[Jack O'fagan]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

I never claimed to know more than him. Nor will I ever. Jesus said it was an abomonation. That just means non-traditional.

And He said they should be killed for being non traditional?

YIC

Jack

[Nessa1239]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

Then why are you denying so much of what He said in the Bible?





Oh, yeah, that's just "non-traditional".

That would be today's definition of the word abomonation. The bible wasn't even supposed to be translated from Hebrew..
Homosexuality is abomination. The Christian Right says so all the time, and non-religious LGBT activists say it too, to relegate religion to humanity’s dustheap. After all, isn’t that what it says in the Bible?

No—and progressive religionists should not use the word. It’s a mistranslation and a misconception, doing harm to LGBT people and religious people alike.

The word “abomination” is found, of course, in the King James translation of Leviticus 18:22, a translation which reads, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.” Yet this is a thoroughly misleading rendition of the word toevah, which, while we may not know exactly what it means, definitely does not mean “abomination.” An “abomination” conjures up images of things which should not exist on the face of the earth: three-legged babies, oceans choked with oil, or Cheez-Whiz. And indeed, this is how many religious people regard gays and lesbians. It’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Homosexuality is unnatural, a perversion, a disease, an abomination.

Yet a close reading of the term toevah suggests an entirely different meaning: something permitted to one group, and forbidden to another. Though there is (probably) no etymological relationship, toevah means taboo.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

Deuteronomy 12:31

Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

God hates abominations,


YIC

Jack

[Nessa1239]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

Looks like you should have read on.

Matthew 7:23-27
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Follow Jesus's commands or you're doomed.

Matthew 13:41-43
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

I'm doomed then, sir. I'd rather rot in hell than deal with bigots. I'll even light the match myself that sets me ablaze.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

You are not lesbo trash. I myself am bisexual, and I believe in God and go to church. Most of my family knows and they are ok with it. But if you like women, it doesn't mean you are trash. Jesus preached love, and that's what I live by.

But you don't show love by allowing your children to be exposed to abomination:

LEVITICUS 18:22

that goes for girls too

ROMANS 1:26

Now if someone wants to believe something else and worship idols [catholics] or cows [hindus] or the moon [mohammedans] that is their choice. They are clearly not worshipping God because He explicitly prohibits such activities. All non-Christians such as catholics or zoroastrians will go to HELL FOREVER not because I decide that but because God tells us that's the way it is.

There is obviously no such thing as a homosexual Christian because in choosing to be a sex pervert, the pervert REJECTS Jesus REJECTS God's love and REJECTS salvation. The pervert embraces abomination, abomination as defined by God it's that simple.


Here is the rest of that passage from Romans:

ROMANS 1:24-32

Here are the salient facts as stated BY GOD.
Disagree with Him if you want to but don't claim He says something different; .this .is .what .He .says:

from verse 24 to dishonour their own bodies
from verse 26 vile affections
from verse 26 women did change the natural use
from verse 26 against nature
from verse 27 likewise also the men
from verse 27 burned in their lust one toward another
from verse 27 men with men working that which is unseemly
from verse 28 did not like to retain God in their knowledge
from verse 28 a reprobate mind
from verse 29 filled with all unrighteousness
from verse 30 haters of God
from verse 32 worthy of death

That is the love Jesus preached, consistent throughout time and current today. Because the consequences are so severe when people abandon God and start worshipping their own genitals Jesus has preserved His teaching through the apostle Paul and God has presented His Just Law in such a way that there can be no doubt what He is saying. Christians accept His Perfect Love. If it were the same as imperfect human emotion there would be no need for the ministry of Jesus to teach us. But the two are not the same are they.

Without Him we would be wretched indeed!

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

That would be today's definition of the word abomonation. The bible wasn't even supposed to be translated from Hebrew..
Homosexuality is abomination. The Christian Right says so all the time, and non-religious LGBT activists say it too, to relegate religion to humanity’s dustheap. After all, isn’t that what it says in the Bible?

No—and progressive religionists should not use the word. It’s a mistranslation and a misconception, doing harm to LGBT people and religious people alike.

The word “abomination” is found, of course, in the King James translation of Leviticus 18:22, a translation which reads, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.” Yet this is a thoroughly misleading rendition of the word toevah, which, while we may not know exactly what it means, definitely does not mean “abomination.” An “abomination” conjures up images of things which should not exist on the face of the earth: three-legged babies, oceans choked with oil, or Cheez-Whiz. And indeed, this is how many religious people regard gays and lesbians. It’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Homosexuality is unnatural, a perversion, a disease, an abomination.

Yet a close reading of the term toevah suggests an entirely different meaning: something permitted to one group, and forbidden to another. Though there is (probably) no etymological relationship, toevah means taboo.

Ah... I forgot. There's a special way of reading the Bible which means God agrees with you and everyone else is wrong.

You keep telling yourself that and cherry picking from apologist web sites. Meanwhile in the Bible that actually exists you're going to burn in Hell.

You see, here in the real world God says what He means and means what He says. Why not try reading it properly for yourself instead of cherry picking verses that suit your agenda. You might be surprised just how incompatible your attitude and Christianity actually are.

[Nessa1239]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

But you don't show love by allowing your children to be exposed to abomination:

LEVITICUS 18:22

that goes for girls too

ROMANS 1:26

Now if someone wants to believe something else and worship idols [catholics] or cows [hindus] or the moon [mohammedans] that is their choice. They are clearly not worshipping God because He explicitly prohibits such activities. All non-Christians such as catholics or zoroastrians will go to HELL FOREVER not because I decide that but because God tells us that's the way it is.

