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sick raghead terrorist 08-07-2012 03:55 PM

Re: Muslims and Sikhs: is there a difference?
 
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Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe (Post 915244)
What if we are right friend, do you want to be part of that 1/3 that Christ Himself will cut down with His own sword and then feed alive to the crows? I think the smart money is on accepting Jesus as your Loving Savior before He kills you.

bring it on bitch, I'll piffleing kill the prick before he even comes close to me. bring it, come on... oh i forgot... he doesn't exist, he's dead! you take the piss out of religions believing in reincarnation, jesus coming back... er... how do you know what he looks like. the bible proves he is black, none of you bastards would accept a black man announcing he is jesus - YOU will kill him before he can kill anyone! haha.

"what if we are right", everything you believe in is a what if! one of you knobs wrote, if a sikh carries a dagger for protection, why doesnt he carry a gun like everyone else... same could be said for jesus and his sword. ooooh, it hurts when you've taken the piss out of something your own lord would do - doesn't it?

there used to be a jehovers witness that used to preach to me that jesus was coming, he was my neighbour. and i used to say, jesus / god is within you all.. if one person came and PROVED he was jesus, none of you would accept it... until he comes, I will carry on practising my own religion, but i have a feeling i'll be waiting a VERY long time.:thumbsup:

Rev. Edward Clement 08-07-2012 03:57 PM

Re: Muslims and Sikhs: is there a difference?
 
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Originally Posted by Cornwallace (Post 915191)
So explain to me which is wrong - Either numbers no longer make intrinsic sense, the Bible has simply been misquoted (in which case I expect the correct quote), or The Bible is not truly the word of God...

All of your nonsense ramblings could have been avoided if you would but just read the entire thread, friend.

1). Your numbers appear to be skewed to your own racist claims and secular false-science. We do not tolerate racism here.

2). We never mis-quote the Bible and we are completely in line with what the Lord commands in His Word©.

3). The Bible is the Word of God because it says so, and that settels it.

Who taught you to hate and fight Jesus friend?

Zechariah Smyth 08-07-2012 03:58 PM

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Jesus is a lot more real than your various possum gods!

:lol:

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Rev. Edward Clement 08-07-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by G0D5-S0N (Post 915265)
the bible proves he is black,

Bible verse and number please.

The Bible does not say anywhere that Jesus was colored.

And friend, I know it is hard for a poorly educated sinner, such as yourself, but can you please stay on topic.

We Glorify Jesus here, not you and the wrong secular lies that you have been taught.

Rev. M. Rodimer 08-07-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornwallace (Post 915191)
There is quite a clear difference to be honest (maybe not to the ignorant, however)

Sikhs have fought to prevent Muslims from taking over the world for a lot longer than you,

Sikhism has existed for about 500 years, Christianity for 2,000 . . . 600 years longer than Islam.

Want to try that again, Sparky?
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Originally Posted by Emmieee1995 (Post 915243)
ok so they carry around knifes with them, does that necrssarily mean they're gonna go round killing people like jasonvorhees???

the answer is NO!! so how about you do some research you racist bastardd!!!

Is Sikh a race now, or do you just not know what "racist" means?
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Originally Posted by G0D5-S0N (Post 915265)
bring it on bitch, I'll piffleing kill the prick before he even comes close to me.

Ah, this must be the "peaceful" nature of the Sikh showing through.

Vicious killers, I see how you really are.
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the bible proves he is black, none of you bastards would accept a black man announcing he is jesus
Chapter and verse, please.

Rev. Edward Clement 08-07-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by G0D5-S0N http://www.landoverbaptist.net/image...s/viewpost.gif
the bible proves he is black,
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Originally Posted by Rev. Edward Clement (Post 915272)
Bible verse and number please.

Still waiting........:yawn:

Cornwallace 08-07-2012 06:13 PM

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Good to know Wikipedia still works. -.- What has the age of a religion got to do with anything I said, Sparky?? Read about the origins of Sikhism before you have another stab at that one you silly boy All of your nonsense ramblings could have been avoided if you would but just read the entire thread, friend.

