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Ravenmann 05-08-2019 01:05 PM

Greetings from an atheist
 
Greetings, dear Christians, :bye:

First things first, I am Ravenmann and I come from Europe. I am a young man. I'm an atheist.


Before I proceed any further with this introduction, I want to say that I am not here to troll, fight or verbally assault faithful of this forum in any way, shape or form. I am open to getting into civil discussions.


Let's proceed now.


I joined this forum to interact with you guys, share knowledge, facts, info and other stuff.


Now, believe it or not, I most probably agree more with you then any atheist out there. How come? I find it hard to enjoy the company of other atheists because I hold mostly conservative views. For example, I am pro life and anti LGBT.


I admire your Zeal. I have seen many Christian communities water down and start accepting and even proclaiming LGBT as something normal, when it is clear that it's not normal.


I hope we can get along and learn from each other. Thanks for reading.


Ravenmann

Mary Etheldreda 05-08-2019 03:28 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
I find your hubris off putting, dear. If you think we can learn something from you that Jesus Christ thy Lord simply forgot to put in His autobiography, you'll have a very difficult time here. If however, you'd like to learn from us, namely why Salvation is not gained through social stagnation but through Belief in Christ as LORD, then we shall get along smashingly!

BrotherLarry 05-08-2019 03:36 PM

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Hello Raven

Why are you so quick to point out your aversion to lgbt persons who can easily find Jesus if they fall on their face in front of Him? Are you harboring deep secrets in your breast? I am not defending sin but I work tirelessly with homers every day. I recognize homer tendencies a mile away.

By the way, how old are you?

Didymus Much 05-08-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251367)
...Now, believe it or not, I most probably agree more with you then any atheist out there...For example, I am pro life and anti LGBT...

So what? If you think like that because of some severely fvcked-up logic and/or willful ignorance, it's still not any good to them. :thumbdown:


If you believe that because some thousands of years-old book with giants, unicorns, magic and fairies tells you to, then maybe you'd have an "in" here.

Isabella White 05-08-2019 03:49 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251367)
Greetings, dear Christians, :bye:
Let's proceed now.

I joined this forum to interact with you guys, share knowledge, facts, info and other stuff.

I hope we can get along and learn from each other.

Good morning, young man. "Let's proceed now". Very good! From this moment onward, you must realize that Landover Baptist Church is God's Favorite Church and that what you learn here is for your benefit. We are a strict, "no nonsense" group of Godly believers and followers of the Lord Jesus Christ. And that means we have no time for the devil and his heretics, including those who open accounts here just to try to push their demonic agendas on our Godly site.


But since you want to learn from us, I suggest that you study this Bible verse (from the King James Bible, 1611) very carefully:


Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."


And, now, this:


John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."


And, this, too:


Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."


"Let's proceed now". Your next step is to apply those verses to your wretched, sinful, God-denying life, and to realize that you will be spending your eternity (all of it!) in HELL for rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ! That can be changed, only, if you call upon the Name of the Lord and admit that you are a disgusting sinner who needs Salvation through the Blood of the Lamb.


I'll leave it with you, my young friend, to figure out. You must connect the dots and apply this to your life. I'm afraid I can't paint a rosy picture for you. Facts are facts, and the Holy Bible is full of them. Turn, or burn!


Sincerely,
Isabella W.

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 04:50 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda (Post 1251372)
I find your hubris off putting, dear. If you think we can learn something from you that Jesus Christ thy Lord simply forgot to put in His autobiography, you'll have a very difficult time here. If however, you'd like to learn from us, namely why Salvation is not gained through social stagnation but through Belief in Christ as LORD, then we shall get along smashingly!

By saying that we can exchange knowledge, I meant the following:


I have read lots and lots of stuff about religion and occultism, and since you have an entire subforum dedicated to those esoteric and occultistic religions, I figured it would be great to contribute and spill some information about wicca, witchcraft, satanism and alike.


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Originally Posted by BrotherLarry (Post 1251373)
Hello Raven


Why are you so quick to point out your aversion to lgbt persons who can easily find Jesus if they fall on their face in front of Him? Are you harboring deep secrets in your breast? I am not defending sin but I work tirelessly with homers every day. I recognize homer tendencies a mile away.


By the way, how old are you?

If by harbouring deep secrets you mean I had gay experiences or something, no I don't have any deep secrets and I am 100% straight.



I don't really hate them but I find the whole idea of their "community" retarded. I don't mind what two grown adults do in their bedroom, but when they take it out in the streets in the form of parades, it's everybody's problem.


I don't want to say my exact age, but I am old enough for this forum.


