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  • whiteroses
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by VictoryOS View Post
    Is every mick this dense? Scripture has everything to do with everything! And as is stated on this website repeatedly, this is NOT a debate forum!!! Did you read the agreement when you signed up for your account or did you just click "I agree" and come drunkenly wandering in here trying to draw up your own set of rules?
    No ma'am, every Irish person is unique. I am Irish and I know scriptures, and the Lord are the basis for everything.

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    How do we know they are facts? Because the Bible said so? The Bible was written by men, and men lie. There are extremes to any religion, including Catholics. I wasn't in a cult, but they were so serious all the time so it felt like one. I didn't follow that many traditions anyway, including communion. I just focused on prayer and hope and the Bible. Didn't work.
    Let the Lord into your heart, speak to him outside of prayers, and make him your friend. The Lord will make sure that you will always get what you need. However a lot of people confuse want and need, and thus they feel they do not get the benefits they feel entitled too. The Lord answers all prayers, the answer is sometimes NO. The benefits of a Christian heart are not for this life, but for the hereafter. Eternity is a long time. Our time here is to prepare us as the Lord sees fit.

    Originally posted by Ex-soccer player View Post
    But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. - Matthew 19:26

    So with ALL things are possibe, but you think He cannot even prevent His Holy Word from being twisted Do they preach this heresy in Irish pubs?
    No Sir, they do not preach this in Ireland, howevr it has become a country that runs on the power of money and not human kindness. With this recession most people are spiritually, morally and monetarily bankrupt. We should pray for souls such as these. That they find the way. It is what the Lord would want.

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    How do we know they didn't twist what the spirit told them?
    Because God promised to preserve His words forever:

    [Psalm 12:6-7 KJV] 6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

    [Isaiah 40:8 KJV] 8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

    [Matthew 24:35 KJV] 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.


    How big a deal would it be for an omnipotent God to keep that promise?

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  • Ex-soccer player
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    How do we know they didn't twist what the spirit told them?
    But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. - Matthew 19:26

    So with ALL things are possibe, but you think He cannot even prevent His Holy Word from being twisted Do they preach this heresy in Irish pubs?

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    How do we know they didn't twist what the spirit told them?
    If I had been raised in a cult like you, I'd be paranoid too. But fear not, dear. The LORD is trustworthy (Psalm 19:7), and we can see evidence of His trustworthiness all around us (Psalm 19:1). Your problem isn't with knowing how we can trust the LORD, your problem is with selfishness. Read your posts again and you'll see just how self-centered they are. How can YOU know about God, how can YOU be assured the Bible is right, how can YOU be so sure Jesus loves you? With all this focus on you you you, it's no wonder you can't find the love of Christ in your soul. You've pushed Him out and demanded He worship you! How can you pray when you're constantly thinking about yourself? How can you worship the LORD when you're constantly thinking about yourself? How can you bless someone when you're constantly thinking about yourself?

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  • Nobar King
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    How do we know they didn't twist what the spirit told them?
    Are you telling me that God did not tell Moses that it is a sin to murder other people?

    If you can't believe the Bible, how can you believe anything?

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  • IrishFaeFolk
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
    The men didn't write their own ideas. The Holy Ghost told them what to write.
    How do we know they didn't twist what the spirit told them?

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    Yes, I know that, I was mostly being sarcastic. I know a lot about spirits, trust me. Read my pervious post and you'll find my answer to this. How do we know they were holy? Men can and will lie.
    The men didn't write their own ideas. The Holy Ghost told them what to write.

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  • IrishFaeFolk
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
    You're confused, dear. The Holy Ghost hasn't got a pen, which is find considering He hasn't got hands either, as He is a Holy GHOST. Ergo, He inspires the very Holy Words to be written by holy men who DO have pens. And hands to work them.
    Yes, I know that, I was mostly being sarcastic. I know a lot about spirits, trust me. Read my pervious post and you'll find my answer to this. How do we know they were holy? Men can and will lie.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    The Holy Ghost hasn't got a pen.
    You're confused, dear. The Holy Ghost hasn't got a pen, which is find considering He hasn't got hands either, as He is a Holy GHOST. Ergo, He inspires the very Holy Words to be written by holy men who DO have pens. And hands to work them.

