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This false accusation has been addressed in this thread already. Please familiarize yourself with the issue before commenting.

:)

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Really? Then why are dowries and/or bride prices LEGAL in almost every jurisdiction worldwide?

Oh, and thanks for reading the whole thread. This point has been covered dozens of times. But, hey, everybody else should bend over backwards on your account because WE'RE responsible for curing YOUR ignorance, right? :thumbdown:

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It will never be said enough.

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You're mistaken, dear, which makes your comment superfluous to the actual topic of this thread.

Please, do try and keep up.

:)

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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Do you know who said that? Joseph Goebbels. Look him up.

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The legal part is when the person is willingly puttig his/her own self to be a mail-order-bride/husband. In other words, when the person is an adult.

When it is kid that is beig put for sell, by his parents, unwilligly (which means that the kid is forced and is left with out any choice), then it is human trafficking.

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FTFY. :thumbdown:

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Tell that to the many cultures of contemporary world that today practice arranged marriages, including the following countries:

India
Nepal
Sri Lanca
Pakistan
Bangladesh
China

You can read more about arranged marriages on this website:
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/...anged_marriage

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And all the countries that people from those cultures have emigrated to, because the police can't investigate crimes that no one reports (and most people don't turn themselves in to the cops).

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You can add the Islamic Republic of Birmingham to that list.

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Please pay attention. We are talking about daughters here, not humans.

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Well if she disagrees, when the Pastor asks her to say "I do" she just has to say "no", end of ceremony. Oh and she can refuse to sign the marriage license application.

Where in the Bible does it say that daughters are not human?

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The Bible is very clear on this matter, friend, because the Lord does not consider them worthy of being counted.

Numbers
1:2 Take ye the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, after their families, by the house of their fathers, with the number of their names, every male by their polls;

The Lord specifically refuses to mention women here.

This should be very clear to you now, such as clearness is considered clear by those with the clearness to understand what the Lord explicitly says, clearly.

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Didn't include male children under the age of of 20 either, but that doesn't stop you from considering foetuses as human.

Numbers 1:3 From twenty years old and upward, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel: thou and Aaron shall number them by their armies.

No taking things out of context, remember? :nono:

Oh and according to Leviticus, women may be worth less than a man, but they're not worth as little as a male child.

Leviticus 27

3 And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.

4 And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.

5 And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

7 And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

Well, it seems that a woman of child bearing years is worth twice what an old man is worth.

Before anyone gives me another infraction, check your Bibles. If you disagree with me, you're disagreeing with your own God.

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Oh, I'm sorry, is it males under the age of 20 that aren't worth counting? or is it the males under a month of age

Numbers 3:15 Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them.

Or are Levi's children worth less than anyone elses?

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Speaking of context, remember, the Head of the Household OWNS everyone in his household. So, you still cannot see what is clear, friend. However, because males are mentioned, and females are not mentioned, women are not human, as Brother Cranky noted.

Only animals seek to sleep with other animals(atheists, agnostics, false-Christians are in that same category), unless their husbands tighten the reigns.

Leviticus
20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

We are always right:

Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Truly, your persecution not only confirms our Rightness, but provides evidence that Jesus is soon to Return.

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Stop straying off topic, friend.

Now specifically, it is also not only well know that daughters are not human because they are the result of the fact that there was no bestial helpmeet for Adam, which he discovered while he was naming cattle.

Genesis
2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

I guess you missed this in your poor attempt at Bible reading, but that is to be expected because you are blind, friend.

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You are ***potty word *** sick. Your daughter isn't an item shes a person. Your a ***potty word *** criminal and you poison any holy water you touch. ***potty word *** Disgrace.

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?
 

Please watch the language.

And "holy water" ??? We're aren't filthy catlicks, friend!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

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Such language, obviously a man of very few words.

Friend, we are not catlickers here, we are Baptists. I suppose you had trouble reading the Name of our Church, which is Landover Baptist Church.

Deuteronomy

28:27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.
28:28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:

I suppose that you have a fiery case of hemorrhoids as well.

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Wanted to correct myself here. Since Levi's children were worth counting from one month of age or older, and nobody elses was worth counting until their 20, then Levis children were worth MORE not less.

my mistake.

So you're completely ignoring the fact that God considers a woman of child bearing years worth double what he considers an old man.

Leviticus 27:4 4 And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.

Leviticus 27:7 And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

Wow dude, you need to calm down. Calling other people animals? What does god say that you should do with a "stranger"?

