Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness
 

You may have heard of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), sometimes also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME), post-viral fatigue syndrome (PVFS) or chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome (CFIDS). It's the perfect illness to fake if you don't want to work. Simply mimic a collection of vague, subjective symptoms, shop around for a doctor who will give you the diagnosis you want, and sit back and watch your Social Security money roll in.

But even some secular doctors don't believe in CFS. It is, and always has been, a controversial diagnosis. There is no test or scan that can prove you have it and secular scientists can't even agree on what causes it or how to treat it -- which is exactly what you'd expect if it doesn't exist. As a good theoscientist, I won't accept the existence of something without evidence.

So what causes CFS? Let's look at the symptoms for clues (theoscientific explanation in red).

1. Fatigue Laziness
   
2. Loss of memory or concentration Laziness with comorbid retardation
   
3. Sore throat Psychosomatic
   
4. Enlarged lymph nodes in your neck or armpits Psychosomatic
   
5. Unexplained muscle pain Psychosomatic
   
6. Pain that moves from one joint to another without swelling or redness Definitely psychosomatic
   
7. Headache of a new type, pattern or severity Psychosomatic
   
8. Unrefreshing sleep Laziness
   
9. Extreme exhaustion lasting more than 24 hours after physical or mental exercise Laziness

As you can see, three of the symptoms are caused by laziness and the others are imaginary. According to the secular Wickedpedia, additional symptoms may include:

1. Muscle weakness Laziness
   
2. Increased sensitivity to light, sounds and smells Psychosomatic
   
3. Orthostatic intolerance Don't know what that is, so it's probably fake too
   
4. Digestive disturbances Possibly genuine, but nothing that can't be fixed by prayer and laxatives/ Immodium; certainly no excuse not to work
   
5. Depression (Another fake illness) Laziness
   
6. Painful and often slightly swollen lymph nodes Psychosomatic
   
7. Cardiac and respiratory problems Psychosomatic

As I have demonstrated, the underlying motive for pretending to have CFS is laziness. In order to be diagnosed with the "disease" one must lie to or deceive oneself or a doctor about having the imaginary symptoms. Laziness and lying are not illnesses; they are sins.


What the Bible says about laziness

Proverbs 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:

Proverbs 10:4-5 He becometh poor that dealeth with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich. He that gathereth in summer is a wise son: but he that sleepeth in harvest is a son that causeth shame.

Proverbs 10:26 As vinegar to the teeth, and as smoke to the eyes, so is the sluggard to them that send him.

Proverbs 12:24 The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.

Proverbs 12:27 The slothful man roasteth not that which he took in hunting: but the substance of a diligent man is precious.

Proverbs 13:4 The soul of the sluggard desireth, and hath nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat.

Proverbs 14:23 In all labour there is profit: but the talk of the lips tendeth only to penury.

Proverbs 18:9 He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster.

Proverbs 19:15 Slothfulness casteth into a deep sleep; and an idle soul shall suffer hunger.

Proverbs 20:4 The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; therefore shall he beg in harvest, and have nothing.

Proverbs 20:13 Love not sleep, lest thou come to poverty; open thine eyes, and thou shalt be satisfied with bread.

Proverbs 21:25 The desire of the slothful killeth him; for his hands refuse to labour.

Proverbs 24:30-34
30 I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;
31 And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down.
32 Then I saw, and considered it well: I looked upon it, and received instruction.
33 Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
34 So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth; and thy want as an armed man.

Proverbs 26:13-16
13 The slothful man saith, There is a lion in the way; a lion is in the streets.
14 As the door turneth upon his hinges, so doth the slothful upon his bed.
15 The slothful hideth his hand in his bosom; it grieveth him to bring it again to his mouth.
16 The sluggard is wiser in his own conceit than seven men that can render a reason.

Ecclesiastes 10:18 By much slothfulness the building decayeth; and through idleness of the hands the house droppeth through.

Romans 12:11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;

Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Hebrews 6:12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.


The penalty for laziness

The penalty for laziness is starvation (2 Thes 3:10) and shunning (2 Thes 3:14). If this fails to produce repentance, then the lazy man is no better than an unbeliever (1 Tim 5:8) and will be damned to eternal torment (Mat 25:30).

2 Thessalonians 3:10-14
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.

1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Matthew 25:26-30
26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


What the Bible says about hard work

God commands hard work and self-reliance, and not doing what God says is sinning by omission (Jas 4:17).

Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

Colossians 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

1 Thessalonians 4:10-12
10 And indeed ye do it toward all the brethren which are in all Macedonia: but we beseech you, brethren, that ye increase more and more;
11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.


What the Bible says about lying

Lev 19:11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

Prov 6:16-19
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Prov 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight.

Prov 13:5 A righteous man hateth lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and cometh to shame.

Jn 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

Col 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;


The penalty for lying

God will destroy liars.

Ps 5:6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Liars will find themselves locked out of the heavenly city.

Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


Final exhortation

So you see, CFS is incompatible with True Christianity™ and eternal salvation. If you claim to have CFS and want to avoid the fires of hell, you must repent of your slothful, deceitful ways and embrace the Baptist work ethic. But please don't try to convince us that your fake illness exists.

