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Basilissa 01-29-2018 11:18 PM

President Donald Trump Explains Climate Change
 
In a recent interview with some random Englishman whose name nobody cares about, President Donald J. Trump (:wub:) has explained the climate change - that is, obviously, the lack of it. (As we know, climate is controlled 100% by God, and He would not start cranking up the thermostat for no good reason).

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In an interview with Piers Morgan airing Sunday on Britain's ITV News, the president said the world was cooling and warming at the same time and that claims of melting ice caps haven't come true.

TRUMP: "There is a cooling, and there's a heating. I mean, look, it used to not be climate change, it used to be global warming. That wasn't working too well because it was getting too cold all over the place."
Of course whiners will be whiners, so the false so-called scientists (1 Tim 6:20) complained:

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Ten different climate scientists contacted by The Associated Press said the president was not accurate about climate change. Rutgers University climate scientist Jennifer Francis responded in an email: "Clearly President Trump is relying on alternative facts to inform his views on climate change. Ice on the ocean and on land are both disappearing rapidly, and we know why: increasing greenhouse gases from burning fossil fuels that trap more heat and melt the ice. "

THE FACTS: The world hasn't had a cooler than average year since 1976 and hasn't had a cooler than normal month since the end of 1985, according to more than 135 years of temperature records kept by NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The last four years have been the four hottest years on record globally, with 2010 the fifth hottest year, according to NOAA. Every year in the 21st century has been at least three quarters of a degree (0.4 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 20th century average and in the top 25 hottest years on record, NOAA records show.

And while a good chunk of the United States had a frigid snap recently, most of the rest of the world was far warmer than normal, according to temperature records.
President Trump explained that fluctuations are normal, and the ice caps are, in fact, at a record level:

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TRUMP: "The ice caps were going to melt, they were going to be gone by now, but now they're setting records. They're at a record level."
Unfortunately, malcontents keep nitpicking:

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THE FACTS: It is a bit more nuanced, but not quite right.

While a small number of experts a decade ago had predicted that Arctic would be free of summer sea ice by now, most mainstream scientists and the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change did not, instead they said Arctic sea ice would shrink, which it has, said Pennsylvania State University ice scientist Richard Alley. Most scientists, including the director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center, are predicting that the Arctic will be free of summer sea ice sometime around the 2040s.

The Arctic set a record for the lowest amount of sea ice in the winter, when sea ice usually grows to its maximum levels, in March 2017. In 2012, the Arctic set a record for lowest sea ice levels. Sea ice recovered slightly from that record and in 2017 in September, the annual low was only the eighth lowest on record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. But the 10 lowest years of sea ice have been all in the last 11 years. Arctic sea ice is declining at a rate of 13.2 percent per decade, according to NASA.

Princeton University climate scientist Michael Oppenheimer said the Antarctic sea ice pack, less directly influenced by global climate change, varies from year to year. Antarctica hit a record low for sea ice in March 2017, the same month the Arctic hit a record winter low. Antarctic sea ice also reached a record high in 2014.

"Both of the large ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica are losing hundreds of billions of tons of ice per year. Sea ice continues to decline significantly in the Arctic decade by decade, and the thickness of Arctic ice is now less than 50 percent of what it was 40 years ago," National Snow and Ice Data Center scientist Ted Scambos said in an email.
I suppose nothing will satisfy the scientsy types. :thumbdown: Fortunately, Trump as well as other Godly Republicans are able to denounce all of that "science" as a mere hoax! They know well that any person who believes in God cannot accept a manmade climate change. After all, even scientists cannot get their story straight, they are still split 9136 to 1 one this subject!

I could keep going, but instead I will just refer you to this list of global warming hoax threads. :)

handmaiden 01-29-2018 11:42 PM

Re: President Donald Trump Explains Climate Change
 
Sister, this line in your quoted content really registered with me.

"THE FACTS: It is a bit more nuanced, but not quite right."


Of course Donald Trump isn't going to listen to that gobbledy-gook! The man just doesn't do "nuance".


Trump is a straight-shooter who knows his target. He likes his facts straight up and simple. If it's "nuanced" and complicated it's not a fact; it's a point of view.


The man doesn't have the time for complex information. He's got serious problems. He needs to deal with those first. He will get around to clearing up all the confusing scientists with their alarmist ideas as soon as he's done with the deportations, the wall and Planned Parenthood.


