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IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:28 AM

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Actually no sir because here is an accurate source that will fix a lot of your arguements but there is a reason why I am not trying to address your arguements. Frankly because if I do, your either gonna say that's not what you heard, it's not true, or your gonna bring up another arguement. http://lifeafter.org/the-differences...n-flds-vs-lds/ There that's the answer to polygamy. But I have addressed some arguments like magic and garments. We don't believe in magic. But yet you guys are continuing to talk about it like you didn't even read it.

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200666)
Look, I said it once, I'll say it again. I'm done arguing, if you honestly believe Mormons are bad people and all of that, then please go ahead. I can't make you change your ways of thinking. I can only provide you with information hoping that you would understand. So maybe I'll say it again. I'm not gonna argue anymore. We both believe in God, we both believe in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and his resurrection, and we both read the same bible. So why are we even arguing? Honestly, we have the same beliefs, it's just we have a few things you wouldn't believe in, but we agree on similar things. So just remember to do your research right, check your sources, and understand that this wonderful country gives us freedom of religion, so there is no need for getting on someone else's religion.

But we don't have the same beliefs. For one, you think prancing around like a pony glorifies the LORD.

Also, I don't think Mormons are bad people. Just misguided. I wonder why you refuse to consider the information that goes against what you want to be true. Do you think that's a good policy in general when considering information and beliefs?

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda (Post 1200671)
You have to appreciate the power of smooth talking that charlatan had. Can you imagine the conversations?

Joe: Hey Henry, I know this is gonna sound, well... a bit funny. But you see, last night the Holy Ghost came to me in a vision and told me I ought to marry your Zina.

Henry: Um, Joe, you know I love you like a brother, man, but she's my wife.

Joe: Yeah, yeah [scratches head]. It's just that, well... um... it's what Heavenly Father wants, and who am I to say no?

Henry: Seriously? Joe, we've been friends a long time, man. She's my wife.

Joe: I know, Henry. But think about how now that your bed'll be empty, young Abigail who lives down the road could warm it for you, right? I mean, you and Zina have had some squabbles terrible lately. I'll take good care of her and you can raise up Abigail to be the sweet little thing you like a woman to be. You can teach her just what to do in bed if'n you know what I mean! Think about it, man! A sweet young ass like that? All yours? You can train her up just the way you like, and you won't have to listen to Zina's long, boring stories any more? C'mon! Heavenly Father will reward you in Heaven. I promise.

Henry: Okay, okay. You'll talk to Abigail's father?

Joe: Sure! Sure I will! No problem! It'll be worked out by week's end!

Henry: Well, if Heavenly Father wants it...

Joe: He does!

Henry: Well, okay.

Joe: Great! Hey, when you send Zizi over, have her wear that saucy little number that makes her ass look like it's got its own wagon train under that bustle. Yeah! That'll do. Mmm-MMM! Okay, see you later!
Henry: 0.o

Is this really what people think of mormons? This actually not only disgusts me but terrifies me. Sex is something sacred in the church. Something only done if we want to have a baby. It's not a pleasure, it's not a hobby, it is a means of reproduction. That is it. We don't do anything lustful, nothing pornographic, and nothing adulterated.

Roland 12-31-2016 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200674)
Is this really what people think of mormons? This actually not only disgusts me but terrifies me. Sex is something sacred in the church. Something only done if we want to have a baby. It's not a pleasure, it's not a hobby, it is a means of reproduction. That is it. We don't do anything lustful, nothing pornographic, and nothing adulterated.

So Joe didn´t take Henry´s wife to be his own?

Henry Poppendorfer 12-31-2016 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200672)
Actually no sir because here is an accurate source that will fix a lot of your arguements but there is a reason why I am not trying to address your arguements. Frankly because if I do, your either gonna say that's not what you heard, it's not true, or your gonna bring up another arguement. http://lifeafter.org/the-differences...n-flds-vs-lds/ There that's the answer to polygamy. But I have addressed some arguments like magic and garments. We don't believe in magic. But yet you guys are continuing to talk about it like you didn't even read it.

After reading this whole thing I still have no idea what it is you're trying to convey here. Mormons compromised some of their wicked beliefs for statehood because they are worldly and base, but we already knew that. Does that make Mormons suddenly okay? Hardly! As for magic, even the mainstream LDS has secret rites and rituals and initiations. Does Exodus 22:18 ring a bell to you? I suspect you have read too much of the wicked fanfiction that Joseph Smith cooked up. Revelation 22:18-19, young man. Consider reading the ACTUAL Bible.

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Roland (Post 1200675)
So Joe didn´t take Henry´s wife to be his own?