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness
 

Very insightful, Sir Pendergast.

There are a hand full of disorders out there that are just as made up. The one that boils my blood the most is Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). To me, this is just a code acronym for "I don't feel like, or I'm afraid of, controlling my hellbound children, so I'll try to get a doctor to prescribe her/him medicine to do it for me".

What the word says about disciplining your children:

- Proverbs 23:13-14

13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

What children are to do anyway
- Ephesians 6:1-3

1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;
3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

If you don't discipline them yourself, you hate your children AND you hate the Lord

- Proverbs 13:24
24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.


These disorders just give folks a reason to drop their accountability. I wish more people would realize that the road to Salvation is not always an easy one, but it's very well worth it. Your shortcomings don't need a diagnosis. Surrender yourself to the Almighty, you will surely be delivered. Glory!
:praise: :yahoo:

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I always thought Jesus said "judge not others less you yourself be judged" as summed up in the following poems:

Believe ME

ME is an illness so diverse,
From which it is said, “Many a life becomes worse”.
“It’s all in the mind” others say.
And simply look the other way.
Yet when Jesus went among the poor.
The sick, the blind the lame.
Never once did he ask,
From where their affliction came.
He said “come forward and a cure I will give to thee”.
So if Jesus believed them,
Why don’t you believe ME?


Gift

If I had the power of Jesus,
I would ease your pain.
If I had the power of Jesus,
I’d make you well again.
If I had the power of Jesus,
I would make you whole.
If I had the power of Jesus,
I’d heal your body and soul.

But I have no such power,
A gift from God above.
But the gift that I can give you,
Is the gift of LOVE.

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John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

:innocent:

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Well done, Trev! You overcame your laziness for long enough to post that, thus proving Dr Pendergast's point. But you really should have taken the time to post it in the appropriate area of these Godly forums, which is in The Poetaster's Corner.

But you seem like a friendly fellow. :thumbsup: So, now that you are here, we would love to get to know you. Why not post an introduction in the Introduction Forum. There are instructions there - please take the time to read and follow them.

Yours in Faith,
Joanna

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Welcome to the forum, Trev. A lot of people quote that verse out of context. They think that when Jesus was telling people not to judge hypocritically, He was telling them not to judge all. It is the most misunderstood passage in all the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5).

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Hi Joanna
There was no lazyness to overcome, I am fit and well, it is a family member who has ME and I have first hand of the devastating illness that it is, i have often been at loggerheads with the establishment over it and that includes the ME establishment.
Who would be lazy and give up a well paid job to live on benefits and struggle, who would be lazy and not enjoy things they used to, I have seen it all and shared the frustration of people losing friends.
Yes I have challenged the narrow minded establishment and will continue to do so, either in word or poetry as I have done also with AIDS awareness, a bit like a man who died long ago, a man I respect wholeheartedly, and feel I am following in his footsteps when I challenge narrow mindedness, who is the man?
I think we know, his mane is Jesus.

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I see. Well, perhaps you should get your family member to read Dr Pendergast's essay. Has he or she tried prayer, by the way?

I find your comparison of yourself to our Beloved Lord Jesus Christ more than disturbing, especially this part:

I sincerely hope that this is a typo and that you are not one of those disgusting brony people.

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A fool.

Eccl 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.

What did Jesus do to raise AIDS awareness?

How can you expect to be like Him if don't know His Word? Are you not getting spiritually fed at church?

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AIDS was not around in Jesus's time but there were other illnesses of which he showed understanding and compassion, and no doubt he would have doe the same had he come across someone with AIDS
Yes I am getting spiritually fed at my own church, thank you
What is Dr Prendergasts experience in ME, we had a Dr Prendergast in England who once held similar views, he featured in a documentary and was shot down in flames by other doctors. I always ask anyone who considered themselves an expert, what research they base their theory on.
Yes we have tried prayer very often, had it worked my daughter would have been well, it has helped us accept the fact that she is ill with an illness beyond comprehension of current modern day medicine. As such on Sunday May 12 2002 I was given the privilege of leading the intercession a special one for ME Awarenes Day, perhaps the only church to do so and ended with this prayer.
Heavenly Father, to whom the need of every heart are known, give patience, courage and hope to those suffering from M. E. and other conditions of Chronic Fatigue, and strength to those who care for them. Increase the sensitivity of doctors, the compassionate understanding of family, colleagues and neighbours, and the skill of the researchers as they
seek a cure. We ask this through the one who restored the sick to the fullness of life, Jesus Christ Our Lord Amen.
I often refer to him as my brother Jesus, as we are all children of God

No I am not a Brony Person, and yes mane was a typo, apologies for that.

HatetheSin Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement.
Good choice often reminds me of the scruffy person I saw that others looked down on yet went into a blood donation centre when those who looked down on him passed by on the other side.

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It is Dr PENDERGAST, without an R. No relation.

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I have no experience with the sin of sloth. My research comes from the Bible.

First, what denomination are you with? And second, doesn't this prove ME's not real? If it were real and you are a Christian and prayed in faith, why didn't God heal her, as He promises?

