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You got part of that right, I am definately not right in the head. Makes life more intresting I must say, but no I never rode the short buss. I always wondered why they made short busses? One would think it would be more cost effective to simply use one of the many full size ones they have sitting in the yard half the time?
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You WHAT! There is a Count Dracula Cereal! :rofl3:
AHahahahahahahahahahahaha! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhaha... hahaha... ha... hehe... he... Newho... Goth is just a stereotype. Therefore you'd have to be live up to all of those points to be a true goth. Anyone who doesn't fulfil them all if not more is only a 'wannabe' or else something completely different. Anyone can portray five of these points if you look hard enough. Although the whole claiming to be a goth is a bit of a dead cert |
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If you thought that post was worthwhile, you were sadly mistaken. Get saved or shut up. "Goth" isn't a stereotype, it's a cancer eating at the heart of right thinking society and turning our youth into suicidal wiccan Satanist liberals. Get your facts right, please.
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It's a pentagram for crying out loud! She might as well be cutting off cat heads and throwing them at schoolkids(thats what Goths do). You cannot wear the sign of the Devil and expect to be treated like a normal person. Goths are of the Devil for that very reason, the ones who wear that stuff and KNOW what it means and the ones who don't have a clue. Either way you're going to Hell. |
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BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA!!! Just like all people from Iowa are child rapists and animal sodomites |
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Again, there is no historic evidence to back up that vile statement. There is plenty of proof that Devil worshipers sacrifice animals and torment Christians.
Now if you're just going to toss unbased insults like a spanked baby then you can depart from our church forever. |
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We have had some unconfirmed sightings of goths in Australia wearing white, but then again everything in the Southern Hemisphere is reversed (even the water in their toilets swirl in the opposite direction). Goths that occasionally wander in around Freehold at night have a disproportionately high incidence of being run over and killed by automobiles. If you think of it logically, that is not the safest thing to do as you can't be seen very well. There may be some movement for goths to dress in white for safety reasons, although they seem to all want to die anyway. You could probably call them "Visigoths". |
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It's not just the Catholics who wear black. It's a surpriseingly large number of clergy. Then again they also wear white. Usually called vestments aren't they? I would have thought with the Cathlic faith being at it's highest numbers ever now that this would be there heyday?
I like the "Visigoths" throw in but shouldnt it be "Visagoths"? The correct spelling might confuse people with the germanic tribes from 300-700AD. |
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I would not like to confuse "Visagoths" with the well-known credit card trade name. The Germanic Tribes sacked the Roman Provinces and destroyed civilization, much like the present day goths are attempting to do. |
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While percentage is important couldn't that decline be traced to the unmitigated explosion of population in the far east? Specifically India and China? I mean when 1/6 of the worlds entire population is in one country(china) and they are all either Taoists or Buddhist that tends to dilute numbers a bit no?
I don't know if I'd say that the Goths destroyed the Romans so much as there own failure to maintain infrastructure, and highly corrupted political makeup did the work for them. The roman did continue on for another 700 years after the Visigoths (till roughly 1450AD) That being said maybe "Visablegoths" would work better? We could buy them all high visibility jackets so they could still wear black at night, but reduce the number of roadside accidents? So it's not what they wear then it's what they believe? So then I asked before I think(don't really feel like looking) Could you have a plain cloths goth? and if you did have a person dressed normally who believed in the same things as goths do how would you define them? are they still a Goth? |
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I had something that I needed to add-on to the message that I left. I didn't expect to see that someone had responded so early in the morning. Anyway, I don't know who Fred Thompson is, but I don't necessarily think I'd fit the catalyst for being drafted. Anyway, this is what I wanted to add-on to my previous comment:
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Let's see how I do, shall we? I'll delete all the ones that don't apply to me. SO, logically, the ones left are the ones that do apply.