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  • IrishFaeFolk
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
    The Bible was written by the Holy Ghost, through the hands of holy men like Moses who wrote all kinds of true things he couldn't have known about, like Noah's conversations with God (Genesis 6:13-22), or Lot's ability to get his daughters pregnant despite being too drunk to recognize he was poking his own daughters (Genesis 19:30-36).
    The Holy Ghost hasn't got a pen. How do we know Moses was holy? How do we know 100% sure? There is no proof of that. And the Bible has gone through several authors. How do we have proof of their complete holiness? We don't. Men can cover or fabricate anything.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    How do we know they are facts? Because the Bible said so? The Bible was written by men, and men lie. There are extremes to any religion, including Catholics. I wasn't in a cult, but they were so serious all the time so it felt like one. I didn't follow that many traditions anyway, including communion. I just focused on prayer and hope and the Bible. Didn't work.
    The Bible was written by the Holy Ghost, through the hands of holy men like Moses who wrote all kinds of true things he couldn't have known about, like Noah's conversations with God (Genesis 6:13-22), or Lot's ability to get his daughters pregnant despite being too drunk to recognize he was poking his own daughters (Genesis 19:30-36).

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  • VictoryOS
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    The Bible was written by men, and men lie.
    WRONG!!!

    The Bible was written by God and God NEVER lies!!!

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  • IrishFaeFolk
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
    Nonsense. First of all, facts are facts regardless of whether or not you believe in them. And you KNOW this. Unless you are willing to walk off those white cliffs of yours, you know that gravity will work whether or not you believe it. And to suggest a child would hear of God and Christ in the catholic cult would be humorous if it weren't so insulting. Christ cannot be found in a cracker, thank you very much. I mean, good grief.
    How do we know they are facts? Because the Bible said so? The Bible was written by men, and men lie. There are extremes to any religion, including Catholics. I wasn't in a cult, but they were so serious all the time so it felt like one. I didn't follow that many traditions anyway, including communion. I just focused on prayer and hope and the Bible. Didn't work.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by IrishFaeFolk View Post
    Actually, no, it isn't my problem, because it isn't my belief. I once, years ago, tried to let God know that I could be, but I received no answer. I did my best to be perfect but He left me alone, in the dark. And this was as a 13-year-old girl that had never heard of anything but God and Christianity. I felt abandoned and sad. So I turned to something else that gave me answers and peace.
    Nonsense. First of all, facts are facts regardless of whether or not you believe in them. And you KNOW this. Unless you are willing to walk off those white cliffs of yours, you know that gravity will work whether or not you believe it. And to suggest a child would hear of God and Christ in the catholic cult would be humorous if it weren't so insulting. Christ cannot be found in a cracker, thank you very much. I mean, good grief.

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  • IrishFaeFolk
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    Re: Um, Hello

    Originally posted by VictoryOS View Post
    Whew, we have a live one here! You need to put down the bottle of spirits and pick up the Holy Spirit! How can your lack of Faith be my problem when YOU'RE the one who will be tormented and burned to a crisp in the Lake of Fire?

    Let me put it to you this way. Since you're a mick, you probably think it's ok to drink and drive. And in your country, it probably is legal. But let's say you come to visit the Godly and Moral USA. You get drunk as usual and climb behind the wheel of a car. Uh oh, an Officer of the Law pulls you over! You say, "But Officer, I don't think drinking and driving is wrong!"

    Do you think this will keep you out of jail? NO!!! When you die and tell Jesus, "I don't think worshipping Satan and eating babies is wrong!" will that keep you out of the Lake of Fire? NO!!!

    CHECK and MATE!!! Debate that one, pervert!

    For one thing: I'm below 21 so I can't drink. And I don't particularly like booze, it makes me sick.
    It isn't my problem because I don't believe in it. How about we just drop it and say it isn't anyone's problem.
    Drinking and driving is dangerous and I hate people that do it. So many lives have been lost that way. And also: I'm an American citizen, born and raised here. And I'm fiercely proud of it. (What, someone can be a Conservative American and be a Witch? Impossible! Oh wait, no it isn't.) I don't get drunk or drink, and I don't know how to drive yet. So...there you go.
    You're right, that won't keep someone out of jail. People that do that are irresponsible and should be in jail. Therefore, I would never do that. That's just plain logic. And I think that those other things are horrible and wrong because my personal moral code says they are wrong, not because I'm trying to please anyone. And I don't believe in a lake of fire of any kind. When I die I will become part of nature, and that's my belief.
    Oh yes, the delightful term "pervert." How do you think you know this about me, exactly? What makes you think it's true? Stereotypes? Because those don't seem to get anyone very far.

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