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uncool dude 05-26-2016 07:03 PM

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say
 
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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 1182369)
How could it possibly confuse you? Is not God's Word like silver has been refined seven times? (Psalms:12:6: The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.)

I don't really know much about you and I can't be bothered reading thing written in "text-speak", so if you are beset by demons of unintelligence, please reply with an "X".

Anyway, this thread is entitled "Things that the Bible doesn't say" not "Things that the Bible does say"

I apologise. I was only seeking assistance, so that someone many help me understand Psalm 82:1

Didymus Much 05-26-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by uncool dude (Post 1182368)
Can u help me understand Psalm 82:1It has really confused me.

It's covered here. Search function is your friend.

Diesel Stanford 04-05-2018 09:55 PM

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say
 
What the Bible doesn't say either?

Well, the statement that dispensationalism was unbiblical and cult of Darby, Scofield or Ruckman. But the truth is, Ephesians 3:2 says the opposite:
If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-way


Adam and Eve clearly were in a different dispensation as us. They could do what they want except eat from one tree - which doesn't apply to us.:pirate:

Didymus Much 04-05-2018 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Stanford (Post 1230823)
What the Bible doesn't say either?...

:huh: Just because Paul uses a vaguely similar word in a completely different context does not mean anyone endorses that.

The True Christians™ put a lot of time (seriously, a lot of time; check the thread dates, lazy ***es slacked off for like eight years mid-stream) and effort (ok, not so much proof there) into assembling the Bible in a Year forum covering the entirety of the KJV through a True Christian™ lens. It's an invaluable resource. And the Ephesians 3 section of that forum has... nothing ...on dispensationalism.

That being said, there is support for it elsewhere in the Bible, so it is accepted by most denominations (I don't recall seeing it being discussed here either way). Let's see if you can find it, and an appropriate thread the discuss the matter (because it's a really meaningless issue unless you already accept almost all of the rest of mainstream Christian theology, and has historically only been used to provide "heretics" to prosecute for political purposes). :thumbsup:

Ezekiel Bathfire 04-05-2018 10:28 PM

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel Stanford (Post 1230823)
What the Bible doesn't say either?
Well, the statement that dispensationalism was unbiblical and cult of Darby, Scofield or Ruckman. But the truth is, Ephesians 3:2 says the opposite:
If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-way


Very good - How, in your opinion, does this manifest itself as an aberration in everyday life?

Diesel Stanford 04-05-2018 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 1230831)
Very good - How, in your opinion, does this manifest itself as an aberration in everyday life?[/SIZE][/FONT]

A lot, because this dispensational will end with the rapture. It has nothing to do with my opinion, but with the truth.

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (John 14:3)

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1st Thessalonians 4:14-16)


And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. (Daniel 12:1-2)

MitzaLizalor 04-11-2018 11:24 PM

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say
 
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Originally Posted by Didymus Much (Post 1182371)
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Originally Posted by uncool dude (Post 1182368)
Can u help me understand Psalm 82:1It has really confused me.

It's covered here. Search function is your friend.

For once your reply had an interesting link. I will post it here:
Psalm 82:1-2 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
I've included verse 2 for context, just in case anyone was thinking of inserting some false doctrine they made up for themselves.


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Originally Posted by Brother V (Post 268565)
Psalm 82

1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

This is odd, if we look back to the verses from yesterday, which I don't believe I highlighted the one in particular, we'll see something interesting.
Psalm 77: 13 Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?


..and linking to the Psalm 77 post:
:link:





Psalm 77:11-15 I will remember the works of the LORD: surely I will remember thy wonders of old. I will meditate also of all thy work, and talk of thy doings. Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God? Thou art the God that doest wonders: thou hast declared thy strength among the people. Thou hast with thine arm redeemed thy people, the sons of Jacob and Joseph. Selah.

The Bible is very clear about false gods. They were (and still are) cooked up by a criminal caste masquerading as seers or prophets or even more cynically manipulating people who, although not really seers or prophets, thought they were. They did this to get a privileged status and murdered anyone who objected. False religions use the same methods today. It's all they got, buster! would be a fair critique.

There are exceptions where laws have been passed to get rid of such odious frauds but make no mistake: if they ever get a toe-hold again they'll revert to form within a century. Whatever soporific burlesque they enact in the meantime.

“God,” they say, “Is so fantastic and will provide a permanent bordello we accept cash (only).. as they refer to a hideous ivory goblin or gilded idol of the moon or whatever image they've conditioned their followers to adore. It is presented as God but is no such thing in reality. Gods of that type are not great. This is made plain in Psalm 77.

These deceptions deserve to be judged. The thing held up as God, by liars, is in fact a useless thing. A god, a human invention. The way they use it, the values they attribute to it elevate the word..as they use it..to a proper noun. With a capital letter. This is what God compares, the image they perceive, the value they attribute to it, can never compete with reality.

In Psalm 82 however, God is not inviting comparisons with reality. God is judging. And the things He judges, the wicked things He judges, the falsehoods and lies and deceptions and idols He judges are in reality mere gods. Useless objects, useless ideas. The world view described in Psalm 77 is judged in Psalm 82 and as always God's Perfect Judgement is consistent. Otherwise it would not be perfect.

keseos 04-12-2018 01:50 PM

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Galatians 3:28, this is neither jew nor greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ jesus.


it isn't transphobic either

Dr Laurence Niles 04-12-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by keseos (Post 1231278)
Galatians 3:28, this is neither jew nor greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ jesus.

