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Johny Joe Hold 08-01-2022 03:18 PM

We Should Not Exonerate Witches from 329 Years Ago
 
There was some kind of ceremony over the weekend to "celebrate" overturning the conviction of a Massachusetts witch. She was tried and convicted in the 1600's.

What right do todays judges have to overturn judges and juries of the 1600's? The judges and juries of that time heard the evidence, pondered it and may a decision. There has been no new evidence since the 1600's to justify overturning the finding she was a witch. We have to assume she was a witch until proof to the contrary is forthcoming.

This whole thing sounds like liberal women's lib to me. We should not stand for it.

Last Conviction in Salem Witch Trials Is Cleared 329 Years Later - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Dr. Anthony J. Toole 08-01-2022 04:13 PM

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Mr. Mayor, this is a blemish on our system of justice. It's not like witches have any redeeming value, like the thousands of Nazis with useful skills that were granted clemency after WW2. These men had organization and ruthless efficiency whereas ladies who refuse to shave their legs are dangerous misfits. Who knows where that will lead?

Mary Etheldreda 08-01-2022 04:19 PM

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Hillary Clinton would not be kidnapping children to extract their adrenal chemicals for power-up juicing among the liberal elite if all the witches had been sufficiently burned back then. Break the chain of evil and only LOVE survives.

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Johny Joe Hold 08-01-2022 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda (Post 1301356)
Hillary Clinton would not be kidnapping children to extract their adrenal chemicals for power-up juicing among the liberal elite if all the witches had been sufficiently burned back then. Break the chain of evil and only LOVE survives.
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I'm glad you brought up Hillary, Sister Mary. Hillary is an example of real time women who may feel empowered in witchery because of this new modern inclination to overlook its evil powers. I almost hate to say this about a Republican in Name Only, but could it be we have a temptress of evil today who calls herself a Republican? I'm talking here of Liz Cheney. She is loud and angry in her criticism of President Trump. There has been no formal trail to determine witchery as there was in the 1600's, but you have to wonder.

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 08-01-2022 07:38 PM

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Has anyone looked into the ancestry of Hillary and the Cheney woman? Because many of those witches will have produced offspring before being tried and convicted, and not everyone has taken the trouble to keep detailed records of their family tree - so very necessary! So who knows what bad blood flows in their varicose veins?

Dennis Lukes 08-01-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey (Post 1301359)
Has anyone looked into the ancestry of Hillary and the Cheney woman? Because many of those witches will have produced offspring before being tried and convicted, and not everyone has taken the trouble to keep detailed records of their family tree - so very necessary! So who knows what bad blood flows in their varicose veins?

I've checked and there weren't any Rodhams or Cheneys among the convicted Salem witches (though there was a Warren). However, witchery passes down matrilineally and therefore is not tied to surnames, making it much harder to track.

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 08-01-2022 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis Lukes (Post 1301360)
I've checked and there weren't any Rodhams or Cheneys among the convicted Salem witches (though there was a Warren). However, witchery passes down matrilineally and therefore is not tied to surnames, making it much harder to track.

Well precisely, Brother Lukes! I think there is quite a strong argument for female children to be given their mothers' surnames, though it is possibly far too late for this to be fully effective.

WWJDnow 08-01-2022 09:14 PM

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The Landover Baptist Church was founded on the Mayflower and played a prominent role is assembling the evidence of sorcery for the witch trials in Salem. We are very proud of this legacy.

Having spoken with our Church archivist, I can assure you that the evidence is overwhelming. The persons convicted of witchcraft in the Salem trials were, in fact, witches. Overturning those decisions today is just Satan's ham-fisted attempt to convince people that witchcraft does not exist.

It works like this: The Bible says witchcraft is real. So, if witchcraft is false, then the Bible is false. We know for a fact that witchcraft is real, and poses a real and significant danger to America. I believe that Biden stole the election from President Trump using witchcraft. This proves that the Bible is right. But the Devil knows that convincing people that witchcraft is not real will invalidate the Bible in their eyes. That will drive them away from God and into Satan's arms.

This is why every school in America should be required to teach about the dangers of witchcraft and the techniques for hunting witches. Gov. Ron DeSantis is preparing legislation that would do exactly this in Florida.

Dennis Lukes 08-01-2022 11:07 PM

Re: We Should Not Exonerate Witches from 329 Years Ago
 
Exodus 22:18 is exactly as valid and true as every other verse in the Bible!

Social Construct 08-02-2022 12:12 PM

Re: We Should Not Exonerate Witches from 329 Years Ago
 
MYSODOMY! SEXISM! MYSOGONY! MISOGYNY! MISSGYMNIE!

