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Dirk 07-15-2010 08:35 PM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by H. Montague Worthington (Post 558797)
I think we should make a list of the Biggest Disasters in American History.... Here is my suggestion, in order of damage:

Barack Obama's ACORN Takeover of American Government and His Demonic Push For a Socialist Revolution
Muslim Attacks on America on September 11, 2001
Pearl Harbor
Social Security Act
The Emancipation Proclamation
Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty Nanny State Legislation
1900 Galveston Hurricane
Space Shuttle Challenger Explosion
Creation of the Environmental Protection Agency
1918 Flu Epidemic
Assasination Attempt on Ronald Reagan
1906 San Francisco Earthquake
Tragic Death of Warren G. Harding
Assasination Attempt on Gerald Ford
Activist Judges
Clinton's Debauchery
Women Allowed to Vote
40 Hour Work Week
Hurricane Katrina
I don't see the birth of Obama listed brother. I am also missing abolishment of slavery.

the true 07-20-2010 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man (Post 550914)
All True Christians™ were in shock when Barack Obama got elected. Clearly America did something awful that God punished us for. The last few days I have been talking to a lot of True Christians™ to determine, given that we will have to bear this punishment for a while longer, the True Christian™ perspective on Barack Obama!

Billy Bob Jenkins:
Barack Obama makes subversive policy because he hates America. He hates America because of his training in the Kenyan Secret Service. Barack Obama is waging a war on America and God, and needs to be impeached as an example to the other African agents in our midst.

WWJDnow:
He's an uppity Godless commie black Muslim Arab terrorist who isn't even an American citizen. Because He loves the USA so much, God made Obama President to punish our great country for its sins, mostly homosexualism. The only thing good about the man is that he kept the lesbian Hillary Clinton out of the White House. BTW, his name is Barack Hussein Obama. What more is there to say?

Pastor Isaac Peters:
Upon usurping office, he retroactively destroyed both America's economy and its standing in the world, thus undoing all of the good work of George W. Bush :wub: . Still, it's God's will that he should be in power (Rom. 13:1-5).

James Dewitt:
He has a know friend who is a terrorist (Bill Ayers). Obama has taken over banking, auto, health care and wants to give amnesty to all the Mexicans who invaded our country. WORST of all he lets his wife boss him around, what self respecting man would let his wife tell him what to do, let alone what to eat.

Oakland "Reb" Griner:
As a 1/2 negra, Barrack carries the Curse of Ham with him into the Presidency. Additionally, with the especially Mooslim name, Hussein, he would also invoke God's wrath for glorificating the vile faith of the sand negras too.

Brother Wilfred Ernest:
Obama took our jobs!

Jedediah:
Uppity Kenyan socialist Islamofascist (yes, both socialist and fascist... and nazi and communist) who wants to take our guns, burden us with oppressive taxation, promote abortion, indoctrinate our children, put Christians into FEMA concentration camps, "spread the wealth", give terrorists more legal rights than Real Americans™, appoint radical "czars" to key positions, saddle small businesses with "Obamacare", hmmm... The list goes on.

Mrs. P Wintersnow:
I for one think he is the spawn of Osama and Sadam, which makes him the universal joint in the axle of Evil. I also wonder if he has some chink in him, like that Kim Jong Ill, because he can't even seem to pronounce his first name correctly. Isn't it supposed to be BLACK HUSSEIN OBAMA? :angry:

can you provide proof on any of this?

Julianus Apostata 10-10-2010 08:12 PM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
Exodus 22:28 (NIV)
"Do not blaspheme God or curse the ruler of your people."

My pure obedience to our holy words don't allow me to listen and agree with you.

Didymus Much 10-10-2010 08:58 PM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Julianus Apostata (Post 614704)
Exodus 22:28 (NIV)
"Do not blaspheme God or curse the ruler of your people."

My pure obedience to our holy words don't allow me to listen and agree with you.
So you walk in here with your fingers in your ears. That is your right, no one can force you to listen. But as you've already stated that you won't listen, why should anyone listen to you?

Matthew 7:12 "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."

Jedediah 10-10-2010 09:00 PM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Julianus Apostata (Post 614704)
Exodus 22:28 (NIV)
"Do not blaspheme God or curse the ruler of your people."

My pure obedience to our holy words don't allow me to listen and agree with you.

Obama is not president as long as he can't show his BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

Further, the NIV is a false Bible. You are not following God's Words unless you are reading the real Bible, the KJV 1611.

