Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)
 

Obama worshipers have been busy for years and years now, destroying our once proud American Christian family values. One of the unfounded myths they have been spreading is that you are not allowed to impregnate your own daughter.

This is of course utter nonsense. The Holy Bible is very clear about impregnating your own daughter being fully allowed!

Lot was a just and righteous man. (2nd Peter 2:7-8) He was the only man that God saved from the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Genesis 19:15) So clearly Lot is the kind of man we should all aspire to be. In Genesis 19:32-36 we can read that Lot impregnated both his virgin daughters. The Bible raises no objections against this. Both had male children who were identified as progenitors of the Moab and Ammon people.

Not all forms of "incest", as hippies like to call it, are allowed though. A mother having sex with her son is, of course, punishable by death (Leviticus 20:11). Just the thought of this is enough to make me puke! :icon8: Having sex with your daughter in law is not allowed either (Leviticus 20:12) as is having sex with both a mother and her daughter (Leviticus 20:14). But clearly there are no objections whatsoever to having sex with your own daughter. Why else, in a perfect Bible, would God give a long list of people forbidden to have sex with and exclude daughters!

There are some mistranslated versions of the Bible where Leviticus 18:6 is twisted into forbidding sex with relatives. Effectively forbidding you to impregnate even your own wife. Fortunately the only true version of God's word, the King James 1611, has no such objections. It just mentions you should not undress your daughter, simply a matter of commanding her to undress herself instead.

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Lol wow I now see why you look like you do...all those years of incest in your family really ruined your DNA...oh I'm sorry DNA is Deoxyribonucleic acid which is the building blocks of life...I'll give you a quick lesson on it...When you bang your daughter, she will have retard babies through inbreeding. And I thought you guys hated retards? Apparently not enough to keep making them in your community ;)

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DNA is a myth. They claim it is too small to see with the naked eye but the truth is it doesn't exist. As the Bible clearly shows there are no disadvantages to impregnating your own daughter.

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Enlightening indeed! But... can you just impregnate your daughter, or do your daughters have to get you drunk and by their drunken fathers help impregenate themselves? As in the story of Lot, Genesis 19:32-36.
I am sorry for asking, but I want to understand so that no one will get mad at me if I say the wrong thing.

Yours in Christ
Elisabeth

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I think it is best to be drunk, just to be on the safe side.

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Cranky Old Man, I too have thought about this passage. His daughters actually instigated the act and gave him wine to get him drunk before they had sex with him. Although he was obviously not drunk enough that he couldn't 'perform' so must have been a willing participant. As you say having sex with their father does not seem to be an issue but I am interested in your thoughts about them plying with drink first. As far as I can see there is no condemnation in Genesis for them doing this.

YiC

Jack

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Ohh I see now. All that inbreeding in your family really did a toll on you and your family, sorry to hear.

How else would they clone a sheep? Oh lemme guess...Satan! Haha I feel sorry for you, I really do!

And what proof do you have that DNA is a myth? Because it's not in the bible? Holy shit, cars aren't in the bible so they must be a myth too? How can you expect for anyone to take you seriously...

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Such language. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

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All sheep look the same. So when someone claims a sheep to be a clone, he is just lying. Probably to steal your tax money for "research". Research with sheep, yeah right.

How can you prove something does not exist!? Please prove to me the Easter Bunny does not exist.

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Hahaha your not disproving DNA with that statement, in fact, your actually helping me by saying DNA is real...Thank you!

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Just a sidenote: Don't tell your wife about what happend or better send her away. My wife goes on vacation 2 times a year which gives me the opportunity to follow in Lots footsteps. I have 2 daughters.

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You already gave the scripture where it says that raping your daughter is wrong. Also, do not interpret the Bible to your liking. Just because Lot impregnated his daughters does not mean it is correct. That is only something you assume. Unless you can provide us with the scripture that says it is good or allowed to rape your daughter(s), then you are wrong. If we could all assume as much as you do then everyone would interpret the Bible and its messages differently.

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In 2nd Peter, scripture tells us that Lot was just.

2 Peter 2:7 (King James Version)

7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

Are you saying that you are right and the Bible is wrong?