I’m confused. This is about what the Bible(KJV1611) do NOT say.

:wacko:

YIC

keseos 04-12-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Laurence Niles (Post 1231279)
I’m confused. This is about what the Bible(KJV1611) do NOT say.

:wacko:

YIC

Yeah it doesn't say transgenders are sinners

Elmer G. White 04-12-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by keseos (Post 1231282)
Yeah it doesn't say transgenders are sinners

You are correct. The Bible contains another verse that says transgenders are sinners.

Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.



Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

Dr Laurence Niles 04-12-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by keseos (Post 1231282)
Yeah it doesn't say transgenders are sinners

It doesn’t say toasters burn hands either but common sense tells me it would be a stupid thing to do.

Common sense tells me that Jesus really REALLY hates the gaywise (as per Lev 20:13).

Your not going to tell me that being transgender is not worse from Jesus’ perspective on a scale of normal to sex change, are you?

YIC

keseos 04-12-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmer G. White (Post 1231284)
You are correct. The Bible contains another verse that says transgenders are sinners.

Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.



Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

yes you are right on that point and that point being about their clothes which they wear.
Yet now there are clothes for unisex as in not to be biased on gendered clothes that can be worn and I assure you that when one wishes to change gender they may not want to change their clothing . Now I do understand that some may do but not all.

keseos 04-12-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Laurence Niles (Post 1231286)
It doesn’t say toasters burn hands either but common sense tells me it would be a stupid thing to do.

Common sense tells me that Jesus really REALLY hates the gaywise (as per Lev 20:13).

Your not going to tell me that being transgender is not worse from Jesus’ perspective on a scale of normal to sex change, are you?

YIC

But do thoses words you speak come from the mouth of jesus himself or a follower/a ordinary person.

Elmer G. White 04-12-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by keseos (Post 1231287)
yes you are right on that point and that point being about their clothes which they wear.
Yet now there are clothes for unisex as in not to be biased on gendered clothes that can be worn and I assure you that when one wishes to change gender they may not want to change their clothing . Now I do understand that some may do but not all.

We are obviously aware that gender reassignment involves surgery. That is also condemned by God - in a plethora of Biblical verses.

Leviticus 21:5
They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.


1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


So, in addition to gender confusion by the use of le garde-robe, God also prohibits all cuttings of the flesh. This includes the removal of genitalia or the more massive mammaries of the females.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

keseos 04-12-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmer G. White (Post 1231289)
We are obviously aware that gender reassignment involves surgery. That is also condemned by God - in a plethora of Biblical verses.

Leviticus 21:5
They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.


1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


So, in addition to gender confusion by the use of le garde-robe, God also prohibits all cuttings of the flesh. This includes the removal of genitalia or the more massive mammaries of the females.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

I'm sorry to burst any bubble but it does not require surgery as most cannot afford it and such just style themselves while others don't wish to have their organs removed and replaced as it is a risky surgery but as there is not many ways to get the right organs

Elmer G. White 04-12-2018 05:02 PM

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say
 
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Originally Posted by keseos (Post 1231290)
I'm sorry to burst any bubble but it does not require surgery as most cannot afford it and such just style themselves while others don't wish to have their organs removed and replaced as it is a risky surgery but as there is not many ways to get the right organs

Thank you for this alternative fact. Basically, for you there is a form of transgenderism that involves people who do not wish to replace their reproductive organs nor cross-dress. That is the same kind of transgenderism as not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Your curious position is, however, covered in the Epistle to Titus.

Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

Didymus Much 04-12-2018 05:42 PM

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say
 
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Originally Posted by keseos (Post 1231278)
Galatians 3:28, this is neither jew nor greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ jesus.


it isn't transphobic either

:facepalm: Yes, it is. If you're trans, you aren't "in Christ Jesus" (as the Scripture posted by Elmer shows) and have no claim to being treated equally.


Please, read the whole Bible before arguing that you know what it means. :thumbsup:

keseos 04-13-2018 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Didymus Much (Post 1231293)
:facepalm: Yes, it is. If you're trans, you aren't "in Christ Jesus" (as the Scripture posted by Elmer shows) and have no claim to being treated equally.


Please, read the whole Bible before arguing that you know what it means. :thumbsup:

I have read what he had wrote and that only goes against wearing the other genders clothes not being a different gender. so before you type try to actually understand what it means rather then letting your hateful view blind you.

Dr Laurence Niles 04-13-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by keseos (Post 1231288)
But do thoses words you speak come from the mouth of jesus himself or a follower/a ordinary person.

From Jesus.

2nd Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
Deuteronomy 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."
Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Psalm 12:6-7 "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever

I really don’t see the issue. Jesus very clearly wants the gaywise dead and even though I myself don’t really want to anyone personally to have to die Jesus does seem pretty insistent.

No True Christian™ would ever break the law but when Godly Mr Trump makes Christianity the state religion and Biblical Law is the law of the land I hope that homers are given a bit of time to leave America before Jesus’ dictates towards the punishment for homersex, along with other grievous crimes as picking up sticks on a Sunday or disrespectorising one’s parents matches the Biblical commands.

YIC


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