#BELIEVEALLWOMEN!

https://historyofmassachusetts.org/s...ials-accusers/
The main accusers were a group of girls and young women from Salem Village who are often referred to as the “afflicted girls” because they claimed that witches were afflicting them by attacking them and making them ill. They accused the majority of the victims in the trials.
#BELIEVEALLWOMEN! #BELIEVEALLWOMEN! #BELIEVEALLWOMEN! #BELIEVEALLWOMEN! #BELIEVEALLWOMEN!

Johny Joe Hold 08-02-2022 01:16 PM

Re: We Should Not Exonerate Witches from 329 Years Ago
 
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Originally Posted by WWJDnow (Post 1301362)
It works like this: The Bible says witchcraft is real. So, if witchcraft is false, then the Bible is false. We know for a fact that witchcraft is real, and poses a real and significant danger to America. I believe that Biden stole the election from President Trump using witchcraft. This proves that the Bible is right.

Gov. Ron DeSantis is preparing legislation that would do exactly this in Florida.

I'm thinking we have more witchcraft around us than most are prepared to admit. I cannot get out of my mind the similarity of known witches to the most prominent woman in government, Nancy Pelosi. Could she have been the force in the mistaken naming of Joe Biden as President?

And what about now? She has been warned by the Dictator of China not to visit Tiawan. He has all but said there will be death and destruction if she does. But she is merrily planning a visit there. Could she be thinking her magical powers will protect her?

I say let's follow her visit to Tiawan carefully. If she returns unharmed it is a sure sign she does have magical powers and is a proven witch.

Russia Blasts 'Provocative' Nancy Pelosi, Vows to Back China (newsweek.com)

Ezekiel Bathfire 08-02-2022 09:41 PM

Re: We Should Not Exonerate Witches from 329 Years Ago
 
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1301353)
There was some kind of ceremony over the weekend to "celebrate" overturning the conviction of a Massachusetts witch. She was tried and convicted in the 1600's.

This is ungodly and would not be done at Landover. Certain "social gatherings" who have the effrontery to call themselves "churches" and so-called priests and pastors, who are no more than shamen, go in for this sort of thing. It is entirely pointless and is a mere sop to the ignorant and superstitious.

As if anything done on earth could ever change anything done in Heaven! The thought is ridiculous! It is clear that these witches were witches at the time and that their execution was entirely in order with the Bible. Had this not been the case, God would have intervened.

Now I hear some of you say, "Well, God never intervened when that old woman was pushed down the stairs and broke her neck!" but this merely means that those shouting from the cheap seats have never considered that God is very inventive in the way He calls people to Heaven. It would not do for everyone to die by being trampled by Buffalo for example - we would just kill all Buffalo and live for ever.

The writer of Ecclesiastes has it right:

Ec:9:5: For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ec:9:6: Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.


So if those dead witches are not part of this overturning the conviction, what, in God's Name, was this supposed to achieve? Is it some Democratic plot to turn us all to atheists?

Dennis Lukes 08-03-2022 02:55 AM

Re: We Should Not Exonerate Witches from 329 Years Ago
 
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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 1301383)
Is it some Democratic plot to turn us all to atheists?

That may very well be the long con, but I think the Democrats' predilection for deceased voters is the more likely answer here. Sure, the witches were killed over 80 years before the founding of the United States, but when has lack of legal citizenship ever stopped someone from voting Democrat?

WilliamJenningsBryan 08-06-2022 11:27 PM

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This whole episode is an example of what's wrong with our public schools. Some whiney LIEberal 8th grade teacher decides to teach her students "woke activism" and bother everyone about something that no one really cares about anymore. In the end their "victory" accomplished nothing - other than a pathetic attempt to undermine religion (i.e. the "Puritans").

As a number of the True Christians™ here have noted, they did not bring forth any new "evidence" that might exonerate this alleged witch.

On the other hand, had the teacher and her students spent a few minutes with Google they might have uncovered some new "evidence" - if they were at all serious.

Well, here it is - from the "scientists" (you know Fauci - "trust the science").

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RYE ERGOT AND WITCHES

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In 1976 Linnda Caporael offered the first evidence that the Salem witch trials followed an outbreak of rye ergot. Ergot is a fungus blight that forms hallucinogenic drugs in bread. Its victims can appear bewitched when they're actually stoned.

Ergot thrives in a cold winter followed by a wet spring. The victims of ergot might suffer paranoia and hallucinations, twitches and spasms, cardiovascular trouble, and stillborn children. Ergot also seriously weakens the immune system.

