[Matthew Hopkins]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

I'll prove you wrong. #TheBigBangTheory

Scienced.

Friend, the earth is approximately 6,000 years old, that's a fact. If you want the proof then I suggest you consult the Holy Bible.

Your theory is exactly that: a theory. This forum deals with facts, not theories.

YBIC

[PetitionLady]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

I'll prove you wrong. #TheBigBangTheory

Scienced.

Big Bang Theory:

God said it - and BANG! - It Happened!!!

[Senor Hatemonger]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Utter tosh and bunkum. How could a papist create anything.

God tells us himself in his Holy Book "The Holy Bible KJV(1611):

Genesis1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

America is part of the earth therefore God created it.

Prove me wrong.

I'll prove you wrong. #TheBigBangTheory

Scienced.

[Scar Face]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

This great nation trains me to hunt and kill you Muslim filth. I cannot and will not allow your suicide bombings and killing of my fellow brothers in arms. May Gos himself guide my hand swiftly and justly to wipe away your evil souls from the plains of us soldiers of God.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

We know that Abram was a Godly man.

Genesis 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
KJV . look up

One part of that exceeding great reward was LAND (sure, it was occupied by some [10] trollopy nations Genesis 15:18-21 but that was no problem because God loved Abram) and the other part was SONS to live in it. Abram's wife was so excited by the news that she gave her Husband a present:

an extra wife

who turned out to be a trollop too, but God had made a promise and trollop or not her son would also found a nation.

Very much a C minus sort of affair but a nation even so.

GENESIS 16
3 - 4 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes..
6b - 7a And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face. And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness..
9 - 10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.
11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
KJV . look up

So we know that Ishmael founded a nation.
But many of the Abrahamites have gone astray. God's punishment for that is appropriate of course and on-going but when we see the carnage wrought by these wretches one upon another are we seeing part of God's Just Response to apostacy?
Or is it just because we're seeing a bunch of idolatrous fools who had never known Him before they were led so far awry?

[PetitionLady]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Islam is of the devil.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Well I suppose it doesn't really matter in the end. Anyone who worships him/it will find themselves surprised when Satan greets them the moment after they draw their last breath.

And I'm sure they'll recognise him.

Their "god" promised them peace, at least according to their own source material but in reality all they seem to get is internecine mayhem. Perhaps they imagined that they needed to exterminate all the non-muslims from the Arabian peninsula first? Well they did that over a millennium ago..

Why would anyone follow a bogus "god" whose kingdom is founded on murder? It's beyond me.

Jesus promises life.

John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
KJV

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Well said, Sister!

Which do you think Allah is? A demon, or a myth?

Well I suppose it doesn't really matter in the end. Anyone who worships him/it will find themselves surprised when Satan greets them the moment after they draw their last breath.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

A sobering questions, Reverend. If I were to consider that my LORD would have created people who are self-aware, cognizant of their environment, with eternal souls, and then denied them the Truth and punished them for all eternity in hopes that thousands of years later I would hear this story and be Saved, why, I would think He was no Lord at all but a demon. Either that, or perhaps an outdated Bronze-aged mythological character whose relevance has been lost long ago yet remains culturally important simply because it appeals to my ego and fear of death.

Well said, Sister!

Which do you think Allah is? A demon, or a myth?

[John North]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Not a lot of action from the thread starter. Perhaps the light has finally faded?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

A sobering questions, Reverend. If I were to consider that my LORD would have created people who are self-aware, cognizant of their environment, with eternal souls, and then denied them the Truth and punished them for all eternity in hopes that thousands of years later I would hear this story and be Saved, why, I would think He was no Lord at all but a demon. Either that, or perhaps an outdated Bronze-aged mythological character whose relevance has been lost long ago yet remains culturally important simply because it appeals to my ego and fear of death.

I am so happy Mrs Etheldreda, to have found The Truth and not to have been brought up surrounded by a demonic belief system that commands me to lie. Why should we ever believe anything they say?

. . .
. . . al-Taqiyya . . . . . . additional information http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Is that what you think? Do you think God the sort of monster who would allow people to follow the wrong instructions and then damn them for it?

A sobering questions, Reverend. If I were to consider that my LORD would have created people who are self-aware, cognizant of their environment, with eternal souls, and then denied them the Truth and punished them for all eternity in hopes that thousands of years later I would hear this story and be Saved, why, I would think He was no Lord at all but a demon. Either that, or perhaps an outdated Bronze-aged mythological character whose relevance has been lost long ago yet remains culturally important simply because it appeals to my ego and fear of death.

[Carl the wop]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

There will always be the need for unsaved trash. That's what all the other religions are for.

Genesis 25:23 - And the LORD said unto her, Two nations [are] in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and [the one] people shall be stronger than [the other] people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Obviously all other religions are Eve's afterbirth...

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Jesus is not a liar, and no Muslims believes so.

According to our faith, Jesus (peace be upon him) came with the message of one god (no son) but people took the god given powers of miracles and labelled him as such. Again, this is what Islam teaches.

Ah, so then you're saying that every word ascribed to Jesus in the Bible is in question.

Since the Bible is the only written source of information about Jesus, how can you know if anything He said was true, or even if He existed at all?

If god is so powerful and needs worshipping why allow many to believe in so many different faiths? Why not just follow one?

An excellent question.

Let me follow it up with another question: Why wait until the 620s AD, over 5,400 years after creating humanity, to tell them the "right" path?

Or do you think He told them the "right" path repeatedly, but they corrupted it? In this case, He must have known (being all-knowing) that it would be corrupted; He must also have known that it WAS corrupted, yet waited thousands of years to "get it right" again.

He would know, of course, that there would be millions of people living in that "corrupted" period who would wholeheartedly do exactly what was told them to be the Word of God, but who would be damned to unending torment by Him for obeying the wrong commands anyway.

Is that what you think? Do you think God the sort of monster who would allow people to follow the wrong instructions and then damn them for it?

[Carl the wop]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

If He had wanted the stain of Islam to spread across godly Europe, why then did he smite Saladin's Navy at the Battle of Lepanto? Why did the "glorious" Ottoman Empire fall apart like a cardboard shack when those who hold and have been dictated His only True Testament were looking for some desert real estate?