If they were fundamental Latter Day Saints, then yes that would have been a real conversation. But you don't seem to understand that fundemantal Latter Day Saints are different from Mormons or normal Latter Day Saints. Fun fact, while Joseph smith did indeed create the religion or at least the basis that I worship, he would not be welcomed in our church for his acts of polygamy. It's the same thing I was talking about bronies. You guys think all bronies are sexual and love dressing up as ponies, and they are gay and all that. But no, those are cloppers, the very thing that give bronies a bad name. If you met me in real life or saw me at a brony convention. You wouldn't believe I was a brony. Literally the only thing that would give me away would be a t shirt my friend got for me on Christmas. And a button that the same friend made for me. I think dressin up as a pony is weird and actually kind of stupid. So no that conversation did not happen if they were actual Mormons. And no I don't prance like a pony.

Pim Pendergast 12-31-2016 12:48 AM

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Actually no sir because here is an accurate source that will fix a lot of your arguements but there is a reason why I am not trying to address your arguements. Frankly because if I do, your either gonna say that's not what you heard, it's not true

Get used to it. When you become a Mormon missionary and you encounter people of different faiths, are you just going to agree with them so that you won't hurt their feelings or make them feel uncomfortable, or are you going to try to challenge and undermine their false beliefs? You will definitely encounter people who try to turn the tables on you and question your faith. You will probably be taught pat answers to give in response, but based on what I've seen here, you don't seem to have any deep knowledge or conviction or understanding of your own faith. You might want to make sure your religious beliefs are correct before you go out and try to push them on others.

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 12:49 AM

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If they were fundamental Latter Day Saints, then yes that would have been a real conversation.

Follow the link, son. It's to a list of Joseph Smith's wives.

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:54 AM

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And again, the mainstream Mormon does not have secret rites and rituals. Again that is the fundamental Latter Day Saints you speak of. And I do read the actual bible sir. One of my favorite scriptures actually come from the bible not the Book of Mormon. Math 25:40 and the king shall answer and say unto them, verily I say unto you. Inasmuch as ye hath done it, unto one of the least of these my brethren ye have done it unto me.
and you know what sir, your right. I am not as knowledgeable of my religion as I should be. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna sit back and just give up. I've tried walking away from this. But every time I did, it seems I only come back to speak of my faith and answer your arguements the best I can. And everyday I read the bible, not just the Book of Mormon and try to educate myself on what I need to know in order to be a successful missionary. Out of all the people here, Mr. Pendergast sir, you have actually been the least insulting. I actually thank you for that. You strike me as the kind of guy that would actually sit down and read their sources and make sure they are spreading accurate information. Even if it's about something you dislike. And like I said sister etheldreda, though Joseph smith founded the Mormon church, he would not be welcome in our church if he was still alive.

handmaiden 12-31-2016 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200678)
If they were fundamental Latter Day Saints, then yes that would have been a real conversation. But you don't seem to understand that fundemantal Latter Day Saints are different from Mormons or normal Latter Day Saints. Fun fact, while Joseph smith did indeed create the religion or at least the basis that I worship, he would not be welcomed in our church for his acts of polygamy. It's the same thing I was talking about bronies. You guys think all bronies are sexual and love dressing up as ponies, and they are gay and all that. But no, those are cloppers, the very thing that give bronies a bad name. If you met me in real life or saw me at a brony convention. You wouldn't believe I was a brony. Literally the only thing that would give me away would be a t shirt my friend got for me on Christmas. And a button that the same friend made for me. I think dressin up as a pony is weird and actually kind of stupid. So no that conversation did not happen if they were actual Mormons. And no I don't prance like a pony.

So, Joseph Smith wouldn't be welcomed in your church even though your church believes that God chose him to find and communicate the documents that founded your church?


Wait, would Matthew, Mark, Luke or John be welcome? They wore sandals in church and all the Mormons that I've ever seen were dressed in dark suits and dress shoes.


Inquiringly Yours,
Handmaiden

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 01:02 AM

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Of course Matthew Luke and John would be welcomed. In fact, just about anyone is welcomed in our church dressed however they want. As long as it is appropriate. Nothing skimpy, nothing that has crude messages on t shirts. The reason why we dress like that, is because we want to dress the best we can in the church. So really dress the best you can.

handmaiden 12-31-2016 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200685)
Of course Matthew Luke and John would be welcomed. In fact, just about anyone is welcomed in our church dressed however they want. As long as it is appropriate. Nothing skimpy, nothing that has crude messages on t shirts. The reason why we dress like that, is because we want to dress the best we can in the church. So really dress the best you can.

Interesting. You took my question at face value but you don't take the Bible at face value. . . Wait, Am I being punked?


Fascinatedly Yours,
Handmaiden

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 01:09 AM

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I do take the bible at face bible, no wait scratch that. It's above face value. The word of God is something extremely valuable. My favorite scripture comes from the bible not the Book of Mormon.

Didymus Much 12-31-2016 01:19 AM

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I do take the bible at face bible, no wait scratch that. It's above face value. The word of God is something extremely valuable. My favorite scripture comes from the bible not the Book of Mormon.

