[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Finding a husband

Bring myself into a state where Christ would accept me might be a better choice of words.

No dear, it might not. You see, you can never bring yourself into a state where Christ would accept you. God can't stand sin, you see, and between sinful man and God, God always wins. Consider Uzzah who thought he could find a loophole to being accepted near God:

And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.
And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.
2 Samuel 6:6-7

The only way to be acceptable to God is to have your name written in the Book of Life:

And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 21:27

But it seems that finding a husband, once I am saved, will be alot easier than I had thought. I need simply kneel before my maker (Psalm 95:6) with, as you say, my mouth agape and the Lord will ensure it is filled?

Yes. Our LORD is sovereign and knows where the man who is to be your husband is right now. The only thing holding that man back is you. Confess your sins and accept Jesus as your LORD (Romans 10:9) and Master (Matthew 7:21), you shall be saved.

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Finding a husband

Ditzy - I did toy with suggesting it, but I didn't want to put anyone to the effort of finding the shekels - I'm not sure where one would even begin nowadays. Maybe once my father has died, if its not too late.

Zechariah - I shall have to take your word. Foolishly I had always believed I was relatively strong at Maths. Since devoting my life to Jesus though I have realised how incredibly unlikely that is and so have done little more than glanced at your numbers.

Larni - undoubtedly the case.

Mary - thank you for your help there. I must increase my knowledge of scripture so I don't look so foolish.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Finding a husband

Just deserts. The root is the same as "deserve", its just a coincidence its spelt the same as the word for a sandy place.

No.

des·ert

1    [dez-ert]
noun 1. a region so arid because of little rainfall that it supports only sparse and widely spaced vegetation or no vegetation at all: ...

Origin:
1175–1225; Middle English < Anglo-French < Late Latin dēsertum (neuter), noun use of past participle of Latin dēserere to abandon, forsake, equivalent to dē- de- + serere to join together (in a line);

des·sert

   [dih-zurt] Show IPA
noun 1. cake, pie, fruit, pudding, ice cream, etc., served as the final course of a meal...

Origin:
1780–90; < French, derivative of desservir to clear the table. See dis-1 , serve

de·serve

   [dih-zurv] Show IPA verb, -served, -serv·ing.
verb (used with object) 1. to merit, be qualified for, or have a claim to (reward, assistance, punishment, etc.) because of actions, qualities, or situation:

Origin:
1250–1300; Middle English deserven < Anglo-French, Old French deservir, Latin dēservīre to devote oneself to the service of, equivalent to dē- de- + servīre to serve

Three different words, three different origins. Source: http://dictionary.reference.com

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Finding a husband

No.

Desert means an arid area and comes from one route. It also - an entirely different word which just happens to have the same spelling - is derived from the same route as deserves and means something that is deserved.

Scripture agrees,

Psalm 28:4

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Finding a husband

If Scripture is for some reason not suitable for your atheist mind your own reference agrees with me. Simply scroll down the page (it's probably the slider on the right) to see:

de·sert

3    /dɪˈzɜrt/ Show Spelled[dih-zurt] Show IPA
noun 1. Often, deserts . reward or punishment that is deserved: to get one's just deserts. Synonyms: due, payment, recompense, reward; justice, retaliation, retribution, penalty.

2. the state or fact of deserving reward or punishment.

3. the fact of deserving well. Synonyms: merit, virtue, worth.



Origin:
1275–1325; Middle English < Old French deserte, noun use of feminine past participle of deservir to deserve

Can be confused:   deserts, desserts.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Finding a husband

Mary - thank you for your help there. I must increase my knowledge of scripture so I don't look so foolish.

I can't help you look smart, as we women can only fool ourselves into thinking we are somehow clever (and why be so prideful as to do that?). But I can encourage you to know your Bible, your salvation depends upon it.

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Finding a husband

For a woman, you are truly wise. I shall, in my search for a husband, try to follow your dating advice you link to in your signature.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Finding a husband

...It also - an entirely different word which just happens to have the same spelling - is derived from the same route as deserves and means something that is deserved...

How many S's are in the word "desert"?