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Originally Posted by Isabella White (Post 1251376)
Good morning, young man. "Let's proceed now". Very good! From this moment onward, you must realize that Landover Baptist Church is God's Favorite Church and that what you learn here is for your benefit. We are a strict, "no nonsense" group of Godly believers and followers of the Lord Jesus Christ. And that means we have no time for the devil and his heretics, including those who open accounts here just to try to push their demonic agendas on our Godly site.




But since you want to learn from us, I suggest that you study this Bible verse (from the King James Bible, 1611) very carefully:




Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."




And, now, this:




John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."




And, this, too:




Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."




"Let's proceed now". Your next step is to apply those verses to your wretched, sinful, God-denying life, and to realize that you will be spending your eternity (all of it!) in HELL for rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ! That can be changed, only, if you call upon the Name of the Lord and admit that you are a disgusting sinner who needs Salvation through the Blood of the Lamb.




I'll leave it with you, my young friend, to figure out. You must connect the dots and apply this to your life. I'm afraid I can't paint a rosy picture for you. Facts are facts, and the Holy Bible is full of them. Turn, or burn!




Sincerely,
Isabella W.



Thanks for the verses. I actually plan on reading the bible. I cannot really go in depth of any discussion about Christianity with well versed christians without reading it. Also, I tehnically never "rejected Jesus Christ". I was never a Christian. I rejected Islam and became an atheist.

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Didymus Much (Post 1251374)
So what? If you think like that because of some severely fvcked-up logic and/or willful ignorance, it's still not any good to them. :thumbdown:


If you believe that because some thousands of years-old book with giants, unicorns, magic and fairies tells you to, then maybe you'd have an "in" here.

I understand what you are saying.


I'm really bewildered that an atheist is a regular here though.
Also, how do people get those badges next to their username and avatar?

Mary Etheldreda 05-08-2019 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251377)
I have read lots and lots of stuff about religion and occultism, and since you have an entire subforum dedicated to those esoteric and occultistic religions, I figured it would be great to contribute and spill some information about wicca, witchcraft, satanism and alike.

You are welcome to contribute your thoughts to any thread on these forums, but you may not start a new thread anywhere but here, which you already did, so that's it for that. Anyway, please provide the appropriate Bible Verses to support whatever contributions you make. We love to see how the LORD works through His various creatures! You can find an online version HERE.

Isabella White 05-08-2019 05:13 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251377)
By saying that we can exchange knowledge, I meant the following:


I have read lots and lots of stuff about religion and occultism, and since you have an entire subforum dedicated to those esoteric and occultistic religions, I figured it would be great to contribute and spill some information about wicca, witchcraft, satanism and alike.

I don't want to say my exact age, but I am old enough for this forum.

Thanks for the verses. I actually plan on reading the bible. I cannot really go in depth of any discussion about Christianity with well versed christians without reading it. Also, I tehnically never "rejected Jesus Christ". I was never a Christian. I rejected Islam and became an atheist.

Young man, you must understand this: If you have not accepted the Grace of God's Love, as given to mankind through the sacrifice of God's only son, the Lord Jesus Christ, then, in effect, you have rejected Him. You have heard the glorious Gospel message many times, no doubt. And by not accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior, forsaking all other gods, then you have pushed Jesus away. That is REJECTION. And to reject Jesus as Savior means you are headed straight for HELL, for all of eternity, which is the choice that you have accepted. And once you are there, you will never have another chance to escape. Do you really want to have fire shooting through your eye sockets forever? Think of the horrors of the poor people who were trapped in the towers in New York on 9/11, and then realize that that is exactly what you will be facing in Hell, except it is forever with no chance of escape, no relief, no pause.


As for not revealing your age, what is the big deal about that? How can we be sure that you are of an age that is allowed for this site? Surely, if you have nothing to hide, then telling us your age should not be an issue. For goodness sake, I am 84 and I don't care who knows!


As for your offer to "spill some information" about the devil's worship practices, I think you will find we are not interested. We've heard it all before, and we have no time in anything that glorifies Satan. We are here to talk about JESUS and to study the King James Bible, 1611. Is that understood?
Sincerely,
Isabella W.

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 05:31 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda (Post 1251379)
You are welcome to contribute your thoughts to any thread on these forums, but you may not start a new thread anywhere but here, which you already did, so that's it for that. Anyway, please provide the appropriate Bible Verses to support whatever contributions you make. We love to see how the LORD works through His various creatures! You can find an online version HERE.

Why am I not allowed to make new threads in subforums though? I don't troll or anything, and I'd put effort into them.