1-Frequently wears black clothing. (Note: I assume this includes very very dark blue.) 6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. 7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically. 8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports. (Note: I I am retarded at sports being randomly thrown in there.) 14-Complains of boredom. (Note: ... Seriously. Whoever put that in there... yeah...) 15-Sleeps too excessively or too little. (Note: Go go 4 and a half hours of sleep a night!) 16-Is excessively awake during the night. (Note: Pfft. Daylight is overrated.) 17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.) (Note: See above note.) 18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy. 19-Spends large amounts of time alone. 20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through meditation.) (Note: One might think this would go into the previous one. And I happen to request a bit of quiet so I can read. Oh noez!) 21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. (Note: No one does this. Nope. No one. I'm a deviation from the norm for requesting this of my parents.) 27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.) (Note: Oh no!) 28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature. (Note: Role-playing is epic. Come, join our gothic ranks and play some Final Fantasy!) 29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer. (Note: When am I ever _not_ on the computer?) 32-Expresses an interest in sex. (Note: Hormones FTL. Though compared to my sexfeind peers, I seem quite uninterested. Hmm...) 33-Masturbates. (Note: This is rather personal, don't you think?) 34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual. (Note: I r bi. Get over it...) Total count: 18 I win. |
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Wow you Christan Extremists sure are dumb
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I shall do the same as PhoenixOwl has done:
1-Frequently wears black clothing. 2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. 3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish. 5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos. 6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. 7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically. 8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.(Trust me, these things have already died for me) 9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan. 12-Is suicidal and/or depressed. 14-Complains of boredom. 15-Sleeps too excessively or too little. 16-Is excessively awake during the night. 17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. 18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy. 19-Spends large amounts of time alone. 20-Requests time alone and quietness. 21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. 22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this. 25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.(Just so you know, it's Count Chocula). 26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. 27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. 28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature. 29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer. 30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.(Note: This is called headbanging). 32-Expresses an interest in sex.(This is normal, is it not?) 33-Masturbates. |
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1-Frequently wears black clothing. 2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. 3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish. 4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols. 5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos. 6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.) 7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically. 8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports. 11-Drinks alcohol. 14-Complains of boredom. 15-Sleeps too excessively or too little. 16-Is excessively awake during the night. 18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy. 19-Spends large amounts of time alone. 20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through meditation.) 21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. 22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this. 27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.) 28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature. 29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer. 30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. 31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner. 32-Expresses an interest in sex. 33-Masturbates. wow 27 out of 37 i must be possed by the devil wont someone please save me |
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Perhaps that is the most telling really. It's the loss of influence, both over the general population, and politically, that tells more about the decline then the raw numbers?
I would definately not say I was trivializeing the fall of the empire. The fall of Rome plunged the greater part of the western world into darkness for hundreds of years. Simple things like sewage and running water were lost in large part untill the 1800's(unless you lived in asia or the mideast. They kept such knowledge for the duration, go fig?) While the invasion of the various barbarian tribes, be it the goths, the mongols, the celts, the normans, or the vikeings, certainly didn't help the roman empire. I am more inclined to say that they were a symptom more then a cause. With Rome's internal weekening it's military might, and thus it's ability to repel such invaders, began to fall off dramatically. Had it not been for there internal conflicts and decedance perhaps they could have kept there vigil of watching the exterior. Perhaps helping to prevent the various invasions? Remember at one time Rome controlled the entire known world and had the largest, and most displined military of all nations. Something had to hurt that military might before an invasion and eventuall fall of the empire could occur. In all honesty I find the very term "Goth" to be amuseing. Especially considering that the gothic era was known for being "light, and airy" That was what the movement was about. Thus you get massive open structures such as Notra Dame. Really the "Goth" movement has more in common with the Romanesque period. Dark heavy structures, closed in and really defined by the explosion of the church during the age. There again useing an archetectural term to define your particular style of dress, or attitude seems a little silly. At least grunge explained why people dressed the way they did. Perhaps a person who is a "Goth" could actually be called a "Dark Victorian" seeing as how there inspiration for dress seems to come from this era, only more black? |
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Ever seen a Goth? They are anything but "light and airy".
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These goths seem more 'light and airy:
http://www.metropolis.co.jp/xmg/592/...lolita-372.jpg There you go, there's some happy goths. :) |
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Post ritualistic gang orgy to Satan. I suppose that would make any harlot smile.
The average weight for a Goth female is a rotund 280lbs with the vast majority pushing closer to the 300lb mark. There are a few rare thin ones who are lithe enough to still attract mating teams for wanton promiscuosity, but they are a rarity. Most are self absorbed whores who fornicate at the drop of a nose ring and have weekly abortions. |
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When it comes to me, you're correct about the self-absorbed part; you're wrong about the rest though. I'm 117lb and I've never had sex, though I've had plenty of opportunity to do so. :)
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I dig the Redhead in the background in white. Not bad at all :) I'm more of the surfer girl type though. Must be from haveing grown up at the ocean? Although my X was a redhead.
