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Basilissa 09-14-2019 10:01 PM

College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
Over the summer, there was this small thing, people got really hyped over what some rich parents paid in order for their children to get decent education.
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The billionaire Chinese family of former Stanford sophomore Yusi Zhao paid $6.5 million — the largest known sum in the college admissions scandal uncovered by Operation Varsity Blues — to secure her admission to Stanford.
Yusi’s father, Tao Zhao, is the chairman and co-founder of multibillion-dollar pharmaceutical company Shandong Buchang, based in Heze, China.
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No big deal - I mean, in this country, you get as good education as you can pay for, so it's only natural that millionaires pay millions of dollars, right?

Moreover, we all know that education is not even worth the trouble. Reading wears out the flesh and keeps us away from our human duty to fear God and keep His Commandments:

Ecclesiastes 12:12-13
12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.


Even worse, universities often teach students the forbidden fruit of logic and critical thinking - and just think what could happen if one applies such abominations to the Holy Bible! Oh the horror!

That's why God tells us to trust Him, and not logic:

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Anyway. For reasons which I do not understand, some parents do anything for their children to go to college, and now one of the parents involved in this made up "scandal" has been sentenced to 14 days in prison.

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Felicity Huffman is inspiring outrage after the actress was sentenced Friday to 14 days in prison for her role in a brazen college admissions scandal, in which involving rich and famous families funneled cash to fixers to help their children get into the nation's most prestigious colleges and universities.
“Who will learn less? Felicity Huffman after 14 days in prison or her child after 4 years in college?” asked comedian, writer and producer Neal Brennan, while another social media user got in on the jokes with this line: “I could buy milk when #FelicityHuffman goes to jail and it would still be good when she’s released.”
Huffman, 56, was also given a $30,000 fine, one year of probation and 250 hours of community service for paying $15,000 to have her daughter’s SAT scores corrected. She must report to a facility chosen by the federal Bureau of Prisons on Oct. 25 and has asked to do her time at an all-female facility closer to her home in Southern California.:link:
There are more comments in the link, which somehow relate this harsh sentence to Huffman's "white privilege" and say that she should have received an even harsher sentence:

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Popular TV judge, Greg Mathis, pointed out:
“Actress Felicity Huffman got 14 days in prison for paying $15,000 to boost her child’s SAT scores in a college admissions scam. Remember when a Black homeless woman named Tanya McDowell got 5 YEARS for using the wrong address to put her son in kindergarten? Why the difference?SMH,” Mathis lamented.
Many people on social media expressed how they felt Huffman's "white privilege" and celebrity status greatly influenced her sentencing.
"If only Black and Latinx Americans knew what it was like to serve 2 weeks for committing a felony," wrote a critic.
Another said: "Felicity Huffman needs to spend at least 14 months in prison not 14 days. She thinks she is above the average American & her fame & her wealth makes her privileged. If she was black or brown & poor she would have gotten 5 years at least."
"A man spent 36 years in prison for stealing $50 from a bakery. Felicity Huffman got 14 days," CNN and "The View" contributor Ana Navarro-Cardenas pointed out.
Now, that's just plain stupid. Yes the woman should be punished (duh - for trying to send her daughter to college rather than getting her married ASAP and thus helping her to achieve Salvation, 1 Tim 2:15), but comparing what she did, to a man stealing $50 from a bakery, now, that is outrageous! :nono: She didn't steal anything, she was just spreading her wealth. I thought liberals liked it when rich people spread their wealth? :huh:

Johny Joe Hold 09-14-2019 11:41 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
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Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1257772)
That's why God tells us to trust Him, and not logic:

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

I thought liberals liked it when rich people spread their wealth? :huh:

Liberals should be delighted she sent big bucks so her daughter can become a follower of Satan. This is much to do about nothing.

Think of the donation that must have been given Yale before our beloved President W. Bush was admitted. Then he became our second most Christian President (after Donald Trump). Donations tied to admitting our children can be a win win.

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 09-15-2019 06:53 AM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
This is quite an interesting feature of the story:

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The billionaire Chinese family of former Stanford sophomore Yusi Zhao paid $6.5 million — the largest known sum in the college admissions scandal uncovered by Operation Varsity Blues — to secure her admission to Stanford.
I guess that "former" means the student was expelled and deported? I wonder whether her parents got a refund of part of the $6.5 million. They shouldn't, obviously - I mean it was a gift, right? But it strikes me that this is quite a useful way for second- and third-rate universities like Stanford and Yale to fund themselves, if only they had the sense to cut out the middle-men.