Jn 14:12-14 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Only believers are children of God.

Rom 8:14-17
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

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Don't be so quick to judge. The homersexual thinks nothing of donating blood infected with AIDS.

:angry:

YIC

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Originally Posted by HatetheSin
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement.
Good choice often reminds me of the scruffy person I saw that others looked down on yet went into a blood donation centre when those who looked down on him passed by on the other side.
Don't be so quick to judge. The homersexual thinks nothing of donating blood infected with AIDS.

I did not specify the donors sexual preference this is a fine example of jumping to the wrong conclusion, and lack of knowing where the spell checker is.

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Originally Posted by trev_wy View Post
What is Dr Prendergasts experience in ME, we had a Dr Prendergast in England who once held similar views, he featured in a documentary and was shot down in flames by other doctors. I always ask anyone who considered themselves an expert, what research they base their theory on.

I have no experience with the sin of sloth. My research comes from the Bible.

Where is the biblical evidence that ME is sin or sloth or any other illness for that matter

First, what denomination are you with? And second, doesn't this prove ME's not real? If it were real and you are a Christian and prayed in faith, why didn't God heal her, as He promises?

I have a faith rooted in Christianity with branches that encompass other faiths drawing from then the best. I know ME is real because I have a daughter with it and have seen her pain, I only wish I could take upon myself for her, I have seen others in physical pain in the real world, that is how I know it is real, as for why God hasn't healed her, he hasn't told me, feel free to ask him on my behalf.

Only believers are children of God.

I am a believer in my own way and as yet God appears to have found nothing wrong with it, in fact some of my experiences seem to suggest he is with me.

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Well there's your problem, friend. God does not wish to share your affections with your idols and other loves. He is a Jealous God and demands your 100% full attention and devotion to be on Him alone (Exodus 34:14; Deuteronomy 4:24). He is very possessive of this affection and will punish you and yours for failure to comply (Exodus 20:5; Joshua 24:19; Ezekiel 23:25). You were, as a matter of Biblical fact, created for one purpose and one purpose only - to bring Him Glory (Isaiah 43:6-7; 48:9-11; Romans 9:17). You do this by fearing and obeying Him (Ecclesiastes 12:13). Everything else will come together according to His perfect plan, when you capitulate your sin nature to His Divine Will (Proverbs 3:6; 16:3). Because you have decided to whore out your affections to whatever religious fancy comes your way with promises of emotional bliss, your prayers for healing have been Righteously ignored (John 9:31; Deuteronomy 1:45; Proverbs 15:29; 28:9; Isaiah 1:15). This is your fault, and the suffering of your child is God's wake-up call to you both (Deuteronomy 4:36; 8:5; 2 Samuel 7:14). Will you continue to ignore Him and His Righteous demands for your undivided worship? Or will you acknowledge your sin before Him, beg for mercy, and accept the conditions by which Salvation is freely given? If you choose Salvation, we can help.

:)

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God has my full attention there is nothing in the bible that says thou shalt not take from other faiths that which is good. I have a wife and also friendships with other women, does that make me an adulterer. As for God making my child suffer if I saw him as that type of God I would reject him.
During the famine 1985 in Africa Bob Geldoff said "don't blame God, blame man", I do not blame God for my daughters illness but man for his ignorance, arrogance, short sightedness and thinking he is better, when all are created equal in the image of and the eyes of God.
Or as one man said to me "how can you go to church when religion is responsible for many wars" my reply "it is not religion but bigoted religious leaders and sheeplike followers" he couldn't answer.

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Clearly He does not if your affections are directed towards other religions.

It seems you've never actually read the Holy Bible. The Bible says to love the LORD with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength (Deuteronomy 6:5). If you love other gods, your whole heart, soul, and strength are not directed fully towards Him.

Clearly not, as you are still drawn towards Him. It's your soul reaching out for Him.

The question shouldn't be What do random drug-addicted, commie self-rapists think, but What does God want of me and what will happen if I refuse?

He couldn't answer because he doesn't take his faith seriously. He doesn't know where to go for answers. He's just going through the motions he was conditioned to go through, likely since childhood. You don't have to follow like a blind sheep, though. You can take your faith seriously. You can learn what Jesus has in store for your life.

:)

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I get tired all the time but do you hear me whining about it? NO!!!

I take a nap.

NEXT???

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This is your underlying problem. You cherry-pick only those bits of the Holy Bible which appeal to you, add to them whatever bits of Buddhism take your fancy this week, throw in Ganesh-worship and maybe a bit of Zoroastrianism for good measure, celebrate Hanukkah and claim you are drawing the best from this hodge-podge of confusion. By whose standards? Not God's, I suspect.

Or you weren't listening. But think about your so-called faith and take a guess.

A believer in what, though? By your own standards, God certainly does seem to have found something wrong with it, if He has failed to heal your daughter. As for experiences which "seem to suggest" that He is with you, I suspect confirmation bias may be at work here.

I will pray for you and your daughter.

Yours in True Christian Faith,
Joanna

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I take a nap too but then again I haven't got ME