When Trump gets moving with his agenda, "Climate Change" will be a dim memory of an issue.

Didymus Much 01-30-2018 01:06 AM

Re: President Donald Trump Explains Climate Change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handmaiden (Post 1227262)
...Donald Trump ... just doesn't do "nuance"...

He was perfectly happy with the old ances* and sees no need for the taxpayers to pay for changing them all. :thumbdown:


*whatever they are, he's got people to deal with that, fake news, emails etc etc

MitzaLizalor 01-30-2018 05:26 AM

Re: President Donald Trump Explains Climate Change
 
"Wow! The temperature's surged ¾° I think I'm dehydrating in this heatwave!"
"Brr-r-r! The temperature's plunged ¾° I'm getting hypothermia.."
"doesn't ring true, does it. Would anyone even notice a ¾° change in temperature? And yet they expect us to swallow:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1227259)
Quote:

Every year in the 21st century has been at least three quarters of a degree (0.4 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 20th century average and in the top 25 hottest years on record, NOAA records show.

And while a good chunk of the United States had a frigid snap recently, most of the rest of the world was far warmer than normal, according to temperature records.


Far warmer than normal? In the previous sentence it was ¾° warmer. But more interesting was the bit about "the top 25 hottest years" in a scale where there's only 135 years altogether. So what caused the rest of the 25 years to be hottest? And if it's averaged out somehow surely you'd be interested in the hottest 67 years? Everything cooler than the midway year would be cooler than the median temperature (averaged across the whole year I suppose) raising the question: Why?

And this is from scientists who claim we're coming out of an ice age and have not yet reached climate optimum, as it used to be called. That was gauged by records of when rivers froze. In addition, they tell us, there have been numerous ice ages. The climate change in between must have been a warming change. Or have I gone mad? Are they claiming that in between their proclaimed ice ages there was cooling? But more particularly, since they acknowledge the brevity of their records, how can they know what the average is to begin with?

And if the last 17 years are among the hottest 25 years then they're also among the hottest 67 years..namely those warmer than the median year..raising the question, what about the other 50 years that were also hotter? They can't be in this century can they? What made them hotter? And why did temperatures in the 70's and 80's drop?

But they have no interest in evidence. Otherwise they couldn't adopt their alarmist stance which is refuted immediately upon reading Jeremiah 5:22.

WilliamJenningsBryan 01-30-2018 05:46 AM

Re: President Donald Trump Explains Climate Change
 
Some have said that Donald Trump has a high IQ, and no doubt he has been reading some of the latest scientific papers on the matter and trying to distill them for the common man.

I myself don't understand much of this, all I know is that God killed those dinosaurs (and turned them into oil) for a reason - and I'm not convinced it was to sequester all that CO2. If it's going to get colder God meant for us to burn them to keep warm.

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Global SST data confirms cooling is on the way.
THE COMING COOLING.
The latest hadsst3 data shows global sst temperatures are now below the pre El Nino trend.
Thursday, January 25, 2018

. . . .

ABSTRACT

This paper argues that the methods used by the establishment climate science community are not fit for purpose and that a new forecasting paradigm should be adopted. Earth’s climate is the result of resonances and beats between various quasi-cyclic processes of varying wavelengths. It is not possible to forecast the future unless we have a good understanding of where the earth is in time in relation to the current phases of those different interacting natural quasi periodicities. Evidence is presented specifying the timing and amplitude of the natural 60+/- year and, more importantly, 1,000 year periodicities (observed emergent behaviors) that are so obvious in the temperature record. Data related to the solar climate driver is discussed and the solar cycle 22 low in the neutron count (high solar activity) in 1991 is identified as a solar activity millennial peak and correlated with the millennial peak -inversion point – in the RSS temperature trend in about 2003. The cyclic trends are projected forward and predict a probable general temperature decline in the coming decades and centuries. Estimates of the timing and amplitude of the coming cooling are made. If the real climate outcomes follow a trend which approaches the near term forecasts of this working hypothesis, the divergence between the IPCC forecasts and those projected by this paper will be so large by 2021 as to make the current, supposedly actionable, level of confidence in the IPCC forecasts untenable.

. . . .

https://climatesense-norpag.blogspot...ing-is-on.html


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