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"In Genesis 19:32-36 we can read that Lot impregnated both his virgin daughters. The Bible raises no objections against this. Both had male children who were identified as progenitors of the Moab and Ammon people."
^-- So Moab and Ammon were therefor both inbred and most probably retarded. Sorry to crush your dreams.
P.S Have you ever impregnated your daughter(s)?

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It's wrong to RAPE your daughters, but it's GOOD to impregnate them! And since Lot was the only man who was saved from Sodom and Gomorrah, he must have been a righteous man, alas what he did was right!

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I have serious problems with the title of this thread. Perhaps sometimes a man can impregnate his own daughters and there's no wrong-doing involved, but to simply sum the whole situation up as "NOT rape!" obscures the very real suffering of the many fathers who find themselves forced to impregnate their own daughters. I think we should all take a moment to stop and pray for all the poor, innocent fathers who find themselves the drunken victims of a vicious daughter-rape.

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I had come here to tell you how wrong you were, but for the life of me, I cannot find where it says you cannot uncover your own daughters nakedness. :bad:

Leviticus 18
4Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God.
5Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.
7The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.
9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.
10The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness.
11The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
12Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.
13Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman.
14Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt.
15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
16Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.
17Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.
18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.


Surely, there is something against it.

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Precisely. Also, you claim to follow the Bible to the letter. Yet just now you interpreted something which wasn't clearly said in the Bible. Lot may have been a just man, but that still does not mean impregnating your own daughter is right. Not unless it says so in the Bible, which it doesn't. We have a lot of characters who were just yet they did not impregnate their daughters, are we because of this to assume that impregnating your daughter is not right? No, because it does not say so in the Bible. But because it says Levicitus 18:6 "‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD." it is not right. Also if there was no opinion on the matter, then we would need to follow this:
Romans 13:1
Romans 13:2
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

And in this case it would still be wrong.
Do not make assumptions, follow the Bible and what it says, instead. Only because you wish it said something you'd like does not mean it does.

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Yes, this makes sense as to why not. I looked and looked as to why your own daughter wouldn't be specifically mentioned, but I guess this is it.

I suppose all the rules must have taken place because of the places they were broken in the Bible?

6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.
Lot's daughters.

8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.
Reuben did this to his father's wife. Gen. 35:22

15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
Judah did this. 1 Chronicles 2; Genesis 38.

18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.
Both Jacob/Israel and Esau did this.

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I'm sorry, I'm not sure where you're going with this.

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The United States liberal agenda has turned many astray here, Read that passage again:

Romans 13:1-2 1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

The United States is in a state of political flux for power, Rebellion as we know it come a long way from the ways of our confederate forefathers. Rebellion and resistance is not fought on battlefields anymore. It's fought in courts, in schools, and in politkill rally. This affects Real Christian Values in the home and loins of upstanding Christian Fundamentalist Men.

Accept the Lord in your home and know his power true. You will know it when you see the gleem in your 13 year old daughters eye as she breastfeeds your newborn son.

Now, about this DNA malarchy. The Lord is your Shepard, a good shepard tends to his flock. Haven't you ever been fooled by a magician?

Acts 13 : 6 And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar-jesus

Don't let some money-grubbing trickster with a fake abomination pull the wool over your eyes. The sheep was of the same mother, they fooled the lab results with mirrors and different stages of sheep fetus. The DNA theory is unproven.

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DNA has been proven. Cranky Old Man, are you also going to say that atoms and molecules don't exist too, just because you can't see them with your eyes? Is that how far your ignorance has taken you? Ignoring basic scientific facts, I see. Let me guess. I bet your going to say that germs don't exist, just because they can't be seen with the naked eye. Well guess what, let's assume by YOUR logic that anything that cannot be seen by the naked eye doesn't exist. So would it be true that God does not exist, just because he cannot be seen. You are a world class hypocrite. In fact, there is a thread on this forum about "gay germs".

I HAVE assumed direct control.

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:lol:

Don't be silly. I see God everywhere just by looking around. I have Bible next to me and God wrote that.

How about that direct control thing? You should stop posting while drunk.

