[Indian Sinner]

Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

Did He abort them? No? Then shut up.

Both way babies get killed. So what's the difference?

[Des]

Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

What is funny is Christians say abortion should be approved because it is murder.

Very well,

Then why God wiped out Egypt's first born babies?

Did He abort them? No? Then shut up.

[Indian Sinner]

Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

What is funny is Christians say abortion should be approved because it is murder.

Very well,

Then why God wiped out Egypt's first born babies?

[AbandonedByDeath]

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What a glorious day! Daniel was so brilliant out there. He was so strong and brave. One man threw a large cup of really hot coffee on him, and he didn't even budge. I'm excited to go back to the abortion clinics whenever we get the chance!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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My friend Daniel and I have read and studied this entire thread and taken down the wonderful verses shared. He has decided that he and I will go every Thursday and Saturday to Abortion clinics from dawn until dusk and hand out Bible verses and talk to women and men who are considering this horrifying sin! Thank you all for your wonderful testimony and guidance!

The same reason I hang out at gay bars every weekend, friend.

[AbandonedByDeath]

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My friend Daniel and I have read and studied this entire thread and taken down the wonderful verses shared. He has decided that he and I will go every Thursday and Saturday to Abortion clinics from dawn until dusk and hand out Bible verses and talk to women and men who are considering this horrifying sin! Thank you all for your wonderful testimony and guidance!

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

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Did you know that other "churches" baptize babies AFTER BIRTH?!?

Wait, it seems some people have misinterpreted this. I didn't mean to say they baptize the AFTERBIRTH.

Though come to think of it, I guess it wouldn't hurt.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

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Did you know that other "churches" baptize babies AFTER BIRTH?!? They might as well go around wearing T-shirts that say "I don't believe that life begins at conception".

All True Christians(tm) have babies baptized the moment we become aware of their conception. Just a simple injection, it doesn't hurt if she doesn't move.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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But, you know, God never sanctioned the killing of pregnant women, all of your quotes come from men in the bible, and unless Solomon is also God, you're misquoting God's word. MAY YOU BURN IN HELL YOU GODLESS HEATHENS!!!

Who do you think God smote when He sent the great flood?

[Lannah Aikens]

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What Christians believe about Abortion:

Does life begin at conception?

The Bible clearly states that Life begins BEFORE conception.

Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. -Jeremiah 1:5, and Psalm 139:13

Life begins at the time sperm are created. This why God put Onan to death for using birth control:

Genesis 38:9-10:

And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest he should give seed to his brother.

And the thing which he did displeased the LORD; therefore He slew him also.

If we were to believe that life begins at conception, sins like masturbation and birth-control would be acceptable. However, life begins BEFORE conception, so they are not.

Loophole: Note that while human life begins before conception, Jewish life begins one month after birth:

In Leviticus 27:6 a monetary value was placed on jewish children, but not until they reached one month old (any younger had no value). Full Chapter
Likewise, Numbers 3:15:

"Count the Levites by their families and clans. Count every male a month old or more."

What's the difference between True Christian beliefs on Abortion and false-Christian beliefs on abortion?

Catholic dogma and "infallable" Popes support baby-murdering:


More Info here.

Born-again babykillers.

I can't believe how many times I have heard a false-Christian say "I believe life begins at conception because I'm a born-again Christian." HELLO? "I believe life begins at CONCEPTION because I'm a BORN-again Christian?" If you really believed life begins at conception, you would call yourself a "concieved-again" Christian, not a born-again Christian.

Here is a list that proves that even protestant false-Christians still believe the Catholic baby-killing dogma:

They celebrate "Birthdays" not conceptiondays as True Christians do

They say "I have two children and one on the way" instead of "I have three children".

True Christian women check their maxi-pads for miscarriages, and hold a funeral when they find one. "Born-again" babykillers don't.

They have no complaints about the census not counting the unborn.

They also have no complaints against "birth certificates" while True Christians are lobbying for them to be replaced with Conception Certificates

The vast majority of birth control methods involve killing a fertilized egg, including the ubiquitous birth control pill. That's right, if your wife is on the pill, she's a baby-killer. False-Christians brag about how they oppose abortion, yet they have no complaints about this far more common type of babykilling.

Though they oppose stem cell research, which mutilates dead babies, they don't oppose the In vitro fertilisation process which murdered the babies in the first place. Stem Cells are corpses being recycled. It's the fetilization process that created the corpses - and false-Christians don't have anything against it.

The biggest hypocracy of these liberal Christians is that they consider AIDS, Malaria, famine and so on as problems that should be solved, yet they do NOTHING about the fact that 74% of children die of natural causes in the womb (usually within days of conception). They're all "let's cure AIDS" and "let's stop famine" but when it comes to millions upon millions of unborn babies dieing...They suddenly don't care.

Of course, True Christians don't care about either AIDS or unborn babies killed by God's will, because we believe in God's Divine Plan and have no desire to mess it up.

