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IAmGamerFun 12-30-2016 08:51 PM

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Look, there is no such thing as white magic, there is only black magic. All magic is evil. Just like you said, magic is magic. And let me say this again: MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS DO NOT BELIEVE IN MAGIC, THEY DONT PRACTICE MAGIC, AND THEY PROHIBIT THE USE OF MAGIC! And the difference between Joseph smith and leaders like hitler , Mussolini, and Stalin is that Joseph smith didn't take advantage of the countries desperation. I'm just gonna refer to hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin as the three leaders. The three leaders came to power during their country's darkest time. Germany, Russia, and Italy were all losing power. They were failing economically, socially, and their national security and military force was completely unorganized. When the three leaders came to power, they promised to make their country great again. Unlike Donald trump though, the three leaders only became leaders for personal selfish desire, or to get rid of a certain group of people in their country.

Roland 12-30-2016 08:58 PM

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The most important question is: Are you adding to the Word of God? Either a yes or a no will do. Your reference will be the Bible (KJV).

Mary Etheldreda 12-30-2016 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200619)
Look, there is no such thing as white magic, there is only black magic. All magic is evil. Just like you said, magic is magic. And let me say this again: MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS DO NOT BELIEVE IN MAGIC, THEY DONT PRACTICE MAGIC, AND THEY PROHIBIT THE USE OF MAGIC!

Then you don't believe those undergarments have protective powers any more? Inasmuch as you do not defile it, but are true and faithful to your covenants, you no longer believe "it will be a shield and a protection to you against the power of the destroyer until you have finished your work here on earth?"

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And the difference between Joseph smith and leaders like hitler , Mussolini, and Stalin is...
There are lots of differences. You asked why someone would create something by saying things that would make people hate them. My point is charismatic people convince people to follow them despite doing hateful things.


You might consider learning about your church's history and theology before you go off and try to convince others to join it.

IAmGamerFun 12-30-2016 10:30 PM

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No we are not adding to the word of God. Since the records that became the Book of Mormon was created before the writings of the New Testament. And the whole thing about the garments I can't really explain. I only turned 18 this year and garments are something I haven't learned much about yet since it's an adult thing. But I do know that garments isn't magic, it's spiritual.

IAmGamerFun 12-30-2016 10:35 PM

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And I wasn't convincing anyone to join my church. Go to the very first post I made and read it, including the replies people made to my comment. And you will see that I did not ask anyone to join once. But please don't tell me to learn more about my own religion. The things you hear about my church are probably either fake or belong to other so called "Mormon branches" like the flds. Please be careful what you read on the Internet. It might not be true.

Basilissa 12-30-2016 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200638)
No we are not adding to the word of God. Since the records that became the Book of Mormon was created before the writings of the New Testament.

:rofl:

Thank you for making me laugh. That was really very funny!

Claiming that there was a whole set of writings completely unknown for nearly two millennia until that guy who liked to sleep with many ladies came around!

:rofl3:

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And the whole thing about the garments I can't really explain. I only turned 18 this year and garments are something I haven't learned much about yet since it's an adult thing. But I do know that garments isn't magic, it's spiritual.
So... you don't wear any underwear at all? Or are you just not using the magic underwear, just the normal stuff?

IAmGamerFun 12-30-2016 10:58 PM

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I apologize for you to think the way you think. To laugh and make fun of my beliefs, even though I haven't insulted any of you once. Real mature if I do say so myself. So you keep thinking the way you think. Frankly I don't care much myself. I only came in here to say that not all bronies are the way you make them out to be. So my job here is done. You can keep thinking the way you think, and i won't judge you for your beliefs. Have a good day sir.

handmaiden 12-30-2016 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200638)
No we are not adding to the word of God. Since the records that became the Book of Mormon was created before the writings of the New Testament. And the whole thing about the garments I can't really explain. I only turned 18 this year and garments are something I haven't learned much about yet since it's an adult thing. But I do know that garments isn't magic, it's spiritual.

Curious, do the writings of the Book of Mormon reference Jesus at all? Because a half awake Christian scholar can find "types and shadows" of Our Lord Jesus in the Old Testament.


And if Jesus is indeed, "the author and finisher of our faith", why would God release a book that doesn't tell us about His Son before He sent Him to do what He knew He had to do since before the invention of--well, anything?