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I have made fools of those on the forum. Their confidence, their resolve is gone. They must awaken and realize that their ignorance has led them astray. Bigots, like you, trick yourselves into believing that you are superior. In a world of almost 7 billion humans, will you existence matter? No. I have direct control. When I face your useless arguments, I see you are blind out of your own ignorance.

God did not write the Bible. Man wrote the Bible. Get back to reality.
Grow up.

I don't think a drunk person (like you, no offense) could type paragraphs in almost perfect grammar, much less use a computer.

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Aw, thank you for your persecution. You are just so naive that it is almost cute.

Could you tell me where did my confidence or my resolve went? So far you have only made fool out of yourself. That is very common for teenaged girls.

You see, you think you have control of your life. You think that choices that you make are yours only to make. This however is not the case. Western society gives you little freedom to think that you have control, but that's it. I call it unique snowflake syndrome

You have to go to school, you have to go to work, you have to get money, you have to eat, you have to survive, you have to breath. You have to follow the rules set by the people around you. You can try to fight it screaming and kicking, but it is vain. You have zero control. World will just go on no matter what you do. You won't have any effect on world. You will be forgotten and no one will miss you. You are just one insignificant ant in Gods plan.

You think you are special, but fact is, even in these forums we see dozens of people like you every week. Even here you don’t have any control. You must follow our rules for posting, or you loose your privilege to post here. Most of these unique snowflakes are even much smarter than you and still they don't have any effect on anything, but Jesus has effect on them. Some of these people sees the light and comes to us after rough start.

Romans 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

It was Jesus who guided you here.

Yours in Christ,

Alphonse

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You can assume what you want, you have no control. I think most of us who looked at you message saw such weak childish arguments that we just moved on to find someone more intelligent to converse with. The issue wasn't confidence or resolve it was just boredom.

YiC

Jack

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Are you trying to prove sorcery like Bar-jesus? Have you counted all the people in the world to know theres 7 billion? I think an overal ignorance about God's plan has lead you astray. I will pray for your salvation.

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It's called fact, smart one. There is an estimated 6.801 (almost 7) billion people in the world.

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I'm hope I'm no holding the wrong end of the point but
Ok, since you're so sex-obsesionate whit the sex and stuffs, 7 billions of people - came from how many esperms? Asnwer to that.
YIC Mari.

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Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

First you, clear as day tell me that there's 7 billion people on God's green earth. When confronted with the truth your facts change to suit you, just like Darwin confessing on his death bed it was all a lie. what does the word "estimated" mean? As a firm believer in Christ, I can tell you it means make believe. Only God knows.

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Okay, just to make myself clear, I said ALMOST 7 BILLION. Not 7 billion. My source comes from the world bank.
If you want the number found in 2009, it's an estimated 6,775,235,741.
Google "Earth's population". You'll find it. When did I ever change my facts. The world population has always been a pretty close estimate.

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I have 2 posts on this sight and already know this topic is against the rules, As impregnating your daughter is an offence (in which ever country you are from) and it is pushing for people to do this, your own blood should not be mixed with your own blood. :thumbdown:

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Okay, just to make myself clear, I said ALMOST 7 BILLION. Not 7 billion. My source comes from the world bank.
If you want the number found in 2009, it's an estimated 6,775,235,741.
Google "Earth's population". You'll find it. When did I ever change my facts. The world population has always been a pretty close estimate.

There go those words again. "Estimate" and "almost". You need to get right with Jesus. I will ask my family to pray for you.

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Hey sir, get this message:
STFU, you're making a big deal out of nothing. Also, it's not rape. It's incest.

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Son, you need to find a church and seek council with a pastor or elder about your life, and pray to Jesus you can be saved.

We Teach Gods Law here as read in the American King James Version of the Bible. His Law is the Way and the Light.

Also, 'Junk'man, did you know heroin was put here for you to resist and help you on the path?

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You need stop raging, bro.

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I don't see any rage in Brother Percivals reply? He only gives you some kind advice so that you can be Saved!
I will pray for you!

Yours in Christ
Elisabeth

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Has it occured to you that the "junk" in my name might have something to do with my tiny man twizzler, and not an over dependence on herion ;) think about it

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Raging? Like this nerd rage?

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I doesn't matter. This guy won't shut up about the difference between estimate and almost. Two very different things.