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They have pale skin and cannot tolerate the Sun. Their hair is as though bathed in blood. Evil beings to be sure. Jesus prefers Blonde, Blue-eyed normal American Christian people. :innocent: |
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Funny thing about that is fair haired people typically suffer the same problem with over sensitivity to sunlight as redheads do. Then again my X was a natural blond so the red hair was actually a dye job. At least the last I saw it was red......been a while. Then again thats the way things are with x's aren't they? In actuality I prefer brunetts, always have, but always seem to date blonds. Never understood that one?
Back to the goths though, does the fact that the goth idea arose out of the punk movement have any influence on there being good or ill? In all actuality goths are essentially superficial punks. They have none of the political, or social movement desires that punks do. So essentially a goth is a pretender punk. Intresting the sociology of the goth no? |
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Researching Satanists through my personal experiences with them I would beg to differ. The females usually weigh around 280lbs. Thats just the way it is. The males are generally very skinny(VDs and drugs) and covered in pantyhose and makeup with extremely feminine appearances. They all have low self esteem issues which is why they choose Satan over Jesus. Satan tempts them with sex and drugs and they are too weak to resist so they paint themselves up like homosexual corpses and do the gang sex thing in cemeteries and parkinglots and pretty much anywhere they can get a few moments alone. In addition to eating their young, they have abortions on a regular basis which explains the glaring lack of infant Satanists as well as the weight of the existing ones. |
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No. Goth is not a sub-category of Punk. Punk is an entirely different social group than Goth. Goth is more of a darker style than punk, whereas punk is an anarchic type of group that is more, how should I put this... Upbeat I should say? I'm not entirely sure. But listen to the differences in the music and look at some of the differences in clothing and personality. Goth is more brooding and sulky and the fashion style is much more darker. Punk is a more upbeat, anti-authority type of life style and everyone where's all colors of the rainbow. They even dye their hair like that, whereas Goths and other people that have dark personalities(such as myself) have very dark hair and don't necessarily have any say so in politics whatsoever. I plan on voting next year, but I couldn't necessarily give a rat's ass about who wins the election. I was gonna vote for Stephen Colbert, but since he decided not to run, there goes that plan.
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Goth, punk, emo, queer, all exactly the same. Devil worshipers who mock God and are headed for the lake of fire.
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My o so young and missinformed friends. If your going to call your self part of a group at least have the decency to understand where that groups roots are grown from. As a young man(ok so maybe not so young anymore) who was alive when the "goth" movement came into being I suppose I should enlighten you as to what you actually belong to. Firstly you were born in the early 80's yes thats right it wasn't the day you first put on your makeup. You were given your name in an article first published in the UK rock weekly titled "The face of Punk Gothique" yes thats right PUNK. You are a subculture to punk. Punk is essentially your daddy. You were inspired by the likes of Siouxsie and the Banshees, and Bauhaus. So in the end your name is nothing more then a label for a type of music. Next time my Mallgoth friend(if you don't know what it means get out of Hot Topic and go pick up a book about your own subculture) try researching the group you want to be a part of so when someone that dosen't belong to it asks you a question about it, you can answer it intelligently. and No I'm not against goths, and I'm not inherintly against the Landover, I'm mostly against ignorance. I'm also mostly for fair informed discussion as well.
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Oh thats funny my Pastor Eziekiel or whatever the crap your name is. Send me a PM threatening me. Haha, your funny know. Your just angry that you are being told facts, facts and opinions OTHER THAN WHAT YOUR OWN ARE. Get over yourself you self loathing FAG. You tell me to CLEAN MY LANGUAGE UP AND IN THAT SAME MESSAGE YOU CALL ME A FAG! What is your problem? I am a 17 year old girl, and i like men. Does that amuse you to make fun of a 17 yr old girl? Hmm? Get a life and stop spending all your life in Church and on the internet ABOUT CHURCH. Get a real job, a new religion, and learn how to act. You may be about 9 years older than I am, but i think i have proven that i am by far alot more mature than you ever will be. May Satan Be with you hun. :devil:
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Ya he is rather fond of doing that. I got the same thing on my first day here from him to. I kinda feel like it's an initiation, but now were the best of friends right Zeke ;)
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