Seriously, Jesus talked about the Old Testament like, all the time, because it was part and parcel of His claim to Authority as God's point man on earth. If Jesus knew about some other scriptures that His Dad had given to mankind to communicate His Big Reveal, then why no mention?


Are you suggesting that Jesus held out on His own apostles? Why would He do such a thing when He charged them with the sacred mission to preach His gospel? Jesus flashed a big light to blind Saul/Paul so that Paul would hear clearly when Jesus spoke to him directly. Jesus laid a lot of responsibility on Paul's shoulders, but He didn't clue him in on some other critical scriptures?


Wow. You are blowing my mind. God sure does like deceiving His chosen prophets. . . Wait, that doesn't seem right, does it? Hmm . . .deceiving people, now whose MO does that sound like?


Cynically Yours,
Handmaiden

IAmGamerFun 12-30-2016 11:18 PM

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The Book of Mormon talks about Jesus, but he only appears in America after his crucifixion. That is the only time Jesus appears as himself in the Book of Mormon. So maybe the reason why Jesus didn't bring it up with his apostles was because it was unknown to all of them except for God.

handmaiden 12-30-2016 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200646)
The Book of Mormon talks about Jesus, but he only appears in America after his crucifixion. That is the only time Jesus appears as himself in the Book of Mormon. So maybe the reason why Jesus didn't bring it up with his apostles was because it was unknown to all of them except for God.

And yet the Holy Spirit came to His Disciples en mass within a few weeks after His resurrection. And God directed the Gospel writers and the other Apostles to write out His Truth for the early church so that they would know everything they needed to know to follow Him.

Again, why would God hold out on His Own followers when He was showing them that He was the Truth, the Light and the Way? Why would He send them out to the world to proclaim Salvation and teach them to worship Him when He Himself knew that He was only providing a partial playbook?


You just said that God knew about the book. If people needed the information in the book to be right with God, He would have given it to them when He was providing them with the Blood Sacrifice that He provided them to be right with God.


Head-shakingly Yours,
Handmaiden

Basilissa 12-30-2016 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200646)
The Book of Mormon talks about Jesus, but he only appears in America after his crucifixion. That is the only time Jesus appears as himself in the Book of Mormon. So maybe the reason why Jesus didn't bring it up with his apostles was because it was unknown to all of them except for God.

:facepalm:

Jesus is God, dear.

Mary Etheldreda 12-30-2016 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200639)
And I wasn't convincing anyone to join my church. Go to the very first post I made and read it, including the replies people made to my comment. And you will see that I did not ask anyone to join once. But please don't tell me to learn more about my own religion. The things you hear about my church are probably either fake or belong to other so called "Mormon branches" like the flds. Please be careful what you read on the Internet. It might not be true.

Or, it might be very much true, but embarrassing when the smoke and mirrors of the pseudo-spiritual aspect is removed and divine tradition is revealed to be 19th century man-made rituals dressed up with some Old Testament spice. The quotes are from your own endowment ceremony, and Mormons have traditionally believed these garments will protect them from fire, bullets, knives and other assaults if the person wearing the garments have kept all of their temple covenants. If they were wrong, the church never corrected them. In fact, many believe it today still.

But how interesting that the most important parts of your religion are tucked away in secret, only to be revealed when you're deeply invested in the ceremony, surrounded by family and church members when emotions run deep and rational thought is suppressed. Until you go through these ceremonies, your own religion's beliefs are still kept secret from you. After the ceremonies, you're only allowed to talk about them in the Temple, which requires an oath for you to pass. So should you doubt your church's beliefs and are unable to take this oath, no one will talk with you about these beliefs. But, should you take that oath in good faith and then ask your bishop about theological inconsistencies, you'll be told you simply need faith. This, my friend, is why I suggest you learn about the teachings of your church. Look into them with an open mind, seeking only the truth and not validation, "If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation.If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed." (President J. Reuben Clark)

Pim Pendergast 12-30-2016 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200577)
But let's just say that Joseph smith did indeed wrote the Book of Mormon without divine intervention. Remember that Joseph smith was a poor farmer boy with very little education, and they didn't write the way the Book of Mormon is written in, so he had to have some kind of artifact or records in order to speak that way.

It's written in pseudo-Elizabethan English, mixed with the English of the 19th century.