This is sounding more and more like someone trying to figure out what their audience wants to hear, as opposed to a genuine declaration of religious belief, so let's drop that for now.


I'd really like to hear how you feel, in your own words, about your church changing the Book of Mormon (as detailed by Mrs. Etheldreda in this post) to reflect their more modern "understanding" of the eternal nature of God.

Pim Pendergast 12-31-2016 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200683)
I am not as knowledgeable of my religion as I should be.

No, you're not. But the Bible encourages you to examine your own beliefs and understand them.

2 Cor 13:5a Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

1 Thes 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

1 Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

1 Pet 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Mormonism just doesn't stand up to this level of scrutiny.

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And like I said sister etheldreda, though Joseph smith founded the Mormon church, he would not be welcome in our church if he was still alive.
So why does your church follow his teachings? I can tell you Jesus Christ is still alive, and He is more than welcome at Landover Baptist.

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200683)
And again, the mainstream Mormon does not have secret rites and rituals.

Don't take my word for it. Ask your parents. Ask your stake president or bishop. They'll call them "sacred" and they'll say, "we don't talk about sacred things outside the Temple." The only way you learn about them is by going through these secret rituals.



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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200683)
Again that is the fundamental Latter Day Saints you speak of.

Son, we recognize the Church of LDS no longer preaches polygamy, but your insistence they never did is easily corrected by looking at history. Look at the history of your own church.

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and you know what sir, your right. I am not as knowledgeable of my religion as I should be. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna sit back and just give up.

Nor should you, dear. Look into the history of your church and let it speak for itself. Look at the claims your church makes. Hold them up against the facts we know to be true. Let the evidence lead you, but don't give up on the Truth, and don't give up on learning about the faith claims of your church.

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And like I said sister etheldreda, though Joseph smith founded the Mormon church, he would not be welcome in our church if he was still alive.

I missed where you said this earlier. I've never heard this idea. Can you point me to some information on this? I find that fascinating that a homo would be welcome in your church so long as he kept his filthy little diddley-winks to himself, but the founder would not. In your opinion, which Celestial Heaven do you think Smith is currently in?

Basilissa 12-31-2016 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200678)
If they were fundamental Latter Day Saints, then yes that would have been a real conversation. But you don't seem to understand that fundemantal Latter Day Saints are different from Mormons or normal Latter Day Saints. Fun fact, while Joseph smith did indeed create the religion or at least the basis that I worship, he would not be welcomed in our church for his acts of polygamy.

Wait, wait, what? I'm seriously confused now. :confused:

So the founder of your church would be not welcomed in your own church today?

If he was wrong on the polygamy thing, then how do you know that he wasn't wrong on the whole Book of Mormon thing?

Cranky Old Man 12-31-2016 03:09 AM

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You should watch video relations from for example BronyCon. There is nothing strange in it.

:blink:

Why do you try to seduce innocent Christian children into watching pedosexual porn online? Do you have no shame? :fear2:

Alvin Moss 12-31-2016 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200687)
I do take the bible at face bible, no wait scratch that. It's above face value. The word of God is something extremely valuable. My favorite scripture comes from the bible not the Book of Mormon.


We had a tribe of Mormons who came to Texas not too long ago; it was a few years back. They bought a big ranch over near San Angelo somewhere and called it "Yearning for Zion". Then they proceeded to fill it up with wives and every wife had a whole bunch of kids. It was like a small town out there in the middle of nowhere and everybody dressed funny.

Well, we are as friendly and tolerant in Texas as the good Christians are on this web site, but there are lines beyond which we have no tolerance. Mormons out in the desert with a bunch of wives dressed like they're extras in a Clint Eastwood western movie was just too much to ask. So, the Sheriff went in there with armored personal carriers and armed deputies and arrested them all. We confiscated their children for a while and rustled all their livestock. The jeffe, Warren Jeffs, got away, but we got him after a while and locked him up in the prison we keep for people like that. He languishes there even now.

Here where I live, in San Antonio, the Mormons have had the temerity to build a big temple with a statue of their golden god on top of it and it is built in a pretty expensive area of town. In fact, it is right down the street from Reverend John Hagee's vision of what the Second Temple must have looked like. I have often wondered what pagan rituals they act out in there. In fact, I'm pretty suspicious of what Pastor Hagee might be up to, too, but that is for another day.

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 05:38 AM

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It's because of Joseph smith practice as polygamy that would not allow him to be a member of our church. And Alvin, you do know that is a bit extreme, they were only trying to start a branch. And as for the golden statue. We don't build statues of false idols, that is the angel mormoni, not God. And we don't practice pagan rituals. We are Christian like you, not pagan. And welcome anyone in our church, so long as they are respectful, reverent and don't dress provocatively or inappropriate. But they cannot become members of our church.


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