Social Construct 09-15-2019 12:45 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
Obviously this made-up "scandal" is meant to distract from racial issues by pitting classes against each other. They wants us to play the blame game, arguing over which class is creating a hereditary aristocracy that will misrule the nation even worse than their parents did. But remember that the goal is to make people forget white supremacy's denial of basic human rights to students, such as gluten-free water and organic dry cleaning.


IN 2019!:angry::angry::angry:

Dr. Anthony J. Toole 09-15-2019 04:47 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1257773)
Think of the donation that must have been given Yale before our beloved President W. Bush was admitted. Then he became our second most Christian President (after Donald Trump). Donations tied to admitting our children can be a win win.

Proof that the system works. Rich white kids that have poor grades need a hand out too, not just poor minorities. If President Bush hadn't been gifted all the advantages he would never have become President.

handmaiden 09-15-2019 06:16 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
"Actress Felicity Huffman got 14 days in prison for paying $15,000 to boost her child’s SAT scores in a college admissions scam. Remember when a Black homeless woman named Tanya McDowell got 5 YEARS for using the wrong address to put her son in kindergarten?"
So this homeless person was rewarded with five years of food and shelter?
That's a heckova "punishment."

Basilissa 09-15-2019 06:43 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1257773)
Think of the donation that must have been given Yale before our beloved President W. Bush was admitted. Then he became our second most Christian President (after Donald Trump). Donations tied to admitting our children can be a win win.

Well, the Bush family did it the legal way:

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Bush never released his high-school grades from Andover — an elite New England prep school that his father had also attended — or his SAT scores. But when The New Yorker got hold of Bush’s Yale records, it discovered that he scored a 566 on the verbal SAT and a 640 on the math SAT — 180 points below the median score for his Yale classmates.

From what is known about Bush’s academic performance at Andover, it is doubtful that he would have been admitted to Yale unless his father (at the time a Texas businessman running for the U.S. Senate in a race he eventually lost) and grandfather (Prescott Bush, a former Republican U.S. senator who represented Connecticut from 1952 to 1962) had been Yalies (from, respectively, the classes of 1948 and 1917). In fact, as a student, Bush studied in the Yale library’s Prescott Walker Bush Memorial Wing.
:link:
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Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey (Post 1257777)
This is quite an interesting feature of the story:

I guess that "former" means the student was expelled and deported? I wonder whether her parents got a refund of part of the $6.5 million. They shouldn't, obviously - I mean it was a gift, right? But it strikes me that this is quite a useful way for second- and third-rate universities like Stanford and Yale to fund themselves, if only they had the sense to cut out the middle-men.

Well, the thing is that there seems to be a line between:

1) An individual donating a library or a hall to a university with an unspoken agreement that the university will, in turn, admit the child of the donor. This is 100% legal and happens all the time at all "Ivy League" American universities.

And:

2) An individual donating money to someone who works at a university with an explicit agreement that the university will admit the child of the donor. This seems to be illegal, and I think all the fuss is because the university administration feels butthurt that the institution did not get a cut of the deal.

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Originally Posted by handmaiden (Post 1257790)
"Actress Felicity Huffman got 14 days in prison for paying $15,000 to boost her child’s SAT scores in a college admissions scam. Remember when a Black homeless woman named Tanya McDowell got 5 YEARS for using the wrong address to put her son in kindergarten?"
So this homeless person was rewarded with five years of food and shelter?
That's a heckova "punishment."

Excellent point, Sister! :thumbsup:

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 09-15-2019 06:47 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handmaiden (Post 1257790)
"Actress Felicity Huffman got 14 days in prison for paying $15,000 to boost her child’s SAT scores in a college admissions scam. Remember when a Black homeless woman named Tanya McDowell got 5 YEARS for using the wrong address to put her son in kindergarten?"
So this homeless person was rewarded with five years of food and shelter?
That's a heckova "punishment."


Not to mention that she didn't have to worry about feeding, educating and taking care of her (no doubt unwashed and feral) child for 5 years, because he would be put in a children's home or something. How much is that worth in taxpayers' dollars? Honestly, these people have got it made! They're just gaming the liberal system for all they're worth and they make me sick. :thumbdown:

handmaiden 09-15-2019 07:25 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
Honestly, the whole "scandal" would have been overlooked if it weren't an otherwise slow news cycle.