1) My numbers are quoted directly from your own claims, and your idea that I am racist contradicts your own views - that racism doesn't apply when talking of religion.

2) I didn't say you misquoted the Bible, I asked for a reply about how you manage to defy logic without resorting to quoting an irrelevant reference - which you have been unable to do.

3) That viewpoint is the very thing I am querying, so using it as an argument is completely illogical.

Obviously I have found a flaw in your beliefs and you are unable to say anything with any substance to combat these flaws.

I'm sure that you'll be able to throw some more quotes out though to make yourself feel righteous.

"Speak louder and more clearly than others around you, and they shall be forced to follow" - Cornelius Mole; 2012.

With Love,
Cornflake
Xx

Rev. Edward Clement 08-07-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornwallace (Post 915359)
Good to know Wikipedia still works. -.- What has the age of a religion got to do with anything I said, Sparky?? Read about the origins of Sikhism before you have another stab at that one you silly boy All of your nonsense ramblings could have been avoided if you would but just read the entire thread, friend.

1) My numbers are quoted directly from your own claims, and your idea that I am racist contradicts your own views - that racism doesn't apply when talking of religion.

2) I didn't say you misquoted the Bible, I asked for a reply about how you manage to defy logic without resorting to quoting an irrelevant reference - which you have been unable to do.

3) That viewpoint is the very thing I am querying, so using it as an argument is completely illogical.

Obviously I have found a flaw in your beliefs and you are unable to say anything with any substance to combat these flaws.

I'm sure that you'll be able to throw some more quotes out though to make yourself feel righteous.

"Speak louder and more clearly than others around you, and they shall be forced to follow" - Cornelius Mole; 2012.

With Love,
Cornflake
Xx

Dear my illiterate friend, this is not a place for arguments and we are not having one. Why? Because the Bible is the Truth, and it is Truth because it says it is True, and that settles it.

John
17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

Acts
4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.


Cornwallace 08-07-2012 06:23 PM

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Furthermore, Islamic beliefs come from the same as Christianity; they believe in Jesus, and I would expect someone of your stature to be able to spell settles** :innocent:

Xx

Rev. Edward Clement 08-07-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornwallace (Post 915364)
Furthermore, Islamic beliefs come from the same as Christianity; they believe in Jesus, and I would expect someone of your stature to be able to spell settles** :innocent:

Xx

Apparently, American English is your 5th language; better look again.

Bobby-Joe 08-07-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornwallace (Post 915359)
Good to know Wikipedia still works. -.- What has the age of a religion got to do with anything I said, Sparky?? Read about the origins of Sikhism before you have another stab at that one you silly boy All of your nonsense ramblings could have been avoided if you would but just read the entire thread, friend.

We did. The Sikhs don't even claim their Gurus were even divinely inspired like a prophet. Now what are you talking about since apparently even your co believers don't support you?

Face it, you're just saying random because you are having a hissy fit because this is the first time in your life someone has challenged your beliefs.

And we are still waiting for chapter and verse were it states Jesus is black.

scotty niebuhr 08-07-2012 08:31 PM

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I have never heard such blatant and repulsive intolerance before. Yes I read through your introduction forum, and yes it says that you don't believe in being "politically correct". This has nothing to do with being politically correct, this has to do with absolute preaching of hate. They aren't the same thing. God embraces judgement and punishment not bigotry and prejudice. He is a loving God who holds us accountable for the consequences of our choices. He encourages us to grow up and inspires our cooperation as we do so, while providing the grace to confirm our efforts.

And I hope you truly understand the consequences of your actions of hate and intolerance and the judgement that may come when you're held accountable for your actions. There's always going to be people of different faiths and viewpoints. Your behavior towards them define the quality of your character, and from what i've seen your preaching of hate make you no better than the very people you're condemning. You stoop to the same level as some of the very people you've had insult you here.

