[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

I have no idea. Ask the pre-Christian Romans. They are the ones who write about the extensive practice of human sacrifice among the druids.




Actually, we have no idea what the original druids believed outside of human sacrifice. It was a mystery religion that left no written records.

So how on earth could you be doing it right?

It all points back to Gardner having made it all up.



Wrong religion, toots. The yin yang is Taoist.


Have you ever seriously questioned your beliefs and not blindly go with what "feels right to you?"



You are free to believe in them, but we are free to question why you believe in them.

Of course, yin and yang isn't part of my religion, but I said, you could compare it.

Yes, I have and I decided that I am going the right way. It works out quite well for me, but I just can't tell you much about it but that, because everything else belongs only into the coven and is secret to everyone else. Of course there are more things, but the only thing I can tell you is, that I am convinced that am doing the right thing. . Of course you are free to ask me about it, but it is my choice how much I want to answer of your questions.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Well, the horned God is a merciful God and he isn't there to let us suffer but to give us peace after life. And I have never heard of it that the horned God needs human sacrifices. What for would he need that?

I have no idea. Ask the pre-Christian Romans. They are the ones who write about the extensive practice of human sacrifice among the druids.

Why wicca? First of all, because my mum was a wicca as well and I just grew up with this. Secondly, because Wiccan religion is all about nature

Actually, we have no idea what the original druids believed outside of human sacrifice. It was a mystery religion that left no written records.

So how on earth could you be doing it right?

It all points back to Gardner having made it all up.

"Yin and Yang",

Wrong religion, toots. The yin yang is Taoist.

It just sounds right to me and I feel very well just as I am.

Have you ever seriously questioned your beliefs and not blindly go with what "feels right to you?"

I'm a free human and I can decide for my own what I want to believe in. As long as I don't hurt or disturb anyone with my believes, what would be wrong with believing in fairies?

You are free to believe in them, but we are free to question why you believe in them.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

This witch wants us to believe in magic she says exists without a shred of evidence. Nothing but her say so and her sense of tradition. Am I getting this right? What sort of credulous fools does she think we are?

I am just explaining to you what I believe in and am not asking ANYONE to believe in the same thing. I offered many times to close this discussion, but you are asking over and over again. So what are you expecting?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

This witch wants us to believe in magic she says exists without a shred of evidence. Nothing but her say so and her sense of tradition. Am I getting this right? What sort of credulous fools does she think we are?

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Well, the horned God is a merciful God and he isn't there to let us suffer but to give us peace after life. And I have never heard of it that the horned God needs human sacrifices. What for would he need that?

Why wicca? First of all, because my mum was a wicca as well and I just grew up with this. Secondly, because Wiccan religion is all about nature and the Goddess and the God can also be seen as the famous "Yin and Yang", a natural circle of life. The Goddess, who gives life, needs the death, just as the death needs life. It just sounds right to me and I feel very well just as I am.

And to biblesweathog: I could, if I wanted to. And why not? I'm a free human and I can decide for my own what I want to believe in. As long as I don't hurt or disturb anyone with my believes, what would be wrong with believing in fairies?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Yes, he found that book on his own,

Okay, so why wicca? Why not Mormonism? Why don't you believe Joseph Smith when he says he found an ancient book that has the Real real testament of Jesus?

based on experiences with witches he met during his journey.

Yeah, considering there were zero wiccans prior to that, I would call it circular reasoning.

No, we are not sacrificing humans anymore.

Why not? If it's what your horned god requires, why don't you do it? Did Gardner (who did steal that do what thou will line from Lavey thanks POV) change the original worship?

How do you know you're not just making the horned god madder and madder by not doing what he says?

[Thinks Design]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

What you don't understand is, that magic has never been ANYTHING different than what I explained. All those strange stories about witches riding broomsticks and whatsoever are stories of the church to scare the people and somehow, that image is stuck on witches.
But you know guys, I give up on trying to explain it to you. I got the feeling that you just do everything in your power to avoid understanding what I say, so I'd say, let's just stick to the point, that I have my way and you have yours, you won't understand what I say anyway.
Blessed Be.

What you have explained is that what you call magic is non functional I.e. it does not affect objective reality and that any use of what you lable magic is to affect ones feelings and emotional state.

How on earth is this different from what psychologists call Magical Thinking (a well research area of cognitive distortion)?

You may as well beleive in faeries at the bottom of the garden.