WilliamJenningsBryan 09-16-2019 04:08 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
It seems we're inundated with spoiled brats these days - like that Swedish socialist brat Greta Thunberg who bills herself as some kind of entitled munchkin that needs to address the UN on "climate change" without even graduating high school. Somewhere along the line her parents missed thrashing her within an inch of her life.

Cutting in line these days seems to be an epidemic - which in itself is a reason for citizens to be armed. Of course try and tell that to socialist "Breadline" Bernie Sanders - standing in line is a favorite pastime for communists, unless you're a member of the politburo.

Quote:

But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.

- Luke 14:10
The most obvious thing in this "scandal" is why we haven't seen any of these college administrators be sentenced to jail. It seems to be dependant on where you stand on the "minimum wage".

Take for example albino Injun Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren who was paid $430,000 a year at Harvard. These colleges need money - in order to lecture their students on "albino privilege", and what it's like to suffer discrimination from being an albino injun, minimum wage, and "gender" studies.

Unless you want your men to grow up to be toxic emasculated soy boys and your women to be pussy hat wearing bug eyed buck toothed witches, you will send them to a True Christian™ Landover Baptist University where they will learn the Bible (KJV1611) and tithing (Leviticus 27:30).

James Hutchins 09-17-2019 05:27 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
I just want to point out that not a single case of admissions scandal was perpetrated at Liberty University.

I have never heard of a single case of any Pastor getting his Doctorate of Theology though any means other than hard work and unerring dedication to God.
:jesus:

Virginia Day Templeton 09-22-2019 09:38 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handmaiden (Post 1257790)
"Actress Felicity Huffman got 14 days in prison for paying $15,000 to boost her child’s SAT scores in a college admissions scam. Remember when a Black homeless woman named Tanya McDowell got 5 YEARS for using the wrong address to put her son in kindergarten?"
So this homeless person was rewarded with five years of food and shelter?
That's a heckova "punishment."

I had to do a bit of Googling, because I thought Felicity Huffman was black. It must be the name. Sounds very much like the name of a black woman from, say, the 90s, before those ridiculous names like Lashelle, Rayquaza, Shobeequa, etc became the norm.

But no, she appears to be 100% white and that means any good thing that happens to her (and I'm still waiting to hear what's so wonderful about two weeks in PRISON surrounded by tattooed dykes, gang members, and all sorts of "bad mamacitas") is a result of her "white privilege." Oh, and she also played a transgender in the 2005 movie Transamerica. I think that's what they're really mad about. You can't play one of those unless you actually are one (how do they know she isn't?) because apparently an actor's job is no longer to act but to "explore the lived experience of zir intersectional identity" or some such absolute nonsense.

Also, keep in mind that she paid for the SAT score. She didn't get it for free. Maybe that's the difference in how the law treated her compared to that homeless thuggette who I doubt ever gave a dime to anyone that wasn't a liquor store clerk.

Johny Joe Hold 10-10-2019 03:53 AM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
I worry about how this scandal will affect President Trump's youngest child, Barron. Under normal rules, the rules followed until all of this blew up, Barron would simply apply at one the famous Ivy League universities and show up. His application would have been preceded by a large gift from his parents, that gift would pay for a new library or whatever was needed.

Now, however, he might be at a disadvantage. If he decides to wait until college to really lean in on his studies, or even wait until after college, his career might be compromised. Hopefully, this will all blow over soon and expensive universities can return to practical rules of admission.

Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S. 10-10-2019 01:24 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
This whole scandal has really been quite hilarious to those of us in the academic fields. These secular institutions have really worked themselves up a lather in how to deal with this; on the one hand, they cry crocodile tears about "what about the poors?!", but on the other hand, they cash the checks and deposit it into the same accounts that were built on exclusion, racism and elitism.


This is what happens when you lose your moral compass. We at Landover University have never had any qualms about accepting money from those blessed enough to afford for their child to come forward. Whether it's $50k or $5m, there is no gift for Jesus too small, and if it happens to move the needle on accepting the youngster, what does that matter? Jesus never said "10%, no more", did He? No! Give what you can--if it's 100% of your piggy bank or 5% of your $10b fortune, you should give it!


We here at Landover have yet to receive a check from the Trumps that I am aware of, but we do appreciate our President's tax advantages and monetize them accordingly :wub:.