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He also prophesied that tobacco and alcohol is bad for the human body. Back then tobacco was something not only used for casual use, but for medical use. In fact chapels were filled with the horrific smell of tobacco smoke back then. No one believed him, but wouldn't you look at that, over 100 years later, it was proven that tobacco was bad for the human body.
So what about all the historical inaccuracies in the BOM? There's no evidence that elephants roamed North America at the time of Ether. And we know that horses, sheep, goats, cattle, wheat and barley were introduced by Europeans.

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Oh and then there is this tiny little verse that means a lot. 1. Nephi 3:10 And it came to pass that when we had gone up to the land of Jerusalem, I and my brethren did consult one another. Do you see why that is a major point? No? Ok well let me point it out "gone up to the land of Jerusalem" it's only Jerusalem that they say it like that. The reason why that's a big deal, is that they are literally going up to Jerusalem, as in the city is on a hill, and a steep one at that. Joseph smith wouldn't known about that unless he was extremely educated and had access to ancient artifacts or had divine help. If he was extremely educated, that means he wasn't a poor farmer boy, and if he had access to ancient records, he still needed a translator, something that didn't exist for ancient languages at that time.
That just shows He "borrowed" from the Bible when inventing his new religion.

Is 10:32 As yet shall he remain at Nob that day: he shall shake his hand against the mount of the daughter of Zion, the hill of Jerusalem.

Is 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1200654)
:facepalm:

Jesus is God, dear.

Interestingly, Joseph Smith originally believed it too, but Mormons today will tell you God and Jesus and the Holy Ghost are three separate, individual entities. Smith changed this view regarding the nature of God over time. One needs only to read the originals against the modern version to see the changes in theology (which is not hard to do as there are over 100,000 changes to theBook of Mormon).

Examples include:

And he said unto me, Behold, the virgin whom thouseest, is the mother of God, after the manner of the flesh. (1 Nephi 3; 1830)
vs
And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest isthe mother of the Son of God, after the manner of the flesh. (current)

and

And the angel said unto me, behold the Lamb of God, yea,even the Eternal Father! (1 Nephi 3; 1830)
vs
And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea,even the Son of the Eternal Father! (current)

And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he wastaken by the people; yea, the Everlasting God, was judgedof the world; (1 Nephi 11:32; 1830)
vs
And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he wastaken by the people; yea, the Son of the everlasting Godwas judged of the world(current)

These last records…shall make known to all kindreds,tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the EternalFather and the Savior of the world (1 Nephi 13:40; 1830)
vs
1 Nephi 13:40:These last records…shall make known to all kindreds,tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of theEternal Father, and the Savior of the world (current)

Then again, the Book of Mormon hasn't been fully corrected, and passages that reveal the Trinitarian belief can still be found in it today:

Behold, I am he who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem my people. Behold, I am Jesus Christ. I am the Father and the Son. In me shall all mankind have life, and that eternally, even they who shall believe on my name; and they shall become my sons and my daughters.
And never have I showed myself unto man whom I have created, for never has man believed in me as thou hast. Seest thou that ye are created after mine own image? Yea, even all men were created in the beginning after mine own image. (Ether 3:14-15)


As you can see Sister, the Mormons are theologically a mess. But what kind of intelligence can one expect from a theology that was created by a charlatan who convinced a bunch of gullible fools that God told him to have sex with their wives?

handmaiden 12-31-2016 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda (Post 1200661)



As you can see Sister, the Mormons are theologically a mess. But what kind of intelligence can one expect from a theology that was created by a charlatan who convinced a bunch of gullible fools that God told him to have sex with their wives?


The Apostle Paul only told men to have sex with their own wives, and he only allowed that so that they wouldn't get all sweaty thinking about sex at inconvenient moments.


I know that the Mormons like to downplay that whole polygamy thing but it really does seem like a horny fellow using fancy language to justify his behavior.


Sincerely Yours,
Handmaiden

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:11 AM

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Look, I said it once, I'll say it again. I'm done arguing, if you honestly believe Mormons are bad people and all of that, then please go ahead. I can't make you change your ways of thinking. I can only provide you with information hoping that you would understand. So maybe I'll say it again. I'm not gonna argue anymore. We both believe in God, we both believe in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and his resurrection, and we both read the same bible. So why are we even arguing? Honestly, we have the same beliefs, it's just we have a few things you wouldn't believe in, but we agree on similar things. So just remember to do your research right, check your sources, and understand that this wonderful country gives us freedom of religion, so there is no need for getting on someone else's religion.