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Originally Posted by Isabella White (Post 1251380)
Young man, you must understand this: If you have not accepted the Grace of God's Love, as given to mankind through the sacrifice of God's only son, the Lord Jesus Christ, then, in effect, you have rejected Him. You have heard the glorious Gospel message many times, no doubt. And by not accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior, forsaking all other gods, then you have pushed Jesus away. That is REJECTION. And to reject Jesus as Savior means you are headed straight for HELL, for all of eternity, which is the choice that you have accepted. And once you are there, you will never have another chance to escape. Do you really want to have fire shooting through your eye sockets forever? Think of the horrors of the poor people who were trapped in the towers in New York on 9/11, and then realize that that is exactly what you will be facing in Hell, except it is forever with no chance of escape, no relief, no pause.


As for not revealing your age, what is the big deal about that? How can we be sure that you are of an age that is allowed for this site? Surely, if you have nothing to hide, then telling us your age should not be an issue. For goodness sake, I am 84 and I don't care who knows!


As for your offer to "spill some information" about the devil's worship practices, I think you will find we are not interested. We've heard it all before, and we have no time in anything that glorifies Satan. We are here to talk about JESUS and to study the King James Bible, 1611. Is that understood?
Sincerely,
Isabella W.


I understand your words, but it's hard to believe in something like that when each and every religion claims that they are the true religion. If I had any legit evidence to look on and review, maybe i'd accept Christianity.


Also, you are really 84 years old? That's odd. This is probably the first forum I encountered that has seniors on it. I'm sure you led a fufilling life and I hope that health serves you well. :lol:

BrotherLarry 05-08-2019 05:42 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Raven,


I've heard it all before.


Spaghetti is straight, too, until you get it hot enough.

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 05:43 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
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Originally Posted by BrotherLarry (Post 1251384)
Raven,


I've heard it all before.


Spaghetti is straight, too, until you get it hot enough.

Why are you assuming i'm gay though? I'm an atheist, but not a queer.

Mary Etheldreda 05-08-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251382)
Why am I not allowed to make new threads in subforums though? I don't troll or anything, and I'd put effort into them.

You're not allowed to make new threads because the Department of Faith is still working on your investigation. For our own sake, Jesus commands us to rebuke the unbeliever (2nd Timothy 4:2), and shun those who refuse to kowtow unto His Divine Authority (Romans 16:17; 1st Corinthians 10:20). You're like the spiritual equivalent to the child with the measles, your limitations are necessary for the sake of others who come here to Seek the Truth™.

Basilissa 05-08-2019 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251377)
I have read lots and lots of stuff about religion and occultism, and since you have an entire subforum dedicated to those esoteric and occultistic religions, I figured it would be great to contribute and spill some information about wicca, witchcraft, satanism and alike.

As long as you agree to agree with us that followers of all of the above will go to Hell, we're OK with that. :thumbsup:

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Thanks for the verses. I actually plan on reading the bible. I cannot really go in depth of any discussion about Christianity with well versed christians without reading it.
That is great news indeed. It's really worth reading, even if just to see what the fuss is all about. Interestingly, if you do follow through, you'll achieve more than many self-proclaimed "Christians" who live their lives without reading the Bible but just believing stuff they think it should say. :wacko: Needless to say, when people like that stumble upon our forum, they are rather surprised and often deeply offended. :lol:
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I'm really bewildered that an atheist is a regular here though.
Mr. not-so-much, despite being a hellbound atheist, knows the Bible much better than the self-proclaimed Christians I mentioned. That means, there's still a shred of hope for his Salvation. :thumbsup:

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I was never a Christian. I rejected Islam and became an atheist.
If I may ask, what were the reasons why you rejected Islam?

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Also, how do people get those badges next to their username and avatar?
Oh, don't worry about that - keep posting, and you'll get what you'll deserve. :innocent:

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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251382)
Why am I not allowed to make new threads in subforums though? I don't troll or anything, and I'd put effort into them.

You just joined, dear. What you say now does sound nice, but let's wait and see if you really worth the trouble. Nothing personal, it's just that we get a lot of hit-and-run posters around here.

BrotherLarry 05-08-2019 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251385)
Why are you assuming i'm gay though? I'm an atheist, but not a queer.


The True Christian™ has gifts of the Spirit, including discernment. You have given me no reason to declare you a straight person. You have no wife, apparently; you have not mentioned a gun collection. You haven't discussed hunting or fishing or siring sons like a hopeful hetero male would do, no matter how young.


And we don't insult the gaywise here. We love them and pray for them. I know personally the joy they can bring. That's why it's not necessary to hide from us even your darkest sin.


BrotherLarry

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 05-08-2019 05:56 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251382)
Why am I not allowed to make new threads in subforums though? I don't troll or anything, and I'd put effort into them.

This is very familiar. Where have I seen it all before, just days ago? Oh look, here it is!