How many S's are in the word "dessert"?

Are you still going to claim that they are spelled the same?

...Scripture agrees,

Psalm 28:4

Scripture agrees with what? The word "desert" in that Scripture has nothing to do with either "desert" (a sandy place) or "dessert" (final part of meal, usually sweet). It is an archaic (that means "no longer in use") term that means "that which is deserved".

If Scripture is for some reason not suitable for your atheist mind your own reference agrees with me...

Can be confused:   deserts, desserts.

High-lighted the germane bit for you. I was trying to point out where YOU WERE CONFUSED between SEPARATE WORDS in the English language that have SEPARATE MEANINGS and SEPARATE ORIGINS. Just because things sound the same does not mean they are related.

Further point for you to consider:

"des·sert

   [dih-zurt] Show IPA
noun 1. cake, pie, fruit, pudding, ice cream, etc., served as the final course of a meal...

Origin:
1780–90; < French, derivative of desservir to clear the table. See dis-1 , serve"

How would the compilers of the KJV in 1611 use a word that didn't even come to be until 170 years later?

Oh, and please learn the difference between "root" and "route". Homonyms seem to perplex you, but I'll help where I can.

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Finding a husband

Forgive my foolish female brain, but I'm really not certain what point it is you imagine you're making.

I used the term "just deserts". It was queried why I was talking about arid areas. I said

"Just deserts. The root is the same as "deserve", its just a coincidence its spelt the same as the word for a sandy place."

Thus clearly showing they were two different words, spelt the same. At least to me.

You then made a lengthy post claiming that there were three seperate words here. I wasn't at the time certain what point you were attempting to make, but it didn't seem worth clarifying.

I posted with references from a book from 1611 and from the very site you referenced pointing out that there were in fact four words, and I had used it correctly.

You then made the above post which I have frankly no idea what you are trying to say. You talk about desserts for a while - which noone has mentioned except for you - and then - I suppose to add some levity - point out a minor mistake I made.

This is growing rather tiresome, I am attempting to have a conversation with Mary. If you have a point then please make it. At the moment I suspect you believe the expression should be "just desserts" which is clearly nonsense. However, that is clearly foolish.

To reiterate.
The phrase is "just deserts". Deserts means "that which is deserved" and comes from the same root as "deserve". This is easily confirmable. Now, are you quite done? May I return to my conversation?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Finding a husband

...The phrase is "just deserts". Deserts means "that which is deserved" and comes from the same root as "deserve". This is easily confirmable...

My apologies, Catherine. I have to blame my modern dictionary which does not even list the archaic form of "deserts" (had to do some crazy online digging to find one), and I admit I'd fallen into the trap of assuming...

This reference clears it up quite nicely.

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Finding a husband

I think the first part of Isaiah 50:4 is appropriate here (if we can have a little scriptural humour - Proverbs 17:22 seems to imply so, but I would welcome the advice of any True Christians. What do I know after all?)

I'm glad you have learnt something, even if it is not what I would hope you would learn from this forum. If you found me shrewish then I apologise.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Finding a husband

My apologies, Catherine. I have to blame my modern dictionary which does not even list the archaic form of "deserts" (had to do some crazy online digging to find one)

Indeed. Cuh-Razy online digging.

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=just+deserts

No wonder you can't find Jesus when He stands right in front of you!

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Finding a husband

All this pedantry isn't going to get you a husband or any sons.

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Finding a husband

It certainly won't Redeemed Papist. And may well harm, I suspect - although you'd be better placed than me to judge that.

But it seems the matter is, to some extent, out of my hands. All I must do is strive to be a True Christian and the Lord will bring my husband to me. Something to look forwards to, of course, but scarcely the only reason to become saved.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

I think the first part of Isaiah 50:4 is appropriate here (if we can have a little scriptural humour - Proverbs 17:22 seems to imply so, but I would welcome the advice of any True Christians. What do I know after all?)

I'm glad you have learnt something, even if it is not what I would hope you would learn from this forum. If you found me shrewish then I apologise.

Are you sure you are a woman?

You seemed awfully cogent. Maybe your brain scares off men?

YIC
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