Julianus Apostata 10-10-2010 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedediah (Post 614755)
Obama is not president as long as he can't show his BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

Further, the NIV is a false Bible. You are not following God's Words unless you are reading the real Bible, the KJV 1611.
But he was acknowledged as so, I can pretend he's not a president, when state representals swore on bible he is.

I am confused. Does God told us that NIV is a false Bible? Are we leading by God's Words then? But how we can be guided by them if we dont have any "first" true God's words which could say so? Is it judged by our logic? Does logic rules can be implemented here? Can you tell me why is the KJV the real one? I need to know!

Cranky Old Man 10-10-2010 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Julianus Apostata (Post 614786)
I am confused. Does God told us that NIV is a false Bible? Are we leading by God's Words then? But how we can be guided by them if we dont have any "first" true God's words which could say so? Is it judged by our logic? Does logic rules can be implemented here? Can you tell me why is the KJV the real one? I need to know!
Of course: Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

Julianus Apostata 10-10-2010 09:43 PM
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28 Exodus: Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

It's still remains with the very same meaning. How could I curse the president, which was declared as one by this state and deputies of this country. I would be going against God's Words. That's not my path.
Now I will read what you've suggested.

Cranky Old Man 10-10-2010 09:49 PM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Julianus Apostata (Post 614805)
28 Exodus: Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people. It's still remains with the very same meaning. How could I curse the president, which was declared as one by this state and deputies of this country. I would be going against God's Words. That's not my path. Now I will read what you've suggested.
As long as Obama hasn't shown us his birth certificate, Obama is not our president!

Julianus Apostata 10-10-2010 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man (Post 614811)
As long as Obama hasn't shown us his birth certificate, Obama is not our president!
Its really questionable to judge if he's or not a ruler of yours by legitimacy of his ability to do his office, but the fact is that he's frankly in this office, he's doing that job of the formal head of the United States, we cant deny such fact. Legitimate or not, the Bible doesn't telling us that ilegitimate ruler, is'nt ruler, if his "ruling" actually is a fact, and our christian reason is guided by such facts which we are comparing with God's Words in Bible and through it - salvation. In God's hand is this all and Bible our guide, still. We have no right to curse even Herod if we were habitants of Jerusalem of that time, Stalin, if we were unlucky Landover Babtist Church followers in Russia (and were citizens of Russia) and so on.

James Dewitt 10-10-2010 10:40 PM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Julianus Apostata (Post 614829)
Its really questionable to judge if he's or not a ruler of yours by legitimacy of his ability to do his office, but the fact is that he's frankly in this office, he's doing that job of the formal head of the United States, we cant deny such fact. Legitimate or not, the Bible doesn't telling us that ilegitimate ruler, is'nt ruler, if his "ruling" actually is a fact, and our christian reason is guided by such facts which we are comparing with God's Words in Bible and through it - salvation. In God's hand is this all and Bible our guide, still. We have no right to curse even Herod if we were habitants of Jerusalem of that time, Stalin, if we were unlucky Landover Babtist Church followers in Russia (and were citizens of Russia) and so on.
I did not vote for him. Osamba is not my President. Osamba sucks at his job. I think we should fire him.

Julianus Apostata 10-10-2010 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by James Dewitt (Post 614848)
I did not vote for him. Osamba is not my President. Osamba sucks at his job. I think we should fire him.

There are others, which are not making excuses, that they didn't vote for him. As that is not deciding if it's your ruler or not, but by the final count of votes. When crusaders in 1204 utterly sacked noble christian Constantinople, former population didnt want them either, and crusader rulers became their rulers for period of time. And as the Bible shines truth, they were not cursing them and if yes, they were cursing through it God, and his intentions. As God's ways are mysterious ways, through pain, sanctity and passion - salvation. This is what God's taught us through his Son and the Bible - that price of heaven is a virtue. And virtue is being obeying God's commands in the Bible, who cares how much you dislike them, when they are God's revelation of truth and that's only thing which counts for a true christian.

Julianus Apostata 10-10-2010 11:02 PM
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Henceforth I still insist on:
28 Exodus: Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.


Forget your reason, when it collides with the Truth.
That you shall not curse the ruler of your people as such sin would'nt be forgotten.

A Follower 10-10-2010 11:25 PM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Julianus Apostata (Post 614870)
Henceforth I still insist on:
28 Exodus: Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.


Forget your reason, when it collides with the Truth.
That you shall not curse the ruler of your people as such sin would'nt be forgotten.
The day Obama stops playing golf and plotting terrorist attacks on innocent Americans and actually starts ruling us, perhaps do something about that economic crisis that's been festering for the past two years, that's the day I will stop cursing him. Until then he is not a ruler and does not deserve any of the protections of a ruler.