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1251387)
As long as you agree to agree with us that followers of all of the above will go to Hell, we're OK with that. :thumbsup:

That is great news indeed. It's really worth reading, even if just to see what the fuss is all about. Interestingly, if you do follow through, you'll achieve more than many self-proclaimed "Christians" who live their lives without reading the Bible but just believing stuff they think it should say. :wacko: Needless to say, when people like that stumble upon our forum, they are rather surprised and often deeply offended. :lol:
Mr. not-so-much, despite being a hellbound atheist, knows the Bible much better than the self-proclaimed Christians I mentioned. That means, there's still a shred of hope for his Salvation. :thumbsup:

If I may ask, what were the reasons why you rejected Islam?

Oh, don't worry about that - keep posting, and you'll get what you'll deserve. :innocent:

You just joined, dear. What you say now does sound nice, but let's wait and see if you really worth the trouble. Nothing personal, it's just that we get a lot of hit-and-run posters around here.

Well, I think that faggots and queers are something that should not be normalized ans accepted.


I was a pious muslim child until my 12th year or something. My family is really religoius but my atheist grandfather and a very wise person taught me things, read books with me and stuff like that.


I stopped believing in God, though I did continue reading about Islam and religion in general, and today I am strongly opposed to Islam, as it has no place in Europe nor America.


I understand now that my account has to be approved by department of Faith or whatever you call it, no problem. I am not a hit and run poster and I can wait a bit. I noticed I got my first "cancer of society" badge. I don't mind insulting badges, but I'd really like to get the "Pro life" one.

Isabella White 05-08-2019 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251382)
Why am I not allowed to make new threads in subforums though? I don't troll or anything, and I'd put effort into them.

I understand your words, but it's hard to believe in something like that when each and every religion claims that they are the true religion. If I had any legit evidence to look on and review, maybe i'd accept Christianity.

Also, you are really 84 years old? That's odd. This is probably the first forum I encountered that has seniors on it. I'm sure you led a fufilling life and I hope that health serves you well. :lol:

As dear Sister Mary has so kindly noted, once our investigation is finished, then you might be able to post new threads. But only IF our Godly investigators are satisfied that you are not here to cause trouble, troll, or otherwise conduct yourself in a manner that is not in accordance with our Godly principles.


Why do you think it's odd that I'm 84? The good Lord has spared me from a stroke, and so far I don't have any other unfortunate health conditions. And that is largely due to clean living and worshipping the good Lord constantly, although I do thank you for wishing me well, and I return the sentiment. That's why I've referred you to Biblical verses that you need to know.


As for your statement about us having any "legit evidence to look on and review", I do believe that I have shared some very important and relevant Scriptural verses with you. What you need to do is get yourself a copy of the King James Bible, 1611. Open it up and study it carefully. Do NOT get any of those other watered-down versions, and do not cherry-pick the nice verses whilst leaving the stronger ones behind. The KJV Bible is not a box of chocolates. ALL of it is what the Lord has left for us to study, from cover to cover.


II Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"


Sincerely,
Isabella W.

Isabella White 05-08-2019 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey (Post 1251389)
This is very familiar. Where have I seen it all before, just days ago? Oh look, here it is!

A-ha! I suspected as much, dear Sister Joanna. The writing style seemed to have a certain ring to it. Bless you for being so observant. Obviously, the Holy Spirit was guiding you very carefully! A blessed day to you, Dear. Sincerely, Isabella W.

BrotherLarry 05-08-2019 06:05 PM

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Dearest Granny Isabella,


If this muslim terrorist insults you just let me know and I will get on the next plane (unless he's on it) to defend you. You know the burden I have for the homersekshul and he's already trying to insult me - er, them - and I'm not fooled by his pretend politeness. I know as a muslime his inherent nature is violence and divisiveness. I bet he didn't even vote for Trump and probably wants to see Bob Barr impeached.


Note how he won't reveal his age because he doesn't want us to know he is a 64 year old from Iraq or somewhere like that, planning the next 9/11. May GOD (not allah, piss be on him) save his soul.


PS: Raven, once again you use pejorative linguisticisms to describe the homer. We do NOT insult people here and these statements do not set well with our Dept of Faith. Nonetheless, I hope the LORD GOD blesses you on our friendly and welcoming forums.

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherLarry (Post 1251388)
The True Christian™ has gifts of the Spirit, including discernment. You have given me no reason to declare you a straight person. You have no wife, apparently; you have not mentioned a gun collection. You haven't discussed hunting or fishing or siring sons like a hopeful hetero male would do, no matter how young.


And we don't insult the gaywise here. We love them and pray for them. I know personally the joy they can bring. That's why it's not necessary to hide from us even your darkest sin.


BrotherLarry


Well, I do plan on owning guns and one of my wishes in to start hunting. As of now, I only own a Mondial Brevettata model 1900.
I plan on getting myself ammo for it.