ThinksDesgn.

[Paragon of virtue]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

But we say: "An it harm none do what ye will".

Y'know who also said that? A gentleman by the name of one Anton Szandor LaVey AKA Howard Stanton Levey. This good fellow has been burning in Hell since 1997 for writing the Satanic Bible. You may call him the "Horned god" but we all know him to be and he is rather intimate with Mr. Levay these days and you can bet he will be very close to you should you not change your ways...you will have no excuse.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Yes, he found that book on his own, but I read that book and he says several times, that he wrote that book based on experiences with witches he met during his journey.


No, we are not sacrificing humans anymore. I said, Wiccan Religion is based on celtic religion, not that it is exactly the same.

And yes, I'm pretty sure that I'm doing it right. My mum taught me how to do it and her mother taught her as well and so on. But as I said, as long as we don't hurt anyone else, we are free to do whatever we want. An it harm none do what ye will.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Gardner released a book about wiccas in 1954.

No, he released the book about wicca which he claimed to have found and translated himself.

The God is called the Horned Go.

The celtic religion that was practiced for around 1000 years over 1500 years ago?

That is something alright. Our God has been worshiped for over 6000 years.

Some people might relate to the devil, but in fact the horned God is the master of death. the Goddess has many faces and can show herself in several ways, so she actually has many names. As we say, "all Goddesses are one Goddess and all Gods are one God." But in fact,we all just call the Goddess our "great mother".

How interesting. Do you also perform human sacrifice like your Celtic druid sisters did back in the Iron Age?

Gardner certainly has made an essential point in the history of Wiccas, but witches existed long time before Wiccas. Wiccas are actually just a modern kind of witches and still use the same rituals as the celtics did.

See my question above.

Noone can tell you, if we do it precisely right! But we say: "An it harm none do what ye will".

That doesn't sound quite like the druid religion. Are you sure you're doing it right?

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Gardner released a book about wiccas in 1954.

The God is called the Horned Go. Some people might relate to the devil, but in fact the horned God is the master of death. the Goddess has many faces and can show herself in several ways, so she actually has many names. As we say, "all Goddesses are one Goddess and all Gods are one God." But in fact,we all just call the Goddess our "great mother".

Gardner certainly has made an essential point in the history of Wiccas, but witches existed long time before Wiccas. Wiccas are actually just a modern kind of witches and still use the same rituals as the celtics did. Noone can tell you, if we do it precisely right! But we say: "An it harm none do what ye will".

[Levi Jones]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

The witchcraft they are warning for is like fortune telling, potions and this things. Many centuries ago, alot of of the simple people were believing in the religion, which is the wiccas religion nowadays.

Simple you mean like stupid? Yeah, that describes wiccans.

Has anyone ever pointed out to you that wicca is a religion that was made up whole cloth in the 1960's?

Actually, the Wiccan religion is very similiar and based on the celtic believes.

Oh really? What were those? What is the name of the god or godess they worshiped? What were its rituals? How do you know you are performing them correctly today?

Is it because of Gardner? I think it is.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

It wasn't me using that picture, I found it on that side by coincidence

The witchcraft they are warning for is like fortune telling, potions and this things. Many centuries ago, alot of of the simple people were believing in the religion, which is the wiccas religion nowadays. But the church started to rise and they saw the witchcraft, which was whorshipping mother nature and the horned God and where people were praying for enough food and love and everything to have a comfortable life, as a rival. So they started to take some of their rituals and twist them into bad things, adding stuff like "riding on broomsticks", to make the people turn to christianity. Especially the catholics started to spread such words about the wiccas and the witch hunts started, so many people became christians. Even now most wiccas only act in secret. Most of our rituals are secret, because most people can't tolerate what we do, even though it has nothing evil on it. Actually, the Wiccan religion is very similiar and based on the celtic believes.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

What you don't understand is, that magic has never been ANYTHING different than what I explained. All those strange stories about witches riding broomsticks and whatsoever are stories of the church to scare the people and somehow, that image is stuck on witches.

Those stories were all made up by the church? Really? Why is the Bible so explicit over and over again on its warnings not to practice witchcraft if none of those stories are true?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

P.S: Pastor Ezekiel, your prayer doesn't work.

Of course it does. He isn't feeling any negative effects of your evil spells, is he?

And now look who became a meme: http://hugelol.org/lol/85511 does that guy look familiar to you?

How dare you use Deaner's picture like that?