Basilissa 10-10-2019 02:11 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
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Originally Posted by Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S. (Post 1258686)
Jesus never said "10%, no more", did He? No! Give what you can--if it's 100% of your piggy bank or 5% of your $10b fortune, you should give it!

Amen, preach it, Brother! This is exactly what the story of the Poor Widow tells us:

Mark 12:41-44
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.

It is totally OK for the poor to give to Church 100% of what they own - spend all of their money on the Church rather than on food and shelter. Who would care about food insecurity when one's eternal life is at stake? :thumbsup:

James Hutchins 10-10-2019 06:42 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1258675)
I worry about how this scandal will affect President Trump's youngest child, Barron. Under normal rules, the rules followed until all of this blew up, Barron would simply apply at one the famous Ivy League universities and show up. His application would have been preceded by a large gift from his parents, that gift would pay for a new library or whatever was needed.

Now, however, he might be at a disadvantage. If he decides to wait until college to really lean in on his studies, or even wait until after college, his career might be compromised. Hopefully, this will all blow over soon and expensive universities can return to practical rules of admission.

I do not think a gift to a school, one that is able to be used by all members is a bad thing. Quite the contrary, like a gift to the Church does not mean automatic admittance to Heaven. When we give a minimum of 10% of our pretax income to the Church, we are not giving it to the Pastor via the Cayman Islands. That would be wrong.

I know we have members of the flock that are very well off and donate vast sums of tax deductible funds and securities every year on December 30th. They are not dropping off pallets full of cash in non-sequential bills at some warehouse leased in a Pastors name.
Our Platinum Club members get insignificant thank yous for their generosity. A reserved parking spot.A seat in their own pew.Not a slot to Heaven. That is a gift from God.
I am sure colleges are already fighting over having Baron attend. That handsome young man, with a brilliant mind for learning, why he'd be a shining star 'in the quad'. I do not thing that DJT would ever sullen his hands with transfers of sweaty cash.


Get noticed, make your tax deductible gift to LBC today, put in the memo field 'Pastors Discretionary Fund' so as to enable the money to do the work most needed.

Johny Joe Hold 10-21-2019 12:12 AM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
The only hopeful thing about these celebs doing time for no good reason is that it brings them publicity. We have to remember what happened to Martha Stewart after her prison time. She made more money after prison than she did before.

I'd never heard of Felicity Huffman. She is a reality star now doing time. But, here she is in the news, picture and all, in prison. She can write a book, do a lecture tour on prison life and star again in her own show. Big bucks are coming:


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Dr. Anthony J. Toole 07-30-2020 09:06 PM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1259045)
The only hopeful thing about these celebs doing time for no good reason is that it brings them publicity. We have to remember what happened to Martha Stewart after her prison time. She made more money after prison than she did before.

I'd never heard of Felicity Huffman. She is a reality star now doing time. But, here she is in the news, picture and all, in prison. She can write a book, do a lecture tour on prison life and star again in her own show. Big bucks are coming:

I thought profiting from a crime was supposed to be wrong. They should go back and confiscate Martha's Vineyand and all her other properties as the proceeds of a criminal enterprise.

In fact, isn't a person's entire life afterwards in some sense a form of profit? Wouldn't it be better, morally, to use the death penalty more liberally, I mean on more liberals who break the law. I think that is consistent from an ethical perspective.

Johny Joe Hold 08-01-2020 01:37 AM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
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Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole (Post 1271683)
I thought profiting from a crime was supposed to be wrong.
In fact, isn't a person's entire life afterwards in some sense a form of profit? Wouldn't it be better, morally, to use the death penalty more liberally, I mean on more liberals who break the law. I think that is consistent from an ethical perspective.

This Felicity woman served two weeks last fall and is out. To me it seems like two weeks was too stiff. She was trying to get her daughters into better colleges. If they got in, they paid more taxes. It seem counterintuitive to send her to prison when she was serving the greater good. And, she paid plenty to hire someone to take their SAT tests. There are different ways of looking at ethical perspectives.

Dr. Anthony J. Toole 08-01-2020 04:04 AM

Re: College admissions scandal sentencing: should Christians care?
 
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1271765)
And, she paid plenty to hire someone to take their SAT tests. There are different ways of looking at ethical perspectives.

What!? A job creator?! Give that woman a tax cut on tuition.


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