Julianus Apostata 10-10-2010 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by A Follower (Post 614888)
The day Obama stops playing golf and plotting terrorist attacks on innocent Americans and actually starts ruling us, perhaps do something about that economic crisis that's been festering for the past two years, that's the day I will stop cursing him. Until then he is not a ruler and does not deserve any of the protections of a ruler.

I am really trying to tell you, that that's not an correct attitude. It's a sin to curse any ruler of your country, good or bad. Read my posts again, its a sin to make excuses because he's doing something with what you disagree. It's not about it, it's about our Holy Bible! We could not worship God if we would thought that he was doing something wrong? Of course we have to worship him! As our wisdom is not a centre of world, it's not up to us to curse someone we're not allowed to! It's the very same matter! Get it!

Pastor Ezekiel 10-10-2010 11:45 PM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Julianus Apostata (Post 614908)
I am really trying to tell you, that that's not an correct attitude. It's a sin to curse any ruler of your country, good or bad. Read my posts again, its a sin to make excuses because he's doing something with what you disagree. It's not about it, it's about our Holy Bible! We could not worship God if we would thought that he was doing something wrong? Of course we have to worship him! As our wisdom is not a centre of world, it's not up to us to curse someone we're not allowed to! It's the very same matter! Get it!
Can you back ANY of that up with Scripture?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm:

Julianus Apostata 10-11-2010 06:17 AM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 614910)
Can you back ANY of that up with Scripture?
But I am constructing all defense of my right from this, as your Church are doing, from Scripture.

Holy Bible is giving us commands - these commands are than processed by our choice, if we shall obey them, or not. That's the disease from the first sin, that's the consequience of taking the fruit from Tree of knowledge. I hope that this I dont have to backup, as I feel somewhat embarassing, to backup even the typical facts from the Bible, like I would be talking to non believers.


To make a choice is therefore based on our wisdom, created by God. If something is more close to God's Words I shall obey it and prefer it rather going against it. Fact for this is God's intention to judge us, fact that God's judge us is not questionable! And as you are reading the Bible and it's your mighty guide to Heaven:

28 Exodus: Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

I said more things recently: the Bible doesn't telling us that ilegitimate ruler, is'nt ruler, if his "ruling" actually is a fact, and our christian reason is guided by such facts which we are comparing with God's Words in Bible and through it - salvation.

That's the fact. In the Bible, we cant see illegitimacy as anything which is affecting if commonly accepted/or voted ruler is in fact a ruler or not! In this sentence I aswell said that God's give us choice by considering, that's also fact. Heaven and Hell are real. And our fate is decided by our considering actions in this short lifetime.

I also said: There are others, which are not making excuses, that they didn't vote for him. As that is not deciding by it if it's your ruler or not, but by the final count of votes. When crusaders in 1204 utterly sacked noble christian Constantinople, former population didnt want them either, and crusader rulers became their rulers for period of time. And as the Bible shines truth, they were not cursing them and if yes, they were cursing through it God, and his intentions. As God's ways are mysterious ways, through pain, sanctity and passion - salvation. This is what God's taught us through his Son and the Bible - that price of heaven is a virtue. And virtue is being obeying God's commands in the Bible, who cares how much you dislike them, when they are God's revelation of truth and that's only thing which counts for a true christian.


It's well known, that our time here is a trial, if we are worthy of God's love.

Romans 14
 10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.


11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.


Henceforth I say - to curse your ruler is a bad sin and contrary to the Word of God! My doing here is no really for purpose of flaming, and I feel very sad for you if you think so, as I am only doing what Scripture says:

20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Julianus Apostata 10-11-2010 06:24 AM
Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 614910)
And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm:

It's not up to you to judge me, I live by Scripture and warn you:
19Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Bobby-Joe 10-11-2010 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Julianus Apostata (Post 615044)
But I am constructing all defense of my right from this, as your Church are doing, from Scripture.
How can you do that? You aren't a Christian. You lack the special understand we Christians have to understand Scripture.

Julianus Apostata 10-11-2010 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe (Post 615051)
How can you do that? You aren't a Christian. You lack the special understand we Christians have to understand Scripture.
Ehm, where did you find that? I am christian. Early christian and I dont respect ecumenical councils. Seem like I am even less afected by catholic decision about gospels than you.

And to be honest, do you want to mock me? When I am pointing at evident command in Scripture - not obeyed by this topic, I dont understand Scripture? Can you prove it? Not. Can I prove emy point by Scripture? Yes.

Christ is my strength.


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