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WilliamJenningsBryan 08-12-2019 08:53 AM

British Vatican Conspiracy
 
In our Revolutionairy War American colonistis knew how easy it was to defeat the British, their soldiers were called "Redcoats" because they all wore flaming gay red coats. They were easy to pick off from a mile away. Not learning their lession, they tried it again in 1812 and lost.

It's hard to say what the British are up to this time. Could it be they are trying to rid themselves of their increasingly useless Church of England and their burdensome poofta clergy and sell (or just give it back) to the Vatican?

Perhaps there is a sinister plot to join forces with Satan's sodomite empire and undermine God's favorite country again? The NWO strikes again - one world religion under one world government under the yoke of communism?

Stay tuned to Pope Watch.

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‘British coup’: Author claims UK gov’t may have helped in Pope Francis’ 2013 election

August 1, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – Catherine Pepinster, the former editor-in-chief of the British Catholic weekly, The Tablet, published two years ago a book in which she claims that the British Foreign Office may have played an important role in the 2013 papal election that resulted in Pope Francis' election. Based on many interviews with key figures such as Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor and the British Ambassador to the Holy See, Nigel Baker, she claims that the UK “played a crucial role in the election of the Argentinian destined to shake up the Catholic Church.”

In her 2017 book The Keys and the Kingdom. The British and the Papacy from John Paul II to Francis, Pepinster deals with the growing relations between Rome and England over the course of several decades, especially also in light of the history of the Reformation and the particular situation of Catholics in England.

Pepinster sees that, with the election of Pope Francis, a new sort of relationship is developing. She states that “Britons have more influence in Rome today than they ever have done before in the last 100 years.”

The reason as to why the British government would take interest in the election of a new pope is also explained by the author. She quotes here Nigel Baker, the Ambassador to the Holy See, who said in 2014: “We have an embassy to the Holy See because of the extent of the Holy See soft power network, the influence of the pope, and the global reach and perspective of papal diplomacy focused on preserving and achieving peace, on the protection of the planet, and on bringing people out of poverty.”

Pepinster recounts in her book how the British government, through the person of the British ambassador to the Holy See, was instrumental in setting up a meeting where key cardinals networked with lesser-known cardinals to promote Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio for pope.

Calling Bergoglio's election a "very British coup," Pepinster's work suggests that a secular power was involved in the election of a pope.

Pepinster writes that already under Pope Benedict XVI, there was a time of “consolidation for the relationship between the British and the papacy.”

“That growing connection between the papacy and the United Kingdom,” she adds, “was in many ways a recognition of the usefulness of the two entities' own global networks. It is worth examining next how, in March 2013, one occasion did bring these networks together to such dramatic and significant effect that it would change the Catholic Church's course of history.”

Let us now examine how the British were to a certain extent involved in the election of Pope Francis, a man “who would shake up not only the Catholic Church but its relations with the world, and who would try to reshape the institution of the papacy itself.”

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https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/b...uthor-suggests

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 08-12-2019 10:03 AM

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It's difficult to know what to make of this, Brother WJB. "Ms" Pepinster is obviously a dubious source of (mis)information, being not just one of Satan's wafer-munching minions but also having infiltrated the Anglican Center in Rome, where she acts as the UK's Development Officer.
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Originally Posted by WilliamJenningsBryan (Post 1256474)
It's hard to say what the British are up to this time. Could it be they are trying to rid themselves of their increasingly useless Church of England and their burdensome poofta clergy and sell (or just give it back) to the Vatican?

