Why must I hate myself?

[Miranda 95]

Hello, My name is Randi, and I am a young woman from New York...I've been struggling with myself lately. My whole life I have felt an attraction to people of the same sex, and now I think I may be in love...I know that people traditionally believe this is forbidden by the bible, but I'm not so sure...Can people who love Jesus, like myself, really justify hatred towards me because of whom I love? Can they do so when several times in the bible it says not to hate someone, but to love? In Romans 13:8 it states "Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law."
In Song of Solomon 8:6-7 it says "Many waters cannot quench love, neither can floods drown it." So if I feel love for another woman, can my prayers and pleading to God really stop this love?
Please help me understand why people like you would hate me, and why my love for Jesus has forced me to hate myself.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

You hate yourself because you know what you're doing is wrong and makes Jesus sick. It's nothing but perversion and if you're looking for some limp-wristed, salad-bar Christians to give you excuses to be a queer, you've come to the wrong place.

What church do you attend? I'd like to call your pastor and chew him out.

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[James Hutchins]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Friend, we do not hate you. God hates you.
Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

I imagine you come across as a nice person. But because of your choice to go against what He expects in return for the gift of life and the slim chance at going to Heaven, you will be damned and can absolutely expect an enternity of gnashing teeth and melting flesh as Satan slowly pulls the meat from your bones. Forever.
Have you considered becoming an Ex-Gay(tm)?

[Miranda 95]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Friend, we do not hate you. God hates you.
Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

I imagine you come across as a nice person. But because of your choice to go against what He expects in return for the gift of life and the slim chance at going to Heaven, you will be damned and can absolutely expect an enternity of gnashing teeth and melting flesh as Satan slowly pulls the meat from your bones. Forever.
Have you considered becoming an Ex-Gay™?

Please, enlighten me on this process of "becoming an Ex-Gay™"? I'm genuinely interested on how to stop my immoral feelings and begin towards the path to forgiveness.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Please, enlighten me on this process of "becoming an Ex-Gay™"? I'm genuinely interested on how to stop my immoral feelings and begin towards the path to forgiveness.

It involves deep Prayer and even deeper Tithing.

Now please answer the questions I put to you.

[Miranda 95]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

It involves deep Prayer and even deeper Tithing.

Now please answer the questions I put to you.

As to what church I currently attend, I am working for the Peace Corps, teaching English to children in India...I attend a small church of God here for Americans.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

As to what church I currently attend, I am working for the Peace Corps, teaching English to children in India...I attend a small church of God here for Americans.

Really Miranda? I have you in North America. And the Peace Corps doesn't take 17 year olds.

Want to try again? Jesus hates a liar.

[Miranda 95]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Really Miranda? I have you in North America. And the Peace Corps doesn't take 17 year olds.

Want to try again? Jesus hates a liar.

Excuse me? I'm not seventeen, for one, I'm not sure where you get your information...I was born in September of 1985, so I'm twenty-six. And while I reside in North America, I'm in my thirteenth month of my Peace Corps term. So you may want to try your "investigative skills" again.

[Miranda 95]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Fine...you want the truth? I am not seventeen, so that part was true...However, I am in New York, but I am leaving to go to India soon, to teach children English, out of the goodness of my heart...I will be payed around $7,000 dollars for the 24 months I am there, making my salary right around 3,500 dollars, so I'm definitely not in it for the money. I will NOT however be attending a church there, or anywhere for that matter. I DO have a sexual attraction to females, and that is who I am, and not going to change. I am an atheist, and I wanted a genuine explanation for why you would hate those such as me. I do not hate religion, I enjoy learning about all religions, including yours. I respect your beliefs as legitimate, and I am here to make a final plea of sorts to you, to attempt to do the same. I believe the earth is round and rotates around the sun. I believe ALL men AND women are created equal, even those who are not heterosexual, white Christians. I believe that the hatred and abuse of any soul is wrong. These are my beliefs. I may be wrong, but I don't care.
You may hate me if you please, but I will not hate you, because in the end we will know who is the better person.
I apologize for wasting your time and "God's precious bandwidth".

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Excuse me? I'm not seventeen, for one, I'm not sure where you get your information...I was born in September of 1985, so I'm twenty-six. And while I reside in North America, I'm in my thirteenth month of my Peace Corps term. So you may want to try your "investigative skills" again.

Exploding with pent-up rage at the good Pastor will not make you feel better. You are confused and angry and lashing out. You can't decide if you need to wear a dress on a date with a nice fellow or put on a flannel and hang out with the dudes at Fennigans. We understand. But the only way to alleviate the pressure and inner-conflict of being a bush-hunter is to do the will of God.

This forum is filled with resources to help. But as of now, begin reading the KJV Bible in the Old Testament and finish through the New and you will see God's position on the matter and get a taste of his utter contempt for the gay deathstyle...

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." (Jude 7)

Knowing that God hates you because you are who you are should only make you hate yourself more.

"I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:3)

Here's wishing for the best,

Pastor Ed

[Miranda 95]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Oh, and one more thing...I plan on sending an absentee ballot back home to vote...for Barack Obama, because I am about as left-wing liberal as you can get. Tell me I'm going to Hell if you please, it does not bother me, because I do not believe in it. So know that if you do so, you are only doing so to sooth your own mind.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Oh, and one more thing...I plan on sending an absentee ballot back home to vote...for Barack Obama, because I am about as left-wing liberal as you can get. Tell me I'm going to Hell if you please, it does not bother me, because I do not believe in it. So know that if you do so, you are only doing so to sooth your own mind.

In New York?

That hellhole is going to 0bama anyway. Thank God it's not Wisconsin or Ohio.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Oh, and one more thing...I plan on sending an absentee ballot back home to vote...for Barack Obama, because I am about as left-wing liberal as you can get. Tell me I'm going to Hell if you please, it does not bother me, because I do not believe in it. So know that if you do so, you are only doing so to sooth your own mind.

Like all atheists, you reveal yourself to be a liar, a cheat, a pervert and about as unpatriotic as possible. In addition, you're willing to vote for a queer-lover, muslim racemixing communist as president. So far nothing you say has shocked any of us.

Your kind was foretold in the Holy Bible.

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

You won't think you're so clever once Jesus sends you to hell, where satan will use you as his favorite party ewe.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Oh no. Now the dykes are voting for Obama? That changes everything.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Why must I hate myself?

Fine...you want the truth? I am not seventeen, so that part was true...However, I am in New York, but I am leaving to go to India soon, to teach children English, out of the goodness of my heart...

So you're not in India, you're not teaching children, you don't go to church there, there's no "crisis of conscience", etc.

Do you always lie to people you've just met? Do you expect anyone to trust you after that? How can you say you respect ANYTHING when the first words out of your mouth are lies, lies, and more lies?

I'm atheist, and I've been trying to convince the people here that not all atheists are hate-filled liars. So thanks for the help. NOT.