Now Mary Matossian tells a story about rye ergot that reaches far beyond Salem. She studies seven centuries of demographics, weather, literature, and crop records from Europe and America.

Down through history, Matossian argues, drops in population have followed diets heavy in rye bread and weather that favors ergot. During the huge depopulation in the early years of the Black Death, right after 1347, conditions were ideal for ergot.

. . . .

https://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1037.htm
There is a period some have called the Little Ice Age, lasting from about 1350 to 1850 when it suddenly got warm again - without any CO2, fossil fuels and SUV's around. Of course the globull warming hoax deniers discount any of this.

Of course the Bible (KJV1611) was written before this period and documents the existence of witches - and of course they're guilty.

Next they are going to tell us the demons don't exist?

Get your children out of the public schools and either home school them or enroll them in your local Baptist school.

WWJDnow 08-07-2022 01:52 AM

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There is no end to the public schools' desire to undermine Christianity. Here are just a few of the things we know to be true from the Bible that the public schools actively deny:

Unicorns in Numbers 24:8, dragons in Psalm 148:7, fiery flying serpents in Isaiah 30:6, zombies in Matthew 27:52-54, talking trees in Judges 9:8-15, a talking donkey in Numbers 22:28-30, the ability of True Christians™ to perform miracles greater than those of Jesus in John 14:12, the remission of sin through bondage in Ezekiel 4:4-8, the fact that bad things only happen to bad people in Proverbs 12:21, and a son who is older than his biological father in 2 Chronicles 21:18-22 and 2 Chronicles 22:1-2.

As True Christians™, we know all of these things to be true. For example, Matthew 17:20-21 tells us that True Christians™ can move mountains through faith. Every couple of years we do exactly that, moving mountains by a few inches just to mess with the godless scientists. That's why measurements of mountain height keep changing. (We don't move the mountains farther because, presumably, God put them where they are for a reason, and we don't want to set God's great plan behind schedule.)

Thankfully, with our newly conservative Supreme Court, the US will soon return to a Bible-based public school education and left wing anti-Christian oppression will end forever.

Johny Joe Hold 08-07-2022 02:19 AM

Re: We Should Not Exonerate Witches from 329 Years Ago
 
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Originally Posted by WWJDnow (Post 1301518)
There is no end to the public schools' desire to undermine Christianity. Here are just a few of the things we know to be true from the Bible that the public schools actively deny:
Unicorns in Numbers 24:8, dragons in Psalm 148:7, fiery flying serpents in Isaiah 30:6, zombies in Matthew 27:52-54, talking trees in Judges 9:8-15, a talking donkey in Numbers 22:28-30, the ability of True Christians™ to perform miracles greater than those of Jesus in John 14:12, the remission of sin through bondage in Ezekiel 4:4-8, the fact that bad things only happen to bad people in Proverbs 12:21, and a son who is older than his biological father in 2 Chronicles 21:18-22 and 2 Chronicles 22:1-2.
As True Christians™, we know all of these things to be true. For example, Matthew 17:20-21 tells us that True Christians™ can move mountains through faith. Every couple of years we do exactly that, moving mountains by a few inches just to mess with the godless scientists. That's why measurements of mountain height keep changing. (We don't move the mountains farther because, presumably, God put them where they are for a reason, and we don't want to set God's great plan behind schedule.)
Thankfully, with our newly conservative Supreme Court, the US will soon return to a Bible-based public school education and left wing anti-Christian oppression will end forever.

Powerful, Brother Dnow. The battle we fight to have truth taught in our schools is never ending. Satan is always there, tempting teachers and administrators to leave the Bible's truths behind.

With the help of President Trumps Supreme Court Justices we will prevail.

handmaiden 08-07-2022 03:27 AM

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You know what is sort of crazy? With all this new "tolerance" about "alternative spirituality" and neo-pagan this and indigenous rituals that, we have so many more witches and shamans and wizards to fight against. So instead of exonerating clearly guilty people from the past, we need to step up our efforts to condemn, convict and punish people in the here and now.

In the past, churches openly preached against witchcraft so witches had to hide their activities. It took canny observation to spot their magic evil deeds and report them to the religious authorities. Nowadays, people flaunt their devil-worship. It's down right popular.

This is why we, True Christians™, need to control not just all the churches but all the legislative bodies and governing boards, and any other ruling institutions. We have to make witches afraid again. And we need to make gays ashamed and Jews nervous.

Forget undoing the perfectly acceptable legal rulings from 329 years ago, we need to roll the clocks and calendars even further back. It's the only way to fight the liberal, progressive agenda. Backwards, not forward is the way to go to ensure the future of our country.


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