Is abortion Murder?

Yes.

Is Murder wrong?

Sometimes. When God orders us to murder, it is "smiting".

For example, the Bible clearly states that pregnant criminals should be executed:

Genesis 38:24:
24 About three months later Judah was told, "Your daughter-in-law Tamar is guilty of prostitution, and as a result she is now pregnant."
Judah said, "Bring her out and have her burned to death!"
(Full chapter)

Jesus said Judas should have been aborted for his own sake:

"The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born." -Matthew 26:24

King Solomon said for some it might better to be aborted: "Better the miscarriage than he..." -Ecclesiastes 6:3-5

"I should have been...from womb to tomb" -Job 10:18-19

This DOES NOT mean that women have a "right to choose" murder. Only God, and True Christian MEN such as Jesus, King Solomon, and Job have a right to choose murder.

If a man suspects his wife is cheating on him, she has to have an abortion.

Note that this is not "pro-choice" because the woman does not choose to murder her baby. Her husband chooses to have a priest murder the baby, and she has no say in the matter.

In the morally-sound days of Moses, a husband can take her to a priest where she will be given a medicine ("bitter water") which aborts the fetus. If she is guilty of this trespass, "may he make thy thigh to rot, and may thy belly swell and burst asunder. Let the cursed water enter into thy belly, and may thy womb swell and they thigh rot." Numbers 5:21-22 King James Version

The New International translates this in a way that makes it hard to understand. Things suddenly get clearer by looking at the alternative translations in the footnotes:

Numbers 5:21 Or causes you to have a miscarrying womb and barrenness
Numbers 5:22 Or body and cause you to be barren and have a miscarrying womb
Numbers 5:27 Or suffering; she will have barrenness and a miscarrying womb

Here is the whole thing in NIV, with the footnotes placed in the text:

The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11 Then the LORD said to Moses,

12 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'If a man's wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him
13 by sleeping with another man, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act),
14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure-
15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder offering to draw attention to guilt.
16 " 'The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the LORD.

17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water.
18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the LORD, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.
19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, "If no other man has slept with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.
20 Butif you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have defiled yourself by sleeping with a man other than your husband'"-
21 here st is to put the woman under this curse of the oath-"may the LORD cause your people to curse and denounce you when he causes you to ' have a miscarrying womb and barrenness.
22 May this water cause you to be barren and have a miscarrying womb " " 'Then the woman is to say, "Amen. So be it."
23 " 'The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water.
24 He shall have the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water will enter her and cause bitter suffering.
25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the LORD and bring it to the altar.
26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water.
27 If she has defiled herself and been unfaithful to her husband, then when she is made to drink the water that brings a curse, it will go into her and cause bitter suffering; she will have barrenness and a miscarrying womb, and she will become accursed among her people.
28 If, however, the woman has not defiled herself and is free from impurity, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

But, you know, God never sanctioned the killing of pregnant women, all of your quotes come from men in the bible, and unless Solomon is also God, you're misquoting God's word. MAY YOU BURN IN HELL YOU GODLESS HEATHENS!!!

[handmaiden]

Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

So it's a woman's right to murder her baby? Interesting. What about the baby's rights?

Much more importantly, what about the fathers' rights? After all, did God make any specific promises to Sarah? No, it was Abraham that the Lord spoke to, because in God's eyes, children belong to their fathers.

Murdering a child is a crime against a man's most precious property--his seed.
God has seen fit to make man the head of woman, and men are the ones who know best when it comes to matters concerning the nurturing and protection of their seed.


Womanly Yours,

Handmaiden

[shy Rita]

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Okey dokey. Our pastors should wear fish-head hats, silk dresses, and red Prada slippers. Yeah, nothing conveys seriousness like that.

Those fish-head hats are really something to glorify a pagan "god". That's so holy, papists.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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As Buddha said
Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule

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Who cares what some fat dead chink said. That doesn't even make sense.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

Women are their own, no mans, no religions or no governments abortion is their right.

So it's a woman's right to murder her baby? Interesting. What about the baby's rights?

[Bobby-Joe]

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Now I understand that this forum is built on the bible but it takes a certain type of person to type your hate filled comments. You may be a Christian it really doesn't matter as nothing in the court of law would excuse you from such hateful language.

This isn't faschits England friend. America has freedom of speech. It sucks to be you if your precious fee fees were hurt by Pastor Zeke Tough Love talk, but it has to be done to get Satan out of your backside.

A normal person would not find pleasure in wishing death or torture on another Human, let alone a stranger. You probably think all of this is good, a stab at left wing secular America bit instead you are fuelling hate, rape, racism, xenophobia, discrimination, opression and all other Evils.

We do not take pleasure in seeing sinners tortured. We take pleasure in the acts of our Loving Savior Jesus Christ, including when He tortures sinners.

As Buddha said
Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule

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Buddha is dead, Jesus isn't.