God made us in His image, do you really think this is what He had in mind? I think not.

Rev. M. Rodimer 08-07-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornwallace (Post 915359)
Good to know Wikipedia still works. -.- What has the age of a religion got to do with anything I said, Sparky??

You said "Sikhism has been fighting Islam longer than you [Christians]. That is not possible, given that Christianity has been fighting Islam since Islam was invented . . . Which was well before Sikhism was made up.

:dunce:

Bjorn Jensen 08-07-2012 08:37 PM

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Muslim Sikhs protesting in India, just look how peaceful they are :lex_12:
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/po...onsin_massacre

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/files/sikh1.jpg

Bobby-Joe 08-07-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by I am a bum (Post 915415)
Muslim Sikhs protesting in India, just look how peaceful they are :lex_12:
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/po...onsin_massacre

They quickly call for Socialism instead of an end for racism like we TRUE Christians™. Sad really.

Rev. Edward Clement 08-07-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by S. Niebuhr (Post 915410)
They aren't the same thing. God embraces judgement and punishment not bigotry and prejudice.

Friend, it appears as though you are accusing us of bigotry and prejudice. We do not participate in either and we do not tolerate that behavior in this Godly Forum.

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There's always going to be people of different faiths and viewpoints.
And everything was almost going so well for you and you had to go and say something that the Bible does not say, and is jooish in tone.

Matthew
23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Jesus was no fluffy bunny!

23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

We are here and showing you the Word of God and you choose to persecute us.

23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

Why do you hate Jesus so much, friend?

Cornwallace 08-07-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer (Post 915411)
You said "Sikhism has been fighting Islam longer than you [Christians]. That is not possible, given that Christianity has been fighting Islam since Islam was invented . . . Which was well before Sikhism was made up.

:dunce:

For many of the 2000 years of Christianity has there been conflict between Christians and Muslims??

And in the 500 years of Sikhism, how long?

...

Rev. M. Rodimer 08-07-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornwallace (Post 915456)
For many of the 2000 years of Christianity has there been conflict between Christians and Muslims??

And in the 500 years of Sikhism, how long?

...

Christianity (assuming we include Catholics) has fought Islam since it became known.

The first of the Crusades began in 1071. So, while I have no doubt there were previous clashes in the 370+ years preceding (going back to Islam's invention), this is the first I immediately find a record of.

Sikhism was invented in the 1600s. Christianity had already been pitted at war with the Islamofascists for 600 years when your "new" little cult was dreamed up.

Are all Sikhs as bad at math as you?

scotty niebuhr 08-07-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev. Edward Clement (Post 915421)
Friend, it appears as though you are accusing us of bigotry and prejudice. We do not participate in either and we do not tolerate that behavior in this Godly Forum.

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They wear pillowcases on their heads and they come from Islamastan or Hindustan or wherever Muslims come from.


So what are sikhs really? Are they curry-munching cow-worshipping dotheads or pedophile-worshipping terrorists? Or are they something between?

You are nothing close to a US marine.

You piffle assholes.

You lick assholes after you piffleed them.

You piffle dog's assholes.

After that, you invite all your sikh shithead gay boyfriends to piffle the dog's asshole as well... then you suck it clean.

There are so many different kinds of towel heads - Sunny Muslims, Shittight Muslims, Sikh (Sick?), etc. It's hard to tell 'em apart, but since they're all terrorists, I don't think it matters - we just bomb all of them.

Dear Whiney Jew;

Your pals in the (99% queer) SFPD can't touch us.

I'll tell you why: Because they're mudslimes who want to cut your Christian head off!

And then play soccer with it probably.

Who knows how many beautiful Christian White Americans these muzzies would have killed in the name of their false prophet Muhammed (piss be upon him) in order to get their 75 virgins that they think they are going to get in Heaven (which they won't go to anyway even if they believe it) if they kill enough Christian White Americans.
These are words from your own members.