There is obviously no such thing as a homosexual Christian because in choosing to be a sex pervert, the pervert REJECTS Jesus REJECTS God's love and REJECTS salvation. The pervert embraces abomination, abomination as defined by God it's that simple.


Here is the rest of that passage from Romans:

ROMANS 1:24-32

Here are the salient facts as stated BY GOD.
Disagree with Him if you want to but don't claim He says something different; .this .is .what .He .says:

from verse 24 to dishonour their own bodies
from verse 26 vile affections
from verse 26 women did change the natural use
from verse 26 against nature
from verse 27 likewise also the men
from verse 27 burned in their lust one toward another
from verse 27 men with men working that which is unseemly
from verse 28 did not like to retain God in their knowledge
from verse 28 a reprobate mind
from verse 29 filled with all unrighteousness
from verse 30 haters of God
from verse 32 worthy of death

That is the love Jesus preached, consistent throughout time and current today. Because the consequences are so severe when people abandon God and start worshipping their own genitals Jesus has preserved His teaching through the apostle Paul and God has presented His Just Law in such a way that there can be no doubt what He is saying. Christians accept His Perfect Love. If it were the same as imperfect human emotion there would be no need for the ministry of Jesus to teach us. But the two are not the same are they.

Without Him we would be wretched indeed!

Again, I will say, abomonation just means non traditional. The word was thought to have been translated from the Hebrew version (which wasn't supposed to happen in the first place).
Homosexuality is abomination. The Christian Right says so all the time, and non-religious LGBT activists say it too, to relegate religion to humanity’s dustheap. After all, isn’t that what it says in the Bible?

No—and progressive religionists should not use the word. It’s a mistranslation and a misconception, doing harm to LGBT people and religious people alike.

The word “abomination” is found, of course, in the King James translation of Leviticus 18:22, a translation which reads, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.” Yet this is a thoroughly misleading rendition of the word toevah, which, while we may not know exactly what it means, definitely does not mean “abomination.” An “abomination” conjures up images of things which should not exist on the face of the earth: three-legged babies, oceans choked with oil, or Cheez-Whiz. And indeed, this is how many religious people regard gays and lesbians. It’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Homosexuality is unnatural, a perversion, a disease, an abomination.

Yet a close reading of the term toevah suggests an entirely different meaning: something permitted to one group, and forbidden to another. Though there is (probably) no etymological relationship, toevah means taboo.

[Nessa1239]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

Ah... I forgot. There's a special way of reading the Bible which means God agrees with you and everyone else is wrong.

You keep telling yourself that and cherry picking from apologist web sites. Meanwhile in the Bible that actually exists you're going to burn in Hell.

You see, here in the real world God says what He means and means what He says. Why not try reading it properly for yourself instead of cherry picking verses that suit your agenda. You might be surprised just how incompatible your attitude and Christianity actually are.

In the real world, people aren't as bigoted as you are. If I'm goin to burn in hell, by your opinion, then so be it. I'll light the match that sets me ablaze. And you know... Why not start taking your own advice? Just a thought.

[Didymus Much]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

Again, I will say the exact same thing I said (well, actually I didn't really say it, I just stole it from http://www396.ssldomain.com/tcpc/lib...library_id=809) 10 minutes ago

Exodus 20:15 "Thou shalt not steal."

pla·gia·rism   [pley-juh-riz-uhm, -jee-uh-riz-] Show IPA
noun
1. an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author: It is said that he plagiarized Thoreau's plagiarism of a line written by Montaigne. Synonyms: appropriation, infringement, piracy, counterfeiting; theft, borrowing, cribbing, passing off.
2. a piece of writing or other work reflecting such unauthorized use or imitation: “These two manuscripts are clearly plagiarisms,” the editor said, tossing them angrily on the floor.

from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagiarism

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

In the real world, people aren't as bigoted as you are. If I'm goin to burn in hell, by your opinion, then so be it. I'll light the match that sets me ablaze. And you know... Why not start taking your own advice? Just a thought.

If you can point out any way that Redeemed Papist's views are not Biblically correct please do,

YIC

Jack

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

I never claimed to know more than him. Nor will I ever. Jesus said it was an abomonation. That just means non-traditional.

So then by your logic the Abominable Snowman is just 'non-traditional'?

Seriously? Are you retarded as well?

Yours In Christ.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

In the real world,

Friend, I do not think you are in tune with reality. The Bible states very clearly that homersexurality is unacceptable, in any form. That means that: no, you do not know Jesus, and that you are destined for the depths of hell.

1 Corinthians
6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,</SPAN> nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Why lie? Why are you trying to decieve and lead others into liberal hippiness, female biker gangs, and eternal damnation with you?

[Nessa1239]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

Exodus 20:15 "Thou shalt not steal."

I don't care. Just proving my point. *shrugs*

[Nessa1239]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

So then by your logic the Abominable Snowman is just 'non-traditional'?

Seriously? Are you retarded as well?

Yours In Christ.

For one whose going for a PhD Marine Biology, certainly not. People get the word abomonation from the translation of the Hebrew version (which wasn't supposed to happen in the first place.) Toevah does not mean abomonation.

[Nessa1239]

Re: I'm Jessica Freeman, total unsaved lesbo trash

I don't care. Just proving my point. *shrugs*

Actually try this website.. Which is where i got it from. And now its not stealing. https://www.religiondispatches.org/a...“abomination