Exodus 22:21 Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Exodus 23:9 Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Zechariah 7:10 And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart.


Okay, not sure what this is about. But if a woman wasnt a person, why would your God care about what she slept with? I see mules mentioned in the Bible and they're caused by a horse "sleeping with" a donkey.

1 Kings 18:5 And Ahab said unto Obadiah, Go into the land, unto all fountains of water, and unto all brooks: peradventure we may find grass to save the horses and mules alive, that we lose not all the beasts.


What did Jesus mean when he said "become as little children"? Did he mean stamp your feet and have a tempertantrum when your shown up?

Hey, I'm not claiming to be no genius. Im a simple man trying to walk the middle path.

You have all of this saved to your computer, don't ya :lol:

Then why does god say that a woman between 20 and 60 is worth twice what the old man is worth? Why does he make up rules for women? He says a woman shouldn't lie with a beast (quoted above) but he has no problem with a beast lying with a beast, or else how do you get mules?

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Your interest in animal sex is soooo typical of the average Jesus-hating "furry."

:thumbdown:

YiC,

Zech

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Nope, not a furry either.

Love how you ignore the parts of the Bible you don't like then call me a cherry picker. :lol:

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I love every part of the Bible.

:wub:

You are trying (and failing) to use the Bible to justify your perversions.

(2 Corinthians 11:14) "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

YiC,

Zech

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What perversions? You're seeing things that just aint there.

Are you saying I'm an "angel of light"?

I'm not the one saying other people are animals, or that women aren't human. You're twisting the Bible, which is what you get so upset about, then having a freakout when people point out that women are indeed not "worthless" nor are they "animals".

Oh and the "be kind to strangers part". You seem to have missed that part of the Bible as well.

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No, he's saying you're trying to transform yourself into an "angel of light", where the Bible also warns them of "wolves in sheep's clothing".

Didn't Buddha say something about "trust not the man who has found the truth, but the man who is still searching"?

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Has that young lady not been sold yet? Well, I don't wish to be forward, but I think that some serious prayer is called for.

Perhaps the Lord has some specific plan in mind for the girl. Maybe she will come in handy as a means of diverting the attentions of a lustful crowd from some important male guests of her father's household. . . She IS still a virgin, isn't she?


Consideringly Yours,

Handmaiden

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Well, I was 30 and not technically a virgin when I met Seth, so who knows what God's plan is. I had pretty much given up and decided on a life of spinsterhood when what fell into my lap! :innocent:

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The only thing I remember Buddha saying is, "Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm".

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A middle path, oh you silly budda worshippers. :rofl:

Friend, therein is the problem. You are walking a lukewarm path and in walking this abominable path, you cannot see and the Lord's Wrath is upon you.

The Bible says so.

Matthew

7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Revelation
3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

You are against what Jesus said:

Mark
12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Thus, you cannot see what the Word clearly says because your mind has NOT been renewed. Thus, you cannot place any judgment upon a True-Christian™ because you cannot judge correctly; that, and you are trying to make a private interpretation of the Bible which is forbidden.

Romans
12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1 Corinthians
2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Thus, your judgment falls on your own chin while you speak it in the chinny tone that you take, friend. It is very apparent why you worship budda now.

2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

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FTFY. :lol:

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Oh friend, :lol: we are not upset, you are a chin-man attempting to read the Powerful Word of God. It is expected that the Chinese demons that you harbor would get a bit riled up when you are confront with Jesus.

Hebrews
4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Friend, we are working while resting in Him, here.

2 Timothy
1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Hebrews
4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

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you realise that God didn't actually write the bible right....?

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The people who wrote the Bible were inspired by The Lord.

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No, he dictated it.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.

You should actually read the Bible and back up your claims with scripture instead of making a fool out of yourself.

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What a disgusting thing to say: you demote her to something worthless? Was that a joke?

Very poor form, that man: shame on you :nono:

YIC

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What is he? Some sort of cave-man?

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Okay, and?

The point of this thread is for you to be a jerk, huh? It's working big time.

You ARE a jerk.

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The point of this thread is to ask a question and to highlight a biblical principle, as well as underscore how our modern society has moved away from honoring a book where men and women/boys and girls are sold like property.

Granted, there may not be as much of a need for human trafficking today, but when you oppose it, you deny God and what His Word says and damn your soul in the process (and make an ass of yourself in so doing).

Pastor Ed