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Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality personal habits, political alignment, race, region, religious or spiritual belief, sex or sexual orientation. Bigotry is sometimes developed into an ideology or world view.
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The word prejudice (or foredeeming) is most often used to refer to preconceived judgments toward people or a person because of gender, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, race/ethnicity, nationality or other personal characteristics. It can also refer to unfounded beliefs and may include "any unreasonable attitude that is unusually resistant to rational influence." Gordon Allport defined prejudice as a "feeling, favorable or unfavorable, toward a person or thing, prior to, or not based on, actual experience."
What you preach is bigotry. What you preach is prejudice. What you preach is hate. There isn't any other way to put it. You may be too far wrapped in your beliefs to comprehend this, but at the end of the day whether you'll admit it or not your words here demonstrate this by definition. Yes there are people from these backgrounds who have committed atrocious acts, and yes according to the teachings of the Bible many of these may be condemned to hell. But that is not your place to judge for yourself the rest who have not committed these acts on God's behalf. You are not omnipotent, you do not know these people.


1 Peter
2:23 When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten, but continued entrusting himself to him who judges justly.
3:8 Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind.
3:9 Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing

Titus
3:1 Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good,
3:2 to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all men.
3:3 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another.

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There's always going to be people of different faiths and viewpoints.
And everything was almost going so well for you and you had to go and say something that the Bible does not say, and is jooish in tone.
Do you really need the bible to inform you that there are other faiths and viewpoints in the world? I considered this an obvious fact of life. Whether I agree with those other viewpoints or if I believe they'll go to hell isn't the question, they're still there. How you treat these people really determines the extent of your following of the our Lord's word. I follow the teachings of the Lord, and if members of my church made comments such as those above I would ashamed, and so should they.


Romans
1:29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
1:30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
1:31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 1:32 although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Not only are most of the statements from your members I listed above prejudice, they're outright slanderous. There may be people who fit these descriptions, but 99% of the San Francisco Police Department, that risk their lives on a daily basis, are not homosexual. Whoever that marine was, was probably not a homosexual. There might be dangerous Sikhs out there, but most probably do not carry their ceremonial blade to kill Christians or want to play soccer with their heads. And it's doubtful any of the victims in the recent Sikh massacre would have gone on to kill anyone.

Yet you claim this. And you support that by not speaking against them. You're no better than them, and they perfectly fit the bible's description; insolent, arrogant, and boastful.




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We are here and showing you the Word of God and you choose to persecute us.


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Why do you hate Jesus so much, friend?


No you pick and choose the passages you want to follow and those you don't. And putting my beliefs in question will earn you no points. Most of your reply had nothing to do with my original statements. You can't deny that your messages are full of hate. As vengeful as He may be, this isn't the Lord's teachings, this is your teachings. Your own twisted interpretation based on prejudice and intolerance. I hope one day you can realize the error of your ways because I truly feel sorry for you and the cold realization you'll feel on Judgement Day when you're left behind for your outright hate. You'll still try to justify your false teachings to yourself, and disregard this as blasphemy. But you know the lies you're spreading, the hateful deceit Satan whispers in your ear to practice such bigotry. You'll know soon enough.

Bobby-Joe 08-07-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornwallace (Post 915456)
For many of the 2000 years of Christianity has there been conflict between Christians and Muslims??

And in the 500 years of Sikhism, how long?

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Since the Arab conquest in 634 AD. Are you even vaguely aware that Egypt, North Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean were Christian during the Later Roman Empire? I would think that point if would be as obvious as your nose since the Holy Land was one of the first targets of the Muslim Jihad and heck, there are Christian communities in India that date back to the Ancient Era.

While you are at it, please meet the Apostle Thomas who died in India in 72AD.

So that is the Muslim attack upon the Easter Orthodox Church in 634 AD, the Muslim invasion of Spain in 711AD

By the times the Moguls were attacking your Sikh ancestors the Spanish had reconquered Spain from the Muslims and it was 500 years after the First Crusade.

Why are you so utterly ignorant of world history? Do you do really think Christianity began with the British Raji?


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