Roland 12-31-2016 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200666)
[...]

Perhaps you can melt the gold from those plates into a bar and sell it for some profit?

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:20 AM

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Oh and one more thing, that is a great example of getting your sources correctly. Mormons don't believe in polygamy. That would belong to the fundamental Latter Day Saints. They claim they are real Mormons but they ruin our imagery by claiming they are Mormon.

Pim Pendergast 12-31-2016 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200666)
So just remember to do your research right, check your sources.

You obviously haven't done this with your own religious beliefs and, sadly, I doubt you will. You've just ignored the contradictions and falsehoods we've shown you. You haven't even made any attempt to address them. Are you afraid of what you'll find if you do?

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by handmaiden (Post 1200665)
I know that the Mormons like to downplay that whole polygamy thing but it really does seem like a horny fellow using fancy language to justify his behavior.

You have to appreciate the power of smooth talking that charlatan had. Can you imagine the conversations?

Joe: Hey Henry, I know this is gonna sound, well... a bit funny. But you see, last night the Holy Ghost came to me in a vision and told me I ought to marry your Zina.

Henry: Um, Joe, you know I love you like a brother, man, but she's my wife.

Joe: Yeah, yeah [scratches head]. It's just that, well... um... it's what Heavenly Father wants, and who am I to say no?

Henry: Seriously? Joe, we've been friends a long time, man. She's my wife.

Joe: I know, Henry. But think about how now that your bed'll be empty, young Abigail who lives down the road could warm it for you, right? I mean, you and Zina have had some squabbles terrible lately. I'll take good care of her and you can raise up Abigail to be the sweet little thing you like a woman to be. You can teach her just what to do in bed if'n you know what I mean! Think about it, man! A sweet young ass like that? All yours? You can train her up just the way you like, and you won't have to listen to Zina's long, boring stories any more? C'mon! Heavenly Father will reward you in Heaven. I promise.

Henry: Okay, okay. You'll talk to Abigail's father?

Joe: Sure! Sure I will! No problem! It'll be worked out by week's end!

Henry: Well, if Heavenly Father wants it...

Joe: He does!

Henry: Well, okay.

Joe: Great! Hey, when you send Zizi over, have her wear that saucy little number that makes her ass look like it's got its own wagon train under that bustle. Yeah! That'll do. Mmm-MMM! Okay, see you later!
Henry: 0.o

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:28 AM

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Actually no sir because here is an accurate source that will fix a lot of your arguements but there is a reason why I am not trying to address your arguements. Frankly because if I do, your either gonna say that's not what you heard, it's not true, or your gonna bring up another arguement. http://lifeafter.org/the-differences...n-flds-vs-lds/ There that's the answer to polygamy. But I have addressed some arguments like magic and garments. We don't believe in magic. But yet you guys are continuing to talk about it like you didn't even read it.

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200666)
Look, I said it once, I'll say it again. I'm done arguing, if you honestly believe Mormons are bad people and all of that, then please go ahead. I can't make you change your ways of thinking. I can only provide you with information hoping that you would understand. So maybe I'll say it again. I'm not gonna argue anymore. We both believe in God, we both believe in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and his resurrection, and we both read the same bible. So why are we even arguing? Honestly, we have the same beliefs, it's just we have a few things you wouldn't believe in, but we agree on similar things. So just remember to do your research right, check your sources, and understand that this wonderful country gives us freedom of religion, so there is no need for getting on someone else's religion.

But we don't have the same beliefs. For one, you think prancing around like a pony glorifies the LORD.

Also, I don't think Mormons are bad people. Just misguided. I wonder why you refuse to consider the information that goes against what you want to be true. Do you think that's a good policy in general when considering information and beliefs?

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda (Post 1200671)
You have to appreciate the power of smooth talking that charlatan had. Can you imagine the conversations?

Joe: Hey Henry, I know this is gonna sound, well... a bit funny. But you see, last night the Holy Ghost came to me in a vision and told me I ought to marry your Zina.

Henry: Um, Joe, you know I love you like a brother, man, but she's my wife.

