[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

If god is so powerful and needs worshipping why allow many to believe in so many different faiths? Why not just follow one?

I'm sure this logic inspires you just before you go out to bomb some Sunnis or Shi'ites (whichever one you aren't.)

Look son, the world would be a far simpler place if everyone simply adopted the faith of Landover. We are correct and worship the One True God in the way that He ordained.

Do you not see that 600 years after Christ died for your sins (and then came alive again) there was no point in inventing another religion? It has only caused your trouble with the Jews.

If, as you claim, the only real difference is that we accept Christ as God (and God's Son at the same time), why can't you.

It would allow you to have a succulent pork chop whilst drinking a cold beer - that alone is worth the sacrifice.

[Deaner]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

God can do as he pleases. God sent the revelations to man but it was man himself who corrupted it. This logic is quite weak, in my opinion. God being omnipotent and omniscient is a power in its own essence. I can say, If god is so powerful and needs worshipping why allow many to believe in so many different faiths? Why not just follow one?

God is all powerful but the actions of man is what will either lead them to heaven or hell. Whether it's the corruption of revelations or committing of sins.

So you think screwing 9 year old girls and drinking camel piss to get well has somehow not become corrupted along the way?

How's about the millions of you twirling around in a circle and throwing tiny rocks at a great big huge rock that you say is satan?

IT'S A FUCKING ROCK YOU IDIOT!! HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE US??

Get back to your mudhut.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

God can do as he pleases. God sent the revelations to man but it was man himself who corrupted it. This logic is quite weak, in my opinion. God being omnipotent and omniscient is a power in its own essence. I can say, If god is so powerful and needs worshipping why allow many to believe in so many different faiths? Why not just follow one?

God is all powerful but the actions of man is what will either lead them to heaven or hell. Whether it's the corruption of revelations or committing of sins.

So, in your estimation, God chooses to allow His revelation to become corrupted. Why did He bother to reveal anything in the first place? Also, if He allows his revelation to become corrupted and also allows different faiths, and thereby makes us guess at what it takes to avoid eternal damnation, doesn't that make Him an unimaginably sadistic monster? Finally, we get right back to a previous question of mine: How do you know that the Qur'an is the one revelation that He kept from being corrupted?

[Fading Light]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Why do you suppose that Allah either couldn't or wouldn't keep the first two revelations (the Torah and the Gospel) from being corrupted, but instead waited until the third revelation (the Qur'an) to keep it from being corrupted? Would an omnipotent and omniscient beting follow the rule of "third time's a charm?" Why wouldn't Allah have been ready, willing, and able to keep the revelation uncorrupted from the get-go? On the other hand, if there's some good reason why Allah allowed the first two revelations to become corrupted, how do you know that the same isn't true of the Qur'an?

God can do as he pleases. God sent the revelations to man but it was man himself who corrupted it. This logic is quite weak, in my opinion. God being omnipotent and omniscient is a power in its own essence. I can say, If god is so powerful and needs worshipping why allow many to believe in so many different faiths? Why not just follow one?

God is all powerful but the actions of man is what will either lead them to heaven or hell. Whether it's the corruption of revelations or committing of sins.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Jesus is not a liar, and no Muslims believes so.

According to our faith, Jesus (peace be upon him) came with the message of one god (no son) but people took the god given powers of miracles and labelled him as such. Again, this is what Islam teaches.

I am not saying you are wrong but merely given my stance on what I have been taught. Also, my 'defensive rant' was in reply to a post, you can of course, take it in way you please.

Why do you suppose that Allah either couldn't or wouldn't keep the first two revelations (the Torah and the Gospel) from being corrupted, but instead waited until the third revelation (the Qur'an) to keep it from being corrupted? Would an omnipotent and omniscient beting follow the rule of "third time's a charm?" Why wouldn't Allah have been ready, willing, and able to keep the revelation uncorrupted from the get-go? On the other hand, if there's some good reason why Allah allowed the first two revelations to become corrupted, how do you know that the same isn't true of the Qur'an?

[James Hutchins]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Your teachers are terrorists and all they want to do is create discontent around the world. Look what their teachings have done to you. You have seeked us out to make a mockery of Christianity.

[Fading Light]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Jesus is not a liar, and no Muslims believes so.

According to our faith, Jesus (peace be upon him) came with the message of one god (no son) but people took the god given powers of miracles and labelled him as such. Again, this is what Islam teaches.

I am not saying you are wrong but merely given my stance on what I have been taught. Also, my 'defensive rant' was in reply to a post, you can of course, take it in way you please.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Firstly, <defensive rant>

If you're quite finished being defensive and complaining, could you answer my questions?

Your wish appears to have been granted. You have been welcomed as others who mock Jesus have been welcomed in the past.

You claim you are not here to insult our faith, yet your faith inherently does so.

Muhammad calls Jesus a liar. Allow me to explain:

Jesus is the Son of God. He declares such in the Bible.

Muhammad says Jesus is a mere prophet, on a par with Muhammad. Thus, he calls Jesus a liar.

Can a prophet of God be a liar?

If so, how can you know Muhammad is telling the truth?

If not, then if Jesus is a liar, He is a false prophet; Muhammad, claiming Jesus to be a true prophet, thus proves himself a false prophet.

So, which is it?

Explain what? Explain why you think Christopher Columbus created all the continents in the Western Hemisphere?

Explanation: You mock God and think humans can do things He cannot.

[Fading Light]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

Firstly, I did NOT come here for a debate. If you check my post history and view the threads, you will see that it was someone from this forum who started with the questions. I have not intentionally said anything to cause offence.

Also, according to this post by Pastor Billy-Reuben, I am welcomed here as I come in peace and wish to learn about your religion.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showpost.php?p=776361&postcount=5

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

So, let me get this straight.

Instead of teaching me about your faith, you would rather see me as a wolf and sheep clothing? When someone is interested in your faith, does showing good manners and positive sides of your faith not call to be applied?

I can understand your caution but I am not mischievous in my interest.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Columbus created America?

There was clear sailing from Spain to the Far East until Columbus said, "Let there be America" and thereby put the kibosh on his own plan.

[Didymus Much]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

God didn't create America

Christopher Columbus did.

Explain that

Columbus couldn't even FIND America, idiot.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

May peace be upon you all.

I am not here to insult your faith but merely intrigued by your faith.

I hope to be welcomed here as other users have been in the past.

Your wish appears to have been granted. You have been welcomed as others who mock Jesus have been welcomed in the past.

You claim you are not here to insult our faith, yet your faith inherently does so.

Muhammad calls Jesus a liar. Allow me to explain:

Jesus is the Son of God. He declares such in the Bible.

Muhammad says Jesus is a mere prophet, on a par with Muhammad. Thus, he calls Jesus a liar.

Can a prophet of God be a liar?

If so, how can you know Muhammad is telling the truth?

If not, then if Jesus is a liar, He is a false prophet; Muhammad, claiming Jesus to be a true prophet, thus proves himself a false prophet.

So, which is it?

God didn't create America

Christopher Columbus did.

Explain that

Explain what? Explain why you think Christopher Columbus created all the continents in the Western Hemisphere?

Explanation: You mock God and think humans can do things He cannot.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Wow! You wait ages for one sand nigra to come to Jesus then two come along at once.

GLORY

Welcome to the beginning of the rest of your life free from fear of Hell.

[Nobar King]

Re: New Member of Muslim Faith

Instead of teaching me about your faith,

This is not Sunday school. We're here to have a forum to communicate with other Christians without being bothered by ragheads or joos.

If you want to learn about Christianity, how about reading the Bible? Have you done that, yet?