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Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey (Post 1251389)
This is very familiar. Where have I seen it all before, just days ago? Oh look, here it is!


Are you implying that I am the same person as OP of that thread. I most surely am not. Please check the IP adress under which I am posting this and you shall have your ultimate proof.

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Originally Posted by Isabella White (Post 1251392)
As dear Sister Mary has so kindly noted, once our investigation is finished, then you might be able to post new threads. But only IF our Godly investigators are satisfied that you are not here to cause trouble, troll, or otherwise conduct yourself in a manner that is not in accordance with our Godly principles.


Why do you think it's odd that I'm 84? The good Lord has spared me from a stroke, and so far I don't have any other unfortunate health conditions. And that is largely due to clean living and worshipping the good Lord constantly, although I do thank you for wishing me well, and I return the sentiment. That's why I've referred you to Biblical verses that you need to know.


As for your statement about us having any "legit evidence to look on and review", I do believe that I have shared some very important and relevant Scriptural verses with you. What you need to do is get yourself a copy of the King James Bible, 1611. Open it up and study it carefully. Do NOT get any of those other watered-down versions, and do not cherry-pick the nice verses whilst leaving the stronger ones behind. The KJV Bible is not a box of chocolates. ALL of it is what the Lord has left for us to study, from cover to cover.


II Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"


Sincerely,
Isabella W.


As I already mentioned, I am not here to troll and cause trouble in any way, shape or form, which can be proven by my posts so far, and I promise to continue posting well thought out and quality posts.


I do find it a little odd, considering elderly in my country don't really engage in online communities, excluding facebook of course.


I downloaded the version of the Bible you recommended and I will begin reading it tonight. Maybe I will post mine thoughts of it once I am hopefully approved.

Basilissa 05-08-2019 06:21 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251390)
Well, I think that faggots and queers are something that should not be normalized ans accepted.

As an atheist, you cannot use religion as a justification of your position, so I'm curious, how do you justify it?

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I stopped believing in God, though I did continue reading about Islam and religion in general, and today I am strongly opposed to Islam, as it has no place in Europe nor America.
That's good to hear. Many atheists would say that Christianity has no place in the civilized world, I'm glad you don't support that position. :)

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I noticed I got my first "cancer of society" badge. I don't mind insulting badges, but I'd really like to get the "Pro life" one.
When you say "pro life," do you mean "pro all life" (so against death penalty for even the worst criminals), or "pro some life only?"

James Hutchins 05-08-2019 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251367)
Greetings, dear Christians, :bye:

First things first, I am Ravenmann and I come from Europe. I am a young man. I'm an atheist.

Before I proceed any further with this introduction, I want to say that I am not here to troll, fight or verbally assault faithful of this forum in any way, shape or form. I am open to getting into civil discussions.

Let's proceed now.

I joined this forum to interact with you guys, share knowledge, facts, info and other stuff.

Now, believe it or not, I most probably agree more with you then any atheist out there. How come? I find it hard to enjoy the company of other atheists because I hold mostly conservative views. For example, I am pro life and anti LGBT.

I admire your Zeal. I have seen many Christian communities water down and start accepting and even proclaiming LGBT as something normal, when it is clear that it's not normal.

I hope we can get along and learn from each other. Thanks for reading.

Ravenmann

Welcome.
First off, you are chock full of horse doo-doo. People like you always repent when on your death bed or when life does not seem fair. Then you proclaim there is no God because He did not repond to your prayers. Are you really surprised after a lifetime of peeing on His Stefano Bemers?
Let's look at an independent expert, OK.

Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Isabella White 05-08-2019 06:24 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251395)
Are you implying that I am the same person as OP of that thread. I most surely am not. Please check the IP adress under which I am posting this and you shall have your ultimate proof.

I do find it a little odd, considering elderly in my country don't really engage in online communities, excluding facebook of course.

I downloaded the version of the Bible you recommended and I will begin reading it tonight. Maybe I will post mine thoughts of it once I am hopefully approved.

IP address, my aunt Clara's big toe! Are you so foolish as to think that none of us here have ever heard of VPNs??


Well, I hope it wasn't too much of a culture shock to you to see this old lady on this forum. We don't all sit in rocking chairs with cats on our laps, you know. It might surprise you to know that I still do my own gardening, and I still volunteer at the local library where I was once librarian. Have I missed something about you? Did you mention what country you're from? I may have overlooked that. Sincerely, Isabella We-Know-All-About-IP-Stuff White.

Pastor Ezekiel 05-08-2019 06:25 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251367)
Greetings, dear Christians, :bye:

First things first, I am Ravenmann and I come from Europe. I am a young man. I'm an atheist.