Joe: Yeah, yeah [scratches head]. It's just that, well... um... it's what Heavenly Father wants, and who am I to say no?

Henry: Seriously? Joe, we've been friends a long time, man. She's my wife.

Joe: I know, Henry. But think about how now that your bed'll be empty, young Abigail who lives down the road could warm it for you, right? I mean, you and Zina have had some squabbles terrible lately. I'll take good care of her and you can raise up Abigail to be the sweet little thing you like a woman to be. You can teach her just what to do in bed if'n you know what I mean! Think about it, man! A sweet young ass like that? All yours? You can train her up just the way you like, and you won't have to listen to Zina's long, boring stories any more? C'mon! Heavenly Father will reward you in Heaven. I promise.

Henry: Okay, okay. You'll talk to Abigail's father?

Joe: Sure! Sure I will! No problem! It'll be worked out by week's end!

Henry: Well, if Heavenly Father wants it...

Joe: He does!

Henry: Well, okay.

Joe: Great! Hey, when you send Zizi over, have her wear that saucy little number that makes her ass look like it's got its own wagon train under that bustle. Yeah! That'll do. Mmm-MMM! Okay, see you later!
Henry: 0.o

Is this really what people think of mormons? This actually not only disgusts me but terrifies me. Sex is something sacred in the church. Something only done if we want to have a baby. It's not a pleasure, it's not a hobby, it is a means of reproduction. That is it. We don't do anything lustful, nothing pornographic, and nothing adulterated.

Roland 12-31-2016 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200674)
Is this really what people think of mormons? This actually not only disgusts me but terrifies me. Sex is something sacred in the church. Something only done if we want to have a baby. It's not a pleasure, it's not a hobby, it is a means of reproduction. That is it. We don't do anything lustful, nothing pornographic, and nothing adulterated.

So Joe didn´t take Henry´s wife to be his own?

Henry Poppendorfer 12-31-2016 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200672)
Actually no sir because here is an accurate source that will fix a lot of your arguements but there is a reason why I am not trying to address your arguements. Frankly because if I do, your either gonna say that's not what you heard, it's not true, or your gonna bring up another arguement. http://lifeafter.org/the-differences...n-flds-vs-lds/ There that's the answer to polygamy. But I have addressed some arguments like magic and garments. We don't believe in magic. But yet you guys are continuing to talk about it like you didn't even read it.

After reading this whole thing I still have no idea what it is you're trying to convey here. Mormons compromised some of their wicked beliefs for statehood because they are worldly and base, but we already knew that. Does that make Mormons suddenly okay? Hardly! As for magic, even the mainstream LDS has secret rites and rituals and initiations. Does Exodus 22:18 ring a bell to you? I suspect you have read too much of the wicked fanfiction that Joseph Smith cooked up. Revelation 22:18-19, young man. Consider reading the ACTUAL Bible.

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Roland (Post 1200675)
So Joe didn´t take Henry´s wife to be his own?

If they were fundamental Latter Day Saints, then yes that would have been a real conversation. But you don't seem to understand that fundemantal Latter Day Saints are different from Mormons or normal Latter Day Saints. Fun fact, while Joseph smith did indeed create the religion or at least the basis that I worship, he would not be welcomed in our church for his acts of polygamy. It's the same thing I was talking about bronies. You guys think all bronies are sexual and love dressing up as ponies, and they are gay and all that. But no, those are cloppers, the very thing that give bronies a bad name. If you met me in real life or saw me at a brony convention. You wouldn't believe I was a brony. Literally the only thing that would give me away would be a t shirt my friend got for me on Christmas. And a button that the same friend made for me. I think dressin up as a pony is weird and actually kind of stupid. So no that conversation did not happen if they were actual Mormons. And no I don't prance like a pony.

Pim Pendergast 12-31-2016 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200672)
Actually no sir because here is an accurate source that will fix a lot of your arguements but there is a reason why I am not trying to address your arguements. Frankly because if I do, your either gonna say that's not what you heard, it's not true

Get used to it. When you become a Mormon missionary and you encounter people of different faiths, are you just going to agree with them so that you won't hurt their feelings or make them feel uncomfortable, or are you going to try to challenge and undermine their false beliefs? You will definitely encounter people who try to turn the tables on you and question your faith. You will probably be taught pat answers to give in response, but based on what I've seen here, you don't seem to have any deep knowledge or conviction or understanding of your own faith. You might want to make sure your religious beliefs are correct before you go out and try to push them on others.

