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this thread is very offensive.

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You are offensive to Jesus. Is there any reason why you shouldn't be banned?

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because i have done nothing wrong?
just like these woman who do what they feel is best.

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That's not what the Bible says.

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i accept you and your beliefs as valid to you and thats okay. i respectfully disagree. sorry.

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You can not respectfully disagree with God!

Why you need to follow the entire KJV1611 Holy Bible: 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

Why it is very important to avoid hell (you are heading straight for it at the moment): Psalm 9:17 "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God." Mark 9:43 "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched"

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She should have thought about that BEFORE she had sex and became pregnant. What did the child do to deserve being killed? I didn't plan this baby, but he/she has been made and barring a miscarriage I will give birth.

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yeah rape isnt the womans fault neither is incest. sometimes its just not the right thing to do either and seeing a pregnancy through can result in ruining the young ladies future. her options will be very limited if she has a child.

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What's worse? Rape or murder? I'd say murder is worse.

If you murder the child, you're worse than the rapist.

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If I felt it best to kill you would I? Why do pregnant woman get special killing privileges?

Taking a human life in vain is wrong no matter how you cut it, remember the 6th commandment?

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Amen, brother! You are shaping up to be a fine addition to the forums.

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It is always the woman's fault if she gets "raped": PROOF "rape victims" are whores (CNN).

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Some people say rape isn't about the sex, it's about domination and humiliation.

Well, allow me to introduce you to once such victim then:

JESUS CHRIST

Jesus Christ forgave the people who humiliated Him and hung Him on the cross to die a terrible death.

What did He do? Did He play the victim card? No. He forgave them. Say what? He forgave them even though he was - by all accounts and purposes - the victim??

And yet, when you are victimized by a rape, what's the first thing you do? You go running to the cops so that they can put an equally confused man in jail where he will be sodomized.

If that isn't enough, you want to add insult to injury by murdering and innocent baby.

Two wrongs don't make a right. You know what makes a right? Loving a baby. How do you think God will look upon you if you do so? If you elevate yourself above the hate? It's a straight ticket to Heaven, my friend.

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I will pray for you.

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Abortion is NEVER right. It is murder pure and simple.

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I cannot for the life of me understand why, even at the basest level, a woman would want to lie down on a filthy, stained bed in some run-down, minority area of a town, drink a bottle of gin and have some drug-addicted ex-physician poke at her private parts with a bent coathanger whilst an audience of lecherous men look on.

The alternative of having the blessing of children, living a pleasant, simple and chaste life in the Ways of the Lord and expiring amongst friends before journeying to heaven seems so much more preferable.

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And I don't give a flying SEA monkey (sea monkeys PWN normal monkeys like Jesus PWNS satan!!) what you have to say, unsaved loser!!!

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Actually, abortion is a medical operation, not really much about choice. When the life of the mother is in danger, often the baby must sacrificed, an unpleasent choice but the right one. Why sacrifice the life of a young women/girl for a lifeless pile of molecules?

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Because she is a whore and deserves to die. Why else would she be in this situation.

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So any girl (even is she wears provocative clothes or not) that walks on a street and is attacked and raped, your saying then It is her fault?

If you say yes, your saying that a women doesn't deserves respect and rights and has only to live for man.

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Then my answer is thrice yes! Glory!


Ephesians 5:22-24 (King James Version) 22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.


1 Peter 3:1-6 (King James Version) 1Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.


When to rape Deuteronomy 21:10-14 (King James Version) 10When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, 11And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; 12Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; 13And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. 14And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1 Timothy 2:12 (King James Version) 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

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But of course. She is clearly seducing the man to rape her, e.g. by wearing indecent clothing.

I am glad you are finally figuring that out. This is all in the Holy Bible by the way: Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

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If women is less then an animal (even an animal is better treated) why put the women here in the first place if she suffers? I thought religion was about compassion and respect, apparently only respect for those who are worthy in the eyes of those who control religion. If I didn't knew better, I would say that religion only serves to man to better control the women, an equal to man!!

It is because of your triple yes that many people suffer from rape, even men get raped, and they are not specially gay or believing in something different than you.

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I have shot a lot of animals but I have never shot a woman. So I don't get why you think animals are treated better than women.

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You still can't read, you treat them less than an animal, less than for instance than a dog, you don't shoot dogs do you? And you don't let your faithfull dog burn if the dog gets attacked by other dogs? If you do, please don't.

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Of course I shoot dogs. Dogs are annoying.

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So, let me put your ideas of life that I already know in a short list :

Shoot any animal that annoyes you, even if they're protected by law.

Treat any women as shit, even if they're anatomically and mentally the same while they're (again) protected by law.

Treat anyone like a retard if they disagree with any of your ideas and pray they will be cast in hell.

Even if the life of a women is in danger (even if she provoced someone for rape, that doesn't give any right to that person to rape somenone else), you will sacrifice her for an very unlikely lifeable child (more common foetus = pile of cells).

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A women can wear even a bikini or a topless, it doesn't give any right to anyone to rape or attack that person. And certainly not prevent them to go to a doctor for a abortion. Does God give the right to any person to rape someone else if she/he wears something a bit 'sexy'?

