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Johny Joe Hold 05-08-2019 09:44 PM

Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
I've been making phone calls this week to Republican farmers I know here in Iowa. They, along with farmers in other Midwest states, gave the President his victory in 2016.
I'm calling the farmers because they have been complaining about the President's failure to reach a trade deal with China. Farm prices dropped after the President was elected because he raised tariffs on goods from China and they, in turn, raised tariffs on soy beans produced here in Iowa. Many of the farmers I talk to cannot make loan payments on their farm land and tractors.

I tell the farmers they should not be focusing on themselves. The President needs votes from other states this election and does not need the farmers. If lots of them go bankrupt it will be for a good cause, I tell them. They need to man up and serve a greater cause.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/t...-business.html

Ezekiel Bathfire 05-08-2019 11:38 PM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
The Bible tells us that we should think of others and not simply our own interests – it does this by giving us the example of Sacrifice.

It may be surprising to hear that God gave his only begotten Son that we may have Mr Trump as a president, but this becomes clearer when we realize that God Has a Plan! (He must have a Plan because the End of Days is described.) Therefore we can see that everything that happens is part of that Plan.

Men have their faults – yes, even Mr Trump may be too reticent in stating his mind or he may, from time to time, speak frankly as a father might to an errant son – and yet men served God’s Purpose and Will on earth.

We need to repay God for all that He has done – we need to help make His Plan come to fruition. On the overview, all is going well and when all is going well, it shows that God is pleased. We need to keep God pleased... The time for sacrifice has come again.

As you point out, there may be the odd victim of friendly fire, the odd piece of collateral damage but the Plan – The Big Picture – is on course if we hold our nerve, keep our faith in God and America, and support our lawful president.

Johny Joe Hold 05-09-2019 12:56 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 1251439)
As you point out, there may be the odd victim of friendly fire, the odd piece of collateral damage but the Plan – The Big Picture – is on course if we hold our nerve, keep our faith in God and America, and support our lawful president.

Thank you for that inspirational post, Pastor Bathfire.

My friend, Senator Kevin Cramer of North Dakota, said today he is hearing the same thing from farmers. They are worried. I hope he is telling them they must not slip and vote for a Democrat. A Democrat will bring in socialism.

https://www.kvrr.com/2019/05/07/a-lo...F5XuhZW-l1SBx4

Johny Joe Hold 05-10-2019 02:32 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Today our Christian friend and Vice President Mike Pence was in the Midwest trying to cheer up farmers. They are such a dour bunch. Look at their ungrateful faces.

One farmer had the nerve to tell the press,

“It’s vitally important that we keep that market open,” Harless told the vice president. He said markets need certainty, and “as long as USMCA isn’t ratified, there is uncertainty.” He said agricultural trade “shouldn’t be a political issue.”


https://www.inforum.com/incoming/101...ENCEVISIT.vote

MitzaLizalor 05-10-2019 05:13 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1251432)
I've been making phone calls this week to Republican farmers I know here in Iowa. They, along with farmers in other Midwest states, gave the President his victory in 2016.
I'm calling the farmers because they have been complaining about the President's failure to reach a trade deal with China. Farm prices dropped after the President was elected because he raised tariffs on goods from China and they, in turn, raised tariffs on soy beans produced here in Iowa. Many of the farmers I talk to cannot make loan payments on their farm land and tractors.

I tell the farmers they should not be focusing on themselves. The President needs votes from other states this election and does not need the farmers. If lots of them go bankrupt it will be for a good cause, I tell them. They need to man up and serve a greater cause.

:fear2: Soy beans? Isn't that what's used to make soy latté?
8 g coffee beans grown on east facing slopes of the Andes
59 ml Chukotkan meltwater
170 ml organic soy milk
25 ml Comorian night-harvested vanilla infusion
4 mg desiccated saffron dust
undressed Himalayan sandalwood sticks (for stirring)
truffled vodka (flambé garnish)
Does anyone really need the "method" (which involves a thermometer) detailed? What sort of person would drink that? This, surely, is one crop America can do without.