I don't suppose even the British know what they're up to. If they did, that would be a first! Financially speaking, just giving it away would make a lot of sense, so they probably won't do that. A report from a non-Catlick newspaper less than a year ago tells us:

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CofE affiliation has fallen to just 2 per cent among adults aged 18 to 24, while the majority of every age group now has no religion, the British Social Attitudes (BSA) survey found.
The number of Britons who describe themselves as part of the church has more than halved since 2002, from 31 per cent to 14 per cent. The number who actually attend sermons is far lower.
The sharpest drop was among 45- to 54-year-olds, only 11 per cent of whom identify with the CofE compared to 35 per cent in 2002.
The strongest affiliation with the church was among over-60s, but even there a minority of 30 per cent say they belong to the denomination.
It is the decline in young members which is particularly ominous for the CofE, however, because evidence suggests people rarely turn to organised religion later in life.
I suppose this could be an opportunity for Landover to increase our membership and tithe revenues, but is it worth it? Do we want these endlessly whining people and their soon-to-be-worthless currency? I suspect not.

handmaiden 08-12-2019 04:43 PM

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“That growing connection between the papacy and the United Kingdom,” she adds, “was in many ways a recognition of the usefulness of the two entities' own global networks. It is worth examining next how, in March 2013, one occasion did bring these networks together to such dramatic and significant effect that it would change the Catholic Church's course of history.


"Two" entities global networks? I thought it was called the Church of England because that's as far as its network went.


I don't see millions of impoverished peasants attending services at the Church of England. They do love their idolatrous Catholic Church, though.

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 08-12-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by handmaiden (Post 1256485)
I don't see millions of impoverished peasants attending services at the Church of England. They do love their idolatrous Catholic Church, though.

You won't see millions of anyone attending their blasphemous rituals. The population of England is around 56 million, of whom only 722,000 attended CofE services in 2017. That's under 1.3% of the population and it's probably even less now, two years on. :thumbdown: Even the Catlicks have better attendance than that!

Dr. Anthony J. Toole 08-12-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey (Post 1256487)
You won't see millions of anyone attending their blasphemous rituals. The population of England is around 56 million, of whom only 722,000 attended CofE services in 2017. That's under 1.3% of the population and it's probably even less now, two years on. :thumbdown: Even the Catlicks have better attendance than that!

I suspect the reason for this is that entire cities have become overrun with Muslims. I would hazard that 98.7% of the population now attends mosques and prays 5 times a day to Allah. This is a warning to the rest of us what happens when you don't solve the immigration invasion infestation crisis.

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 08-12-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole (Post 1256488)
I suspect the reason for this is that entire cities have become overrun with Muslims. I would hazard that 98.7% of the population now attends mosques and prays 5 times a day to Allah. This is a warning to the rest of us what happens when you don't solve the immigration invasion infestation crisis.

You're not far wrong there, Dr Toole. There are a SHOCKING three and a half times as many Mooslims in England as there are people who attend Church of England services. And as for the Godless Hindoo, nobody even knows. Fortunately, most of them are from the Dot-Indian sub-continent and not the ghastly African varieties which infest France-istan. So at least they can cook a decent curry. :thumbsup:

MitzaLizalor 08-13-2019 11:24 AM

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In its youth the Anglicans were a feisty bunch. Catholics and atheists were burnt alive, heretics were deprogrammed. Properly deprogrammed. No messing around with identity politics or requests for advice from Cours européennes des droits de l'homme. Eventually the zeal wore off. Their message was diluted by universal suffrage and every luxury imported from the colonies. In an English city, probably Coventry, I was relaxing in a restaurant where some establishment types were bemoaning their new pastor. Whether a bishop or a vicar was not revealed but I felt obliged to hear them out (I was seated at a different table but contrived to stay there for most of the afternoon) and what a thorough complaint it was.

Evidently the wretch was going in for "Missionary Stuff" one sneered. "What does he think he's doing?"

The other one snorted. "We're already Christians!" I think they were drinking port. "What we want is a nice traditional service, no missionary stuff, ten minute sermon.."

I gathered their complaint addressed evangelism and perhaps an altar call. To make disciples as commanded by Jesus. Very little commanded by Jesus is featured in the Church of England if they even consider it a feature at all. Christ's actual words are more like a bug and all the villagers threw them in the pond.

Luke 22:35-37 nd he [Jesus] said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

For a few the architecture is appreciated as much as the tradition of plainsong but for everyone else, how long before the real estate is repurposed and Christ expunged forever?


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