Jesus is crying

[judensplugen]

I'm curious about what old testament commandments you guys follow, and which ones are okay not to follow? One of my questions was going to be about animal sacrifice, but reading around it looks like you guys do that. (impressive).
Why are bicycles evil? God gave them to man before he gave us automobiles, and they are "powered by god" with the legs he gave us. Even if hippies love them...does that spoil them for the rest of us?

There seems to be a lot of confusion about what constitutes a "theory" here, and general misuse of the term. A theory is something that all evidence shows to be true, is generally accepted as true, but at least has the possibility open to be disproven in the future. Speculation is not theory, and gravity is not speculation any more than communion is. The evidence in the bible points to transubstantiation being true, but since I can't see the bread actually become the body of christ, then it is a theory.
Im not arguing for or against communion, just an example of how "theory" gets misused.

Are Australian aboriginals cursed by god as well? They are a distinct race, and did not migrate from africa, though they have dark skin. Do they fall in the same category as africans for you? Does god specifically say Africans, or are we assuming to know what he meant?

I have a million questions, but suppose I'll keep browsing around and reading, most questions have probably been answered in here somewhere.

[judensplugen]

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also is disagreeing with the beliefs espoused here eligibility for automatic banning? Is arguing another interpretation of a passage of scripture reason to close threads?

I mean what is the line on things we can discuss before being kicked out?

[Zechariah Smyth]

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tl:dr

Look right above your wall of attention-whoring...that'll tell you what we want to know about you.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Shimei]

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There seems to be a lot of confusion about what constitutes a "theory" here, and general misuse of the term. A theory is something that all evidence shows to be true, is generally accepted as true, but at least has the possibility open to be disproven in the future.

Right, scientific discoveries that are new consistently require us to discard the old paradigms in favor of newer paradigms. Does this not bring about the question of whether Science is fallible?

The interpretation of the Bible or Theology may conflict at times, just as the interpretation of Science and Nature conflict at times. However, Nature and the Bible do not conflict. The issue, really, boils down to the contradictions found between Theology and Science.

[judensplugen]

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Thanks for the warm christian welcome! I could care less about attention, I'm genuinely curious. I'm not likely to convert, but despite a christian upbringing I haven't heard of many of these things.

Like I'm still not seeing where it says that Hammites are black or african..id thought the canaanites were in the middle-east, and jews arabs and christians kept non-blacks as slaves for a long time as well.

Do landovers follow old testament dietary restrictions as well?
I noticed you all take the Leviticus more seriously than most modern christians, so how much of it does god want us to follow?

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Use the Search function.

[judensplugen]

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I'm not here to flame anyone. Yes, the Jesus is crying is attention-getting, but it doesn't say anything about you. There are all sorts of paintings and statues of jesus crying for the pain of the world.

I haven't tried to debate anything, simply asked for information and clarification, and pointed out a common misuse of an english term. I like to get my information from the source, especially since you have stated that the wikipedia article is corrupt and not representative of your church.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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The only significant time Jesus cried was when He found Lazarus had died. Didn't last long, though: Jesus called out to God and Lazarus came back to life!



You'd know that if you stopped "choking your chicken" and started reading the KJV Bible instead.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Thanks for the warm christian welcome! I could care less about attention, I'm genuinely curious. I'm not likely to convert, but despite a christian upbringing I haven't heard of many of these things.

Like I'm still not seeing where it says that Hammites are black or african..id thought the canaanites were in the middle-east, and jews arabs and christians kept non-blacks as slaves for a long time as well.

Do landovers follow old testament dietary restrictions as well?
I noticed you all take the Leviticus more seriously than most modern christians, so how much of it does god want us to follow?

This is called the INTRODUCTION section for a reason. It's not called the "ask random questions" section. This is the place where you tell us about yourself, your church, and your walk with Jesus (if any). Kindly do that now, or else bugger off.

[Born Again Bob]

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Dear Friend,

There seems to be a lot of confusion about what constitutes a "theory" here, and general misuse of the term. A theory is something that all evidence shows to be true, is generally accepted as true, but at least has the possibility open to be disproven in the future.

My prayers for a finger-wagging lecture on the philosophy of science have come true! Next I'm praying for a 10-speed bike.

The evidence in the bible points to transubstantiation being true, but since I can't see the bread actually become the body of christ, then it is a theory.

So, let's see how your sole example of a "theory" --transubstantiation -- stacks up against your own definition of a "theory":

1. "A theory is something that all evidence shows to be true." There is not a shred of factual evidence to show that God transforms wafers wholesale into blood and guts in a magical, invisible way. In fact as you admit, "I can't see the bread actually become the body of christ" -- so what evidence is there?

So -- on your own theory -- this theory is not a theory -- STRIKE ONE for your attempt to articulate what a theory is!

2. "a theory...is generally accepted as true"

Other than Catholics, no one accepts the theory of transubstantiation. Even among them, it is a source of continual debate. That is, almost everyone in the world rejects this belief.

STRIKE TWO for your attempt to articulate what a theory is and provide an example!

Lastly, per the professor,

3. "A theory...has the possibility open to be disproven in the future"

How, exactly, could one ever prove that the bread in a priest's hand has NOT, in an invisible and undetectable way, become infused with the Godhead?

You can't. In 2,000 years, no one has made the slightest progress in disproving "transubstantiation," because there's nothing you can say or show that would matter. So, transubstantiation is not "open to be disproven" by any data of this world.

STRIKE 3. Your example of a "theory" fails ALL of your stated criteria for a theory.

You're out. And you were both pitching and catching.



But what do I know, I'm just some bumpkin simple enough to believe the Bible is true.

Yours in Him,
BAB

[James Hutchins]

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Welcome friend, if there is a section of the Bible or a life question and want to know what God tells you to do, please, lets talk. If you want to discuss how you have decided God is wrong and you are right, then we are not intersted in feeble attempts to besmear His good name.

[Rear Echelon Lee]

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Must agree totally with Born Again Bob, there is Nothing in the Bible, at least the REAL Bible (KJV1611)that teaches that the waffer becomes the body of Christ when eaten, as a matter of fact to eat the flesh of another person is cannibalism. Christians are not cannibals.

[John North]

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I'm curious about what old testament commandments you guys follow, and which ones are okay not to follow?

bla bla bla

I was paralyzed by your ignorance after having read the very first sentence of your first post. I couldn’t find any motivation to read beyond this point. We follow all of The Bible (down to the very last letter) and there is NO such thing as a commandment that you can skip or chose NOT to follow. A not to stupid person would easily be able to find this information by just browsing around on this forum for a couple of minutes.

One of the worst introductions ever…

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Thanks for the warm christian welcome! I could care less about attention, I'm genuinely curious. I'm not likely to convert, but despite a christian upbringing I haven't heard of many of these things.

Like I'm still not seeing where it says that Hammites are black or african..id thought the canaanites were in the middle-east, and jews arabs and christians kept non-blacks as slaves for a long time as well.

Do landovers follow old testament dietary restrictions as well?
I noticed you all take the Leviticus more seriously than most modern christians, so how much of it does god want us to follow?

You sound like a damned racist to me.

Funny, you start out all worried about being banned, and then instantly start spewing Darwinistic hatespeech about how black people are monkeys and the Irish make good slaves, apart from their laziness.

Why shouldn't I ban you immediately, given how hateful you are?