Before I proceed any further with this introduction, I want to say that I am not here to troll, fight or verbally assault faithful of this forum in any way, shape or form. I am open to getting into civil discussions.


Let's proceed now.


I joined this forum to interact with you guys, share knowledge, facts, info and other stuff.


Now, believe it or not, I most probably agree more with you then any atheist out there. How come? I find it hard to enjoy the company of other atheists because I hold mostly conservative views. For example, I am pro life and anti LGBT.


I admire your Zeal. I have seen many Christian communities water down and start accepting and even proclaiming LGBT as something normal, when it is clear that it's not normal.


I hope we can get along and learn from each other. Thanks for reading.


Ravenmann

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself. :rtfm:

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed
HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here
uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people,
THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "
Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at
THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm:

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to
hellfire. :sinner::haha:
:haha:

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 06:36 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1251399)
As an atheist, you cannot use religion as a justification of your position, so I'm curious, how do you justify it?

That's good to hear. Many atheists would say that Christianity has no place in the civilized world, I'm glad you don't support that position. :)

When you say "pro life," do you mean "pro all life" (so against death penalty for even the worst criminals), or "pro some life only?"

It simply is not normal nor natural. I'm sick of libtrash atheists talking about evolution one minute and talking about how faggots are normal in another. I believe humans evolved to have heterosexual sex only. It is not normal. I could list some facts but they are gross and disgusting so I'll refrain from it.


I am pro life in sense of an abortion question. I am all for death penalty for some of the scum of the earth. So you could say pro some life only.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isabella White (Post 1251401)
IP address, my aunt Clara's big toe! Are you so foolish as to think that none of us here have ever heard of VPNs??


Well, I hope it wasn't too much of a culture shock to you to see this old lady on this forum. We don't all sit in rocking chairs with cats on our laps, you know. It might surprise you to know that I still do my own gardening, and I still volunteer at the local library where I was once librarian. Have I missed something about you? Did you mention what country you're from? I may have overlooked that. Sincerely, Isabella We-Know-All-About-IP-Stuff White.


Yes. I do know what a VPN is. I will find a way to prove my authenticity, one way or another ;)


Librarian, you say? I always loved books and libraries. They just have a beautiful feeling to them. To disprove inconsistencies in my story, I will disclose it. I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina. Only muslim country in all of Europe.

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 05-08-2019 06:36 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251395)
Are you implying that I am the same person as OP of that thread. I most surely am not.

No, just pointing out that the exact same request was made (and denied) only two days ago. This is why it's a good plan to have a bit of a read (and use the search function) before wasting everyone's time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251395)
Please check the IP adress under which I am posting this and you shall have your ultimate proof.

Why would I do that? We have administrative back-office staff for that sort of thing.

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 06:45 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 1251402)
First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself. :rtfm:

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed
HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here
uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people,
THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "
Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at
THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm:

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to
hellfire. :sinner::haha:
:haha:

No need for hostility, Pastor Ezekiel(unrelated, but you have a cool name)


I literally promise that I am here to learn about christianity and talk with people well versed in that religion. I am not saying that I know more then you, but I noticed that you have a subforum for exposing new age religions such as Wicca and I have quite a bit knowledge on them and I would like to contribute so you can recognize them and their symbols as well as messages in public. As I understand, you are one of the admins or leaders, and I thank you for taking your time and replying. I hope that you will see fit to accept me here, even though I am "unsaved". I will not post anything that opposes the rules.

Dr Laurence Niles 05-08-2019 06:49 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251367)
Greetings, dear Christians, :bye:

First things first, I am Ravenmann and I come from Europe. I am a young man. I'm an atheist.


Before I proceed any further with this introduction, I want to say that I am not here to troll, fight or verbally assault faithful of this forum in any way, shape or form. I am open to getting into civil discussions.


Let's proceed now.


I joined this forum to interact with you guys, share knowledge, facts, info and other stuff.


Now, believe it or not, I most probably agree more with you then any atheist out there. How come? I find it hard to enjoy the company of other atheists because I hold mostly conservative views. For example, I am pro life and anti LGBT.


I admire your Zeal. I have seen many Christian communities water down and start accepting and even proclaiming LGBT as something normal, when it is clear that it's not normal.


I hope we can get along and learn from each other. Thanks for reading.


Ravenmann

Welcome, young lady!

I’m guessing that Jesus has bought you here. But is it to test OUR faith or for YOUR Salvation®?

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved - Acts 2:21

YIC

Basilissa 05-08-2019 06:58 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251404)
It simply is not normal nor natural. I'm sick of libtrash atheists talking about evolution one minute and talking about how faggots are normal in another. I believe humans evolved to have heterosexual sex only. It is not normal.