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200678)
If they were fundamental Latter Day Saints, then yes that would have been a real conversation.

Follow the link, son. It's to a list of Joseph Smith's wives.

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 12:54 AM

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And again, the mainstream Mormon does not have secret rites and rituals. Again that is the fundamental Latter Day Saints you speak of. And I do read the actual bible sir. One of my favorite scriptures actually come from the bible not the Book of Mormon. Math 25:40 and the king shall answer and say unto them, verily I say unto you. Inasmuch as ye hath done it, unto one of the least of these my brethren ye have done it unto me.
and you know what sir, your right. I am not as knowledgeable of my religion as I should be. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna sit back and just give up. I've tried walking away from this. But every time I did, it seems I only come back to speak of my faith and answer your arguements the best I can. And everyday I read the bible, not just the Book of Mormon and try to educate myself on what I need to know in order to be a successful missionary. Out of all the people here, Mr. Pendergast sir, you have actually been the least insulting. I actually thank you for that. You strike me as the kind of guy that would actually sit down and read their sources and make sure they are spreading accurate information. Even if it's about something you dislike. And like I said sister etheldreda, though Joseph smith founded the Mormon church, he would not be welcome in our church if he was still alive.

handmaiden 12-31-2016 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200678)
If they were fundamental Latter Day Saints, then yes that would have been a real conversation. But you don't seem to understand that fundemantal Latter Day Saints are different from Mormons or normal Latter Day Saints. Fun fact, while Joseph smith did indeed create the religion or at least the basis that I worship, he would not be welcomed in our church for his acts of polygamy. It's the same thing I was talking about bronies. You guys think all bronies are sexual and love dressing up as ponies, and they are gay and all that. But no, those are cloppers, the very thing that give bronies a bad name. If you met me in real life or saw me at a brony convention. You wouldn't believe I was a brony. Literally the only thing that would give me away would be a t shirt my friend got for me on Christmas. And a button that the same friend made for me. I think dressin up as a pony is weird and actually kind of stupid. So no that conversation did not happen if they were actual Mormons. And no I don't prance like a pony.

So, Joseph Smith wouldn't be welcomed in your church even though your church believes that God chose him to find and communicate the documents that founded your church?


Wait, would Matthew, Mark, Luke or John be welcome? They wore sandals in church and all the Mormons that I've ever seen were dressed in dark suits and dress shoes.


Inquiringly Yours,
Handmaiden

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 01:02 AM

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Of course Matthew Luke and John would be welcomed. In fact, just about anyone is welcomed in our church dressed however they want. As long as it is appropriate. Nothing skimpy, nothing that has crude messages on t shirts. The reason why we dress like that, is because we want to dress the best we can in the church. So really dress the best you can.

handmaiden 12-31-2016 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200685)
Of course Matthew Luke and John would be welcomed. In fact, just about anyone is welcomed in our church dressed however they want. As long as it is appropriate. Nothing skimpy, nothing that has crude messages on t shirts. The reason why we dress like that, is because we want to dress the best we can in the church. So really dress the best you can.

Interesting. You took my question at face value but you don't take the Bible at face value. . . Wait, Am I being punked?


Fascinatedly Yours,
Handmaiden

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 01:09 AM

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I do take the bible at face bible, no wait scratch that. It's above face value. The word of God is something extremely valuable. My favorite scripture comes from the bible not the Book of Mormon.

Didymus Much 12-31-2016 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200687)
I do take the bible at face bible, no wait scratch that. It's above face value. The word of God is something extremely valuable. My favorite scripture comes from the bible not the Book of Mormon.

This is sounding more and more like someone trying to figure out what their audience wants to hear, as opposed to a genuine declaration of religious belief, so let's drop that for now.


I'd really like to hear how you feel, in your own words, about your church changing the Book of Mormon (as detailed by Mrs. Etheldreda in this post) to reflect their more modern "understanding" of the eternal nature of God.

Pim Pendergast 12-31-2016 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200683)
I am not as knowledgeable of my religion as I should be.

No, you're not. But the Bible encourages you to examine your own beliefs and understand them.