WilliamJenningsBryan 05-10-2019 08:34 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1251485)
Today our Christian friend and Vice President Mike Pence was in the Midwest trying to cheer up farmers. They are such a dour bunch. Look at their ungrateful faces.

One farmer had the nerve to tell the press,

“It’s vitally important that we keep that market open,” Harless told the vice president. He said markets need certainty, and “as long as USMCA isn’t ratified, there is uncertainty.” He said agricultural trade “shouldn’t be a political issue.”


And whose fault is that? Trump signed it, and it's Pelosi and the DEMONcrats in congress holding it up.

A prescient voice from the past - H. Ross Perot said NAFTA was a giant "sucking sound" - and he turned out to be right. Never vote Democrat - if you've learned your lesson, and listen to Jesus.


Johny Joe Hold 05-11-2019 09:49 PM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Today there is even more whining by farmers and "agricultural analysts." This is after the President tweeted that he will purchase all the surplus grain and send it to starving countries.

All of this is part of the President's big picture approach to driving off socialism. If Democrats get into power the government will do everything.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...se/1143730001/

Brother Gonzalez 05-11-2019 11:22 PM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1251555)
Today there is even more whining by farmers and "agricultural analysts." This is after the President tweeted that he will purchase all the surplus grain and send it to starving countries.

All of this is part of the President's big picture approach to driving off socialism. If Democrats get into power the government will do everything.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...se/1143730001/

I think grain can be used to fill the border wall. You know, you can save some concret while skyrocketing prices of agricultural goods. And making a wall to keep those smelly browns out of America.
Win win win.

handmaiden 05-12-2019 05:34 PM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1251555)
Today there is even more whining by farmers and "agricultural analysts." This is after the President tweeted that he will purchase all the surplus grain and send it to starving countries.

All of this is part of the President's big picture approach to driving off socialism. If Democrats get into power the government will do everything.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...se/1143730001/

Of course, The President will take care of the farmers! They are his people, and he always takes care of his own. Just like The Lord takes care of His people.

I am a little uncertain about sending grain to other countries, though. If God arranged for those people's grain crops to fail, should we be interfering?

Johny Joe Hold 05-13-2019 12:54 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handmaiden (Post 1251578)
Of course, The President will take care of the farmers! They are his people, and he always takes care of his own. Just like The Lord takes care of His people.
I am a little uncertain about sending grain to other countries, though. If God arranged for those people's grain crops to fail, should we be interfering?

We know God said there would be a famine in the seventh year. Maybe the President should buy cheap grain from farmers and store it for use when the famine hits us, about the year 2026.

https://www.biblehub.com/genesis/41-30.htm

H. Montague Worthington 05-17-2019 02:02 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
What kind of REAL American grows soy beans? Soy beans make soy sauce, the spicy lubricant that Asians use to force their rancid food down their throats. It's the thing San Francisco liberals and lay-about hippies use to make tasteless vegan tofu. It's what city folks use to make Soylent Green, a "food" for lunatic liberals made from aborted babies, victims of Obama's Senior Citizen Death Squads, and soy beans.

So Donald Trump is doing Iowa farmers a huge favor!! He is singlehandedly turning Iowa's agriculture away from feeding Chinamen, aborting babies to be eaten by city folks, and sticking it to the San Francisco vegan hippies who smoke dope and prop up liberal socialism.


Brilliant on every level, Mr. Trump!!!!!!!!!

Sally Paulson 05-18-2019 07:40 PM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
If you ask me, inside every soybean field is a golf course wanting to burst out.

I want to be able to hit a golf ball from coast to coast. Stop wasting space! Free the golf fields!

Bezukhov 05-27-2019 01:52 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
You want a better system to manage trade with foreign nations? Just make it so that no one is allowed to buy or sell unless they have the Mark of America on their foreheads.

Elmer G. White 05-27-2019 05:29 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bezukhov (Post 1252305)
You want a better system to manage trade with foreign nations? Just make it so that no one is allowed to buy or sell unless they have the Mark of America on their foreheads.