Excellent point, dear. Do you think we should eradicate all the animal species which also commit this abomination? I know, that would mean no more lamb for dinner, but I'm sure there is at least one edible animal species which members don't participate in homosexual behaviors!
Quote:

I am pro life in sense of an abortion question. I am all for death penalty for some of the scum of the earth. So you could say pro some life only.
That's the way to do it, dear! Both Christianity and Islam have been selectively pro-life, killing infidels and protecting lives of their own. :thumbsup:

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 07:10 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Laurence Niles (Post 1251410)
Welcome, young lady!

I’m guessing that Jesus has bought you here. But is it to test OUR faith or for YOUR Salvation®?

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved - Acts 2:21

YIC

Not lady, but a lad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1251413)
Excellent point, dear. Do you think we should eradicate all the animal species which also commit this abomination? I know, that would mean no more lamb for dinner, but I'm sure there is at least one edible animal species which members don't participate in homosexual behaviors!
That's the way to do it, dear! Both Christianity and Islam have been selectively pro-life, killing infidels and protecting lives of their own. :thumbsup:


I don't really know if the claim about homosexual animals is true. I have grown up with animals and never witnessed anything like that. Could be a queer propaganda.


Yes. Well every religious community true to itself should strive to survive and remain pure and true to their teachings. Just the way it is.

Dennis Lukes 05-08-2019 07:14 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251409)
I am not saying that I know more then you,

That's good. You can't imagine how many evil sinners come onto this website proclaiming themselves geniuses who know better than us.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251409)
but I noticed that you have a subforum for exposing new age religions such as Wicca

I need to correct you on that. We have a subforum for exposing false religions. This includes new age religions, but also the older cults as well. After all, Islam and Hinduism are equally as false and illegitimate as Scientology and Rastafarianism.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251409)
and I have quite a bit knowledge on them and I would like to contribute so you can recognize them and their symbols as well as messages in public.

But you just told us "I am not saying that I know more than you." While new intelligence on Satan and his wicked works is always welcome, you're not in a position to see right from wrong. You need to convert from the atheist cult and get right with Christ Jesus :bowdown::jesus:, and then you will have the necessary mental framework to contribute meaningfully to this body of knowledge.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251409)
I hope that you will see fit to accept me here, even though I am "unsaved". I will not post anything that opposes the rules.

A non-Christian can only ever be tolerated, NEVER accepted. Follow the KJV 1611 Holy Bible to the letter, and we'll welcome you with open arms as a brother. Reject Christ, and we'll see you in Hell, from Heaven.

Ravenmann 05-08-2019 08:13 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Lukes (Post 1251415)
That's good. You can't imagine how many evil sinners come onto this website proclaiming themselves geniuses who know better than us.



I need to correct you on that. We have a subforum for exposing false religions. This includes new age religions, but also the older cults as well. After all, Islam and Hinduism are equally as false and illegitimate as Scientology and Rastafarianism.



But you just told us "I am not saying that I know more than you." While new intelligence on Satan and his wicked works is always welcome, you're not in a position to see right from wrong. You need to convert from the atheist cult and get right with Christ Jesus :bowdown::jesus:, and then you will have the necessary mental framework to contribute meaningfully to this body of knowledge.




A non-Christian can only ever be tolerated, NEVER accepted. Follow the KJV 1611 Holy Bible to the letter, and we'll welcome you with open arms as a brother. Reject Christ, and we'll see you in Hell, from Heaven.

Right and wrong is subjective. What I meant to say is that I have the knowledge about those religions that have been gained from internal sources, such as interacting with some long standing members or obtaining and reading some hard to find book that gives us some insight on how those cults work. Also, please note that atheists are not a cult in any way.
So, that's about it. I hope I can be tolerated, if not accepted.

Mary Etheldreda 05-08-2019 08:25 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251419)
So, that's about it. I hope I can be tolerated, if not accepted.

So far you're hardly tolerable. You keep talking about yourself and what you want. We're here to talk about JESUS and what HE wants.


:innocent:

Isabella White 05-08-2019 08:28 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLarry (Post 1251394)
Dearest Granny Isabella,


If this muslim terrorist insults you just let me know and I will get on the next plane (unless he's on it) to defend you. You know the burden I have for the homersekshul and he's already trying to insult me - er, them - and I'm not fooled by his pretend politeness. I know as a muslime his inherent nature is violence and divisiveness. I bet he didn't even vote for Trump and probably wants to see Bob Barr impeached.

Note how he won't reveal his age because he doesn't want us to know he is a 64 year old from Iraq or somewhere like that, planning the next 9/11. May GOD (not allah, piss be on him) save his soul.