Musn't you first convert them or something?

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Of course God doesn't approve of rape if a woman is flaunting herself and being a harlot. He only approves of it during military campaigns:

"When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee." Deuteronomy 20:10-14

"When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her." Deuteronomy 21:10-14

"Have they not sped? have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two; to Sisera a prey of divers colours, a prey of divers colours of needlework, of divers colours of needlework on both sides, meet for the necks of them that take the spoil?" Judges 5:30

"Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city." Zechariah 14:1-2

And occasionally God uses rape as a form of punishment:

"Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun." 2 Samuel 12:11

But absolutely none of this scripture implies in any way that those women were being anything but horrible filthy temptresses!

Well, we should try to convert EVERYONE, but your point is moot if the harlots are at fault, isn't it?

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We're talking about God's Holy Word here, miss, not secular law.

And this thread is about the Christian position on abortion (baby killing). Better go back and read this thread from the beginning. :rtfm:

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So there's no choice involved in abortions? Really? Since when is abortion not a "choice"? Every medical operation is a choice. People choose whether to undergo Cancer treatment, whether to get blood transfusions, and whether or not to have a limb amputated.

Perhaps you should take a look at the videos from Prolife.com and tell us that these children are nothing but a "pile of molecules". What a disgusting thing to say about a human being.

What does this have to do with your "forced medical procedures"? After all Abortion isn't a choice according to you, it's a necessary medical procedure. But taking this point specifically, what ever happened to personal responsibility? YES it's the girls fault! Read Deuteronomy 22 and the Bible will tell you the same thing!

Who here said that a woman was less than an animal? According to the Bible if you rape an animal, both you and the animal are stoned to death. At least with a unbetrothed woman, there is a marriage, and if the woman screams and fights back she is considered blameless. But instead you want to make her just lay there for your sexual perversions and then make her abort your demon seed. What a disgusting little pervert you are.

Well you wouldn't get raped if you didn't hang out in gay bars, would you.

Wow, you've got an active imagination. Is this the stuff that you fantasize to? Raping women and killing animals? Since when are stray dogs considered protected?

Other than you, who says we're being treated like shit? I'm much happier being a True Christian™ woman than having to live with the likes of you in the secular world.

Well if the safety helmet fits.

I'm absolutely disgusted by you. According to you women should whore themselves all over the place so that you can rape them, and then kill the child. How about this. The woman lives a True Christian™ lifestyle, doesn't get raped and doesn't need an abortion.

Oh and you may want to look at your facts, very few abortions are the result of a reported rape. Mostly it's a matter of convenience.

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Not in Freehold.

Where did you get the idiotic idea than men and women are anatomically the same? Do you think men can get abortions as well? :wacko:

It is not my mistake that they behave like retards.

I would never do that. I hope everyone will see how wrong they are, better themselves and go to Heaven.

Abortion is murder. Murder is bad. It's that simple.

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Does God ever murder?

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When God kills people, always people deserving it of course, it is called smiting.

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Let me enhance Brother Cranky here; when God smites someone (important difference between murder) what happens is the sinner forces God to kill them threw their sins. This is deity assisted suicide and wholly the sinner's fault. Our all knowing, all loving, all powerful Creator can not be held at fault here, it was the sinner who forced God to do this.

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When God smites an unborn child, is that deserved?

So, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle
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which states "precise inequalities that certain pairs of physical properties, such as position and momentum, cannot be simultaneously known to arbitrarily high precision," is wrong, because God is an all knowing Creator?

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If God does it, then it's deserved. Duh. :glare:



This is a very powerful prayer against Witchcraft. This prayer can shut down witches and satanists forever. Being that this prayer basically shuts down the senders of the hexes and vexes by returning their evil to them sevenfold. I hurl it at you NOW! :threaten:

Father,
In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I plead the precious uncorruptable blood of Jesus over myself and my church and everything that belongs to us. I ask for giant warrior Angels to be loosed from Heaven to surround and protect us. As your war club and weapons of war I break down, undamn, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, physic prayers, physic thought, all witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, physic power, physic warfare, prayer chains, and everything else being sent my way or my family members way, and I return it and the demons to the senders right now!, SEVENFOLD, and I BIND it to them by the Blood of Jesus!

Father, I pray that these lost souls will find the light of your son Jesus.. Their own snares and traps have been set against themselves.. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I now loose them from all mindcontrol of satan!.. Father I also ask that you Bind the Holy Spirit to there hearts as a guide to your son Jesus.. So they may be set free from the bondages of satan.

In Jesus name I pray..
Amen

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Not it is not wrong. It's just that Heisenberg only applies to humans, not to God. We humans can only see part of what is happening in the Universe. God however knows the position and the momentum of all particles in all of the space time continuum. That's just how awesome He is!

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Yes, probably the unborn child was thinking about butt sex or something that angered God. People need to take more personal responsibility and stop blaming the Lord for everything.

Friend,
Were talking about God here. What does secular magic like this Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle have to do with that? You can't block God's knowledge by casting a spell.

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Unborn children often touch themselves inadvertently. This is the cause of much intra-uterine smiting (i.e. miscarriages).

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This whole topic is so very distasteful...!