Dear Friend,

We would never do business with people with markings on their foreheads. Getting a mark - such as a tattoo or the dot of the Ornamental Indians - is something that our Lord God abhors.

Leviticus 19:28
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.

Eventually, many will receive the Mark of the Beast (but I doubt that it will be an American flag or any other Godly Patriotic symbol) and that will tell us who will be cast into the bottomless pit to be tormented for ever and ever.

Revelation 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

MitzaLizalor 05-27-2019 12:47 PM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
For pedants thinking that "chips" are not tattoos isn't it true that they contain miniature PRINTED circuit boards?

My main question though is about the lake of fire burning with brimstone. I'm not going to look up the temperature at which brimstone catches fire because anyone could do that and get an answer almost immediately. Instead I'm asking about
Revelation 19:20e These both [the beast and the false prophet] were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Does the fact that the beast and the false prophet were alive when they were cast in mean that they remained alive after they were cast in? Obviously there was a time before they were cast in but what about afterwards? Did time still exist then?

My next question is about sinners who reject God's love. Is it the same lake of fire in either case?

Johny Joe Hold 08-26-2019 03:34 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Now Iowa farmers are whining about something else.

When President Trump was campaigning he praised farmers and promised he would not let them down. He also said he loved ethanol. Ethanol is a fuel made from corn. When people put an ethanol/gasoline mix in their cars it helps raise the price of corn and farmers are happy.

Of course, big oil companies do not like ethanol because drivers use less gasoline. President Trump and all of us good Republicans like the big oil companies. Jesus does too. Big oil makes generous political contributions to Republicans.

President Trump saw the opportunity to give big oil a break by reducing regulations. Profits of big oil went up and the price of gasoline went down. Ethanol became expensive.

Farmers are complaining because several ethanol plants have closed and corn prices are lower. They are being unreasonable again. The President still likes farmers and ethanol. But, to Make America Great Again oil companies need to make lots of money.

Farmers should button it up and support Made America Great Again.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...rs/2085033001/

MitzaLizalor 08-26-2019 11:03 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
I read today that Europe is likely to knock agricultural imports from Mercosur on the head. Could this be an opportunity for grain farmers to supply the Euro-vodka machine?

Mary Etheldreda 08-26-2019 06:21 PM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
I feel like the farmers have been the heart of America from the very beginning until Obama sat in the White House. I think he fostered in a culture of complaining about not having enough just for the principle. While he taught the people how to whine in a classy sounding way, Michelle kissed up to the farmers with her "healthy eating" propaganda. Only the strongest of faith have been able to withstand the Spiritual Onslaught brought in by the Obamas.

Dennis Lukes 08-27-2019 02:49 AM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda (Post 1257192)
I feel like the farmers have been the heart of America from the very beginning until Obama sat in the White House.

The noble occupation of farming may have been corrupted even earlier than that. Godless liberal fool Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer. Race-mixing heathen Thomas Jefferson was a planter, and the fact that Biblically-sanctioned slaves did all the actual work doesn't quite make up for it. Heck, the first murderer himself, Cain, was a farmer (Genesis 4:2-3). The seeds of Satanic corruption were planted in agriculture and began sprouting long before B.O. was born in Kenya.

Johny Joe Hold 09-16-2019 02:23 PM

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump
 
Today on the front page of Iowa's liberal rag, the Des Moines Register, is a story about another ethanol plant closing in the state. Two of these huge political factories that convert corn into alcohol which is put into gasoline have closed.

While these plants have kept corn prices high there real purpose was to put a figure in the eye of our friends at Big Oil. The Exxons and Shells were having trouble enough before the farmers inserted the competitive fuel. Big Oil needed help from President Trump.

He helped Big Oil by reducing the onerous environmental regulations. Oil and gasoline sales went up, farmers political alcohol went down. Instead of excepting what is fair, farmers have been whining about their low prices. Trump carried these farm states and now they are making a political threat.

Farmers are saying over and over how often Trump has come to Iowa and said he loves farmers and ethanol. He was truthful. He never said he likes farmers and ethanol more than Big Oil. A bit of honesty by farmers would be most welcomed.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...&utm_term=hero


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