know why? Poor nutrition.

What happened in the mid 19th century? Consumption of meat became affordable, thanks to that evil capitalism you no doubt hate. Most people began consuming animal protein, which is the most easily digested protein for the human body.

Want your kids to be stunted? Go back to a grain-based diet. Enjoy.

And by the way, all that soy contains phytoestrogen, which is a plant hormone indistinguishable to the human body from the female sex hormone estrogen. It causes girls to get their period earlier, and feminizes boys.

But I guess that's all fine with you. And of course soy allergy (increasingly common), and soy intolerance (think searing gas pains and horrid flatulence and diarrhea, also increasingly common).

think of it, you're just a cow doing what cows do, then next thing you know you're put on a truck and shipped off where your throat is slit for no reason. how you like that if i did that to you?

Think of it, you're a soybean, doing what soybeans do, trying to reproduce, then next thing you know you're being whacked with a "combine", and then pulverized and made into tofu. How would you like it if I did that to you?


AAAAAGGHHHH!! It's CHOPPING UP MY BODY AND THROWING MY SEEDS IN A BIN!

Yep, plants have feelings and respond to environmental stimuli including light, sound, pain, and more.

You might not even wear leather, even though it's a byproduct. You prefer plastic shoes, which are made from oil, even though innocent animals were forced off their habitat (and died) to make way for the drills, rigs, pumping station, pipeline, refinery, processing plant, etc.

Let's not forget that oil comes from the remains of dead animals and plants, dinosaurs and such that were buried in the sediments during the Flood.

[Didymus Much]

Re: hello!

i do actually, but i just don't see what gives me the right to take an animals life. plus have you ever watched food inc.? because once you do, you will never eat meat again. it's so gross.

As the Captain mentioned, birth is gross. So is almost every biological process, including the one that started your existence (not birth - the one before that). Have you ever really taken a good look at genitalia, or a non-extremely attractive couple going at it? Don't ask your boy/girlfriend if your box is ugly (they will lie to you and say "oh nooooo..."). If we didn't have such a drive to copulate (and it didn't feel so freaking amazing), we would have died out long ago.

The only thing uglier than life is death, which is itself part of life. "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust...". The only reason you can even feel the way you do is your fortune for being born where you were, and when you were. Anywhere or anytime else, you'd not have the luxury of the choice. Odds are you would be raised on a farm, where death is an everyday occurrence. The food you ate didn't come on a polystyrene tray, wrapped in cellophane, from the grocery store. It came from the barn, where it had been strung up by the ankles and had it's throat sliced, the guts allowed to spill out on the ground to be eaten by the pig or dog that would be next week's dinner.

You're just afraid of life, death, and the whole stinking "gross" mess that goes along with both of them. You've allowed others to convince you that somehow death is evil, and that by disassociating yourself from it, you make yourself a "better person".

You might not even wear leather, even though it's a byproduct. You prefer plastic shoes, which are made from oil, even though innocent animals were forced off their habitat (and died) to make way for the drills, rigs, pumping station, pipeline, refinery, processing plant, etc.

Face it, the only way for you to completely remove yourself from the killing of "innocent" animals is to kill yourself. Gonna do that?