PS: Raven, once again you use pejorative linguisticisms to describe the homer. We do NOT insult people here and these statements do not set well with our Dept of Faith. Nonetheless, I hope the LORD GOD blesses you on our friendly and welcoming forums.

Oh, thank you so very kindly, dear Great-Grandbaby Brother Larry! You are so thoughtful to this old Granny, and Lord knows you mean the world to me. But I'll be OK, so please don't fret about it. This old bird didn't get to be 84 just by having Boy Scouts help me crossing the street. No, sirree! The Lord Himself has been with me through thick and thin, fat and lean, dry and wet, and I am ever-grateful to Him! Why, just this morning, I was singing one of my favorite hymns whilst playing the pump organ in my parlor, and the second verse, in particular, seemed so significant to me:


From "O, God, Our Help in Ages Past" --
Under the shadow of your throne
Your saints have dwelt secure;
Sufficient is Your Arm alone,
And our defense is sure.


Now, you just have yourself a blessed day, Dear Beloved One. And if that Mooslim bothers you, just let me know and I'll be sure to give him a piece of my Godly mind! Lovingly, Granny Isabella.

Didymus Much 05-08-2019 08:36 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251409)
No need for hostility, Pastor Ezekiel...

Waltzing in somewhere you at least expect to not be welcomed with open arms, you go and TELL the guy in charge how to react to your presence?

On that note, even though your sex (and sexuality) may be open questions yet, at least they know you're white.

Quote:

...I literally promise that I am here to learn about christianity...
Oh ho ho ho, that's rich! You want to learn about Christianity? READ THE BIBLE. It's all there. Even the bits where it says that anyone who isn't Saved™ (to their standards, natch) is a lying bastard who lies constantly, and you just lied right there.

Isabella White 05-08-2019 08:39 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251404)
Yes. I do know what a VPN is. I will find a way to prove my authenticity, one way or another ;)

Librarian, you say? I always loved books and libraries. They just have a beautiful feeling to them. To disprove inconsistencies in my story, I will disclose it. I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina. Only muslim country in all of Europe.

Rest assured: we are waiting for this authentication. I might mention that we have many trolls swinging their way through our Hallowed gates here, so we've heard all of this before.

You're right about how libraries can have a beautiful feeling to them, especially when they have shelves and shelves full of books that glorify God Almighty. But there are also times when libraries have a dark, sinister side to them, when we find that LIE-beral books have crept their way onto the shelves. As former head librarian, and now gladly volunteering my time, I am able to purge the shelves of current, trendy books, such as anything to do with the hoax of climate change, or the assertion of those LGBT-rights people, or the evils of medical abominations (such as "helpful guides" for the troubled tranny type.) This coming weekend, I will be hosting the monthly book-burning ceremony where these books shall "somehow or another" find their way onto the piles of burning leaves from my garden. Sincerely, Isabella W.

P.S. Speaking of glorifying God Almighty, I would like to leave a verse of Scripture with you. Food for thought! And after you've read this, please consider and remember: without Christ as your Savior, YOU are stepping closer and closer to the jaws of eternal flames in HELL. Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high".

Dana723 05-08-2019 10:25 PM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
So tell us, why do you spit on our Precious Lord and Saviour's bloodied and broken body, which by the way he endured for your sake, and reject His love gift? I hope you do enjoy Hell.


Quote:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

Basilissa 05-09-2019 12:05 AM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251414)
I don't really know if the claim about homosexual animals is true. I have grown up with animals and never witnessed anything like that. Could be a queer propaganda.

I totally agree. Anecdotal evidence (like what you just provided) is way better than objective observation, systematical data gathering, statistical analysis, and other ways scientists arrive at their crazy conclusions.

Wew, dear, you truly possess the mind of a True Christian™! I hope you'll start reading the Bible soon, that's the first step towards accepting is as 100% true and following it to the letter. I will be praying for you. :pray:

Quote:

Yes. Well every religious community true to itself should strive to survive and remain pure and true to their teachings. Just the way it is.
I guess I agree. While Christianity (as well as Islam) made a path for itself by centuries of "convert or die" strategy, I guess we don't want to convert literally everybody - after all, God didn't create Hell for it to stay empty, did He? :giggle:

Dr Laurence Niles 05-09-2019 07:46 AM

Re: Greetings from an atheist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenmann (Post 1251390)
Well, I think that faggots and queers are something that should not be normalized ans accepted..

I agree completely.

There should be no lengths that a good Christian should not go to make a gaywise turn normal. My understanding is that gay conversion therapy has an excellent record and ex-gays can go on to live long and fruitful lives as productive Christians when they marry and have children as proof that the choice to follow Christ is more powerful than the choice to be attracted by the same sex.

YIC


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