2 Cor 13:5a Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

1 Thes 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

1 Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

1 Pet 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Mormonism just doesn't stand up to this level of scrutiny.

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And like I said sister etheldreda, though Joseph smith founded the Mormon church, he would not be welcome in our church if he was still alive.
So why does your church follow his teachings? I can tell you Jesus Christ is still alive, and He is more than welcome at Landover Baptist.

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200683)
And again, the mainstream Mormon does not have secret rites and rituals.

Don't take my word for it. Ask your parents. Ask your stake president or bishop. They'll call them "sacred" and they'll say, "we don't talk about sacred things outside the Temple." The only way you learn about them is by going through these secret rituals.



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Again that is the fundamental Latter Day Saints you speak of.

Son, we recognize the Church of LDS no longer preaches polygamy, but your insistence they never did is easily corrected by looking at history. Look at the history of your own church.

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and you know what sir, your right. I am not as knowledgeable of my religion as I should be. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna sit back and just give up.

Nor should you, dear. Look into the history of your church and let it speak for itself. Look at the claims your church makes. Hold them up against the facts we know to be true. Let the evidence lead you, but don't give up on the Truth, and don't give up on learning about the faith claims of your church.

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And like I said sister etheldreda, though Joseph smith founded the Mormon church, he would not be welcome in our church if he was still alive.

I missed where you said this earlier. I've never heard this idea. Can you point me to some information on this? I find that fascinating that a homo would be welcome in your church so long as he kept his filthy little diddley-winks to himself, but the founder would not. In your opinion, which Celestial Heaven do you think Smith is currently in?

Basilissa 12-31-2016 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200678)
If they were fundamental Latter Day Saints, then yes that would have been a real conversation. But you don't seem to understand that fundemantal Latter Day Saints are different from Mormons or normal Latter Day Saints. Fun fact, while Joseph smith did indeed create the religion or at least the basis that I worship, he would not be welcomed in our church for his acts of polygamy.

Wait, wait, what? I'm seriously confused now. :confused:

So the founder of your church would be not welcomed in your own church today?

If he was wrong on the polygamy thing, then how do you know that he wasn't wrong on the whole Book of Mormon thing?

Cranky Old Man 12-31-2016 03:09 AM

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You should watch video relations from for example BronyCon. There is nothing strange in it.

:blink:

Why do you try to seduce innocent Christian children into watching pedosexual porn online? Do you have no shame? :fear2:

Alvin Moss 12-31-2016 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200687)
I do take the bible at face bible, no wait scratch that. It's above face value. The word of God is something extremely valuable. My favorite scripture comes from the bible not the Book of Mormon.


We had a tribe of Mormons who came to Texas not too long ago; it was a few years back. They bought a big ranch over near San Angelo somewhere and called it "Yearning for Zion". Then they proceeded to fill it up with wives and every wife had a whole bunch of kids. It was like a small town out there in the middle of nowhere and everybody dressed funny.

Well, we are as friendly and tolerant in Texas as the good Christians are on this web site, but there are lines beyond which we have no tolerance. Mormons out in the desert with a bunch of wives dressed like they're extras in a Clint Eastwood western movie was just too much to ask. So, the Sheriff went in there with armored personal carriers and armed deputies and arrested them all. We confiscated their children for a while and rustled all their livestock. The jeffe, Warren Jeffs, got away, but we got him after a while and locked him up in the prison we keep for people like that. He languishes there even now.

Here where I live, in San Antonio, the Mormons have had the temerity to build a big temple with a statue of their golden god on top of it and it is built in a pretty expensive area of town. In fact, it is right down the street from Reverend John Hagee's vision of what the Second Temple must have looked like. I have often wondered what pagan rituals they act out in there. In fact, I'm pretty suspicious of what Pastor Hagee might be up to, too, but that is for another day.

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 05:38 AM

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It's because of Joseph smith practice as polygamy that would not allow him to be a member of our church. And Alvin, you do know that is a bit extreme, they were only trying to start a branch. And as for the golden statue. We don't build statues of false idols, that is the angel mormoni, not God. And we don't practice pagan rituals. We are Christian like you, not pagan. And welcome anyone in our church, so long as they are respectful, reverent and don't dress provocatively or inappropriate. But they cannot become members of our church.


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