[Paragon of virtue]

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A lot of people find Jesus in strange places...like prison or the hospital bed. The way you live your sin-filled life of harlotry you will no doubt wind up in one or both of those places just like the rest of filth that you ignorantly choose to spend your time with, so don't give up hope just yet! There may be a warm prison cell or nice, soft ICU bed with your name on it just waiting for that moment when your heart is really ready to meet the Master...or you may have already blown your chance and you'll die tomorrow and wind up here with all the other witches, idolaters, whores and democrats, but that seems to be a risk you are willing to take so have at it you silly, slutty, Hell-bound succubus!

[Alterboy]

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Jezebal! Succubus!

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

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Jezebal! Succubus!

Funny that you mention Jezebal. Thats the name of my mother.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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Funny that you mention Jezebal. Thats the name of my mother.

Friend, that much was apparent.

Then, according to the Word, you will follow your mother's footsteps and completely miss the Rapture and spend your abode in the bed of Tribulation.

Revelation
2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

[Russell Holbeck]

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Hello Maike Lorenzen. I do not think you should go back to being a witch. First of all I do not think that a witch spell works.

There are some girls in my neighborhood who said they are pagan so I asked them to cast a spell and they said it did not work like that. The girls smell like ground pepper. I told them Jesus walked on water and brought people back from the dead and turned water into wine and healed the blind and He also got mad at a fig tree and made it burn up.

All of this is in the New Testament. He did not need a cauldron.

Thank you.

Rusty

P.S. The name is Jezebel not Jezebal. I hope your mom has it spelled right on her birth certificate.

[Alterboy]

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Funny that you mention Jezebal. Thats the name of my mother.

That doesn't surprize me...
Did she cut all your hair when you were sleeping and sacrifice it to Satan?

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

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Hello Maike Lorenzen. I do not think you should go back to being a witch. First of all I do not think that a witch spell works.

There are some girls in my neighborhood who said they are pagan so I asked them to cast a spell and they said it did not work like that. The girls smell like ground pepper. I told them Jesus walked on water and brought people back from the dead and turned water into wine and healed the blind and He also got mad at a fig tree and made it burn up.

All of this is in the New Testament. He did not need a cauldron.

Thank you.

Rusty

P.S. The name is Jezebel not Jezebal. I hope your mom has it spelled right on her birth certificate.

Nope, my mom actually IS called Jezebal. I think, it's another version of Isabell or something.

And by the way, the girls are right, it doesn't work that way. You cant just stand there and do some magic tricks. Most of the spells are based on rituals held on full moon, or at least at night and certain dates. And it's not like I had a choice. Once a witch, always a witch. My coven needs me, just as much as I need them.

And, um, no, my mum never cut my hair and she most certainly didn't sacrifice anything to Satan. She is a Wiccan as myself and she taught me my first recipes of potions when I was small.

[FreeFromBrains]

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Most of the spells are based on rituals held on full moon, or at least at night and certain dates. And it's not like I had a choice. Once a witch, always a witch. My coven needs me, just as much as I need them

How do you know magic works? I'm at uni and I'm doing the philosophy of science and what sets science apart is that it uses evidence; this needs to be of a high standard.

What is the standard of evidence that you use when you come to the personal conclusion that magic actually has a real world effect that cannot be explained by the placebo or Hawthorn effect?

What controls do you use to minimise bias and what is the experimental design you use to gather and evaluate the evidence to draw conclusions as to whether or not magic actually works?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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How do you know magic works?

She doesn't. She just thinks it does because she is ignorant of how God created the natural elements to interact together.

The more you know...

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

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In fact, this is a good question! But to answer this question is so hard. It's actually more about philosophy than science. To answer, what makes magic real, we would have to answer first: what is reality? How can we measure what is real? For example, hallucinations can be for certain persons as real as the moon is for us. Sometimes we witness things, which we cannot believe to be real, but they are. Some people, who lost a leg, swear that they still feel the pain in the leg sometimes, even if they know, it's gone. We say this is just stupid, but for them it is reality. So, this is actually not about a proof in a science way, but magic is alot about feelings. If you take drugs, you feel very strange things sometimes and you don't question it, you just know that these feelings are there in that moment and that is all that matters. It's similiar with magic. When that feeling is flowing through your body, you can FEEL it and you know that it is REAL for you. I can feel it, I can sense it and it amazes me everytime again. I don't do all this, because I want to be spooky or powerful, but because it makes me feel stable and strong and I feel one with this world. I think you guys have a wrong idea about Wiccas. We don't summon demons or do some magic like Harry Potter or something. xD We are celebrating the mother nature, the circle of life and we pray to get reborn near our beloved ones in our next life. What we seek is wisdom and love in everything, that surrounds us. BELIEVING is stronger than you think. We create a part of our reality on our own. A bumblebee is actually way to fat to fly. But it doesn't know, so it flies either way. Some people are convinced that they are the best, so they are naturally successfull. If you think, you always have bad luck and your life is the worst, it will be. And when I think that this spells work, they will work for me.

Some people who just want to listen to facts only will find it hard to understand what I say. But even though you might not be satisfied with these words, I feel good as I am and it makes me happy and stable to know, that I am a part of this world and that I can feel the nature and life flowing through my body.

For example, on full moon sometimes we just meet in the middle of the forest and dance and eat together and go crazy and just let ourselves go and those are the moments where I feel free like never before and we don't even need drugs for it. Just being human and let our lowest instincts get the control. Pure freedom.

Gosh, I could write waaay more, but nothing what I say will ever be enough. As I said, you need to feel it to understand what I mean. I hope that gave you at least a little idea of what this is about.

[Redeemed Papist]

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None of what you say comes from Jesus so it is all lies.

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

You can't get it any clearer than that. We don't need to listen to a word you say.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

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And I most definitely won't force you to.

By the way, if you really are interested in magic, I recommend to read the book "witchcraft today"

[Thinks Design]

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In fact, this is a good question! But to answer this question is so hard. It's actually more about philosophy than science. To answer, what makes magic real, we would have to answer first: what is reality? How can we measure what is real?

Sweety, when I grade papers the one thing you learn early on is when someone is redefining the question to one they can answer.

When a student has not revised the topic they try to answer another question, just so they can write something.

You are doing that here. Just answer the little tykes question: what standard of evidence do you use?

ThinksDesign

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

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I wrote everything what was necessary. I'm pretty sure you will find your answer in what I said. But if you want a short answer: Feelings.

[FreeFromBrains]

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I wrote everything what was necessary. I'm pretty sure you will find your answer in what I said. But if you want a short answer: Feelings.

So if I told you that I had a feeling that the government were using long range EEGs to filch thoughts from my head, you (with your paradigm of using feelings as evidence) would conclude that my feeling is correct?

What about someone having a panic attack who FEELS that they are going to have a heart attack and die? You (with your paradigm of using feelings as evidence) would conclude they were correct?

What you are basically saying is that if something feels true, it is?

Let's take this to an extreme: our feelings define reality.

Based on this a paedophile is doing nothing wrong because his actions FEEL right to him.

Just how old are you? Do you honestly beleive reality conforms to what people beleive? What if two people beleive two different things?

What is the criterion in use to let you decide whether your feeling is correct or if it just a feeling?

I had a feeling I would fail the Emotion and Thinking module last year. But I passed: so my feeling was wrong.

Are you honestly saying every time you have feeling it is correct?

Seriously?