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Prayer Warrior 12-16-2013 09:44 AM

Godly judge forgives killer because parents are affluent
 
Recently, there was a boy who was driving drunk and accidentally killed four unimportant poor people (probably lazy bums) in a car accident. Liberals were trying to destroy this kid's life and have put in jail forever for one mistake. One judge put this liberal persecution to a halt and ruled that the child should not receive any jail time and instead be on probation for 10 years because this poor child was suffering from "Affluenza". That he lived such an extravagant, materialistic, consequence-free life that he was unable to understand or control his behavior.

However, rather than trying to sort through complicated stuff like evidence that she had no business in, this Godly female judge simply listened to the brilliant and highly experienced Dr. G. Dick Miller, along with their parents, who no doubt had many gifts for this wonderful judge after hearing about her fair and balanced ruling.

This judge is also supporting Jesus, in the sense that she is ensuring that the boy only make amends to Jesus rather than the families themselves, and in the sense that even killers can be absolved of any consequences provided they obey Jesus and ask for forgiveness (and why would he be in a wealthy family if he wasn't being blessed by Jesus?)

However, don't for a second think that this judge is soft on crime. She sentenced a sinful 14 year old felon of a different affluence level to jail for more than a decade for punching another child to death! Can you believe there are kids who'd do that? No morals in today's generation of kids.

Liberals are pulling every dirty trick in the book to attack and discredit this admirable doctor http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/health/affluenza-youth/.

Affluenza is Junk Science

This poor child probably went through one of the most horrible and neglectful forms of child abuse possible: Not being beaten. It is indeed the children who are not beaten who are victims in need of help, not jail time.

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Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist (Post 945688)
The lack of moral compass that results form not having the fear of God beaten into you; the knowledge that your father hated you. How does a man bear it? .

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Originally Posted by Levi Jones (Post 945694)
I feel so bad for children whose parents don't love them. Those poor souls. Won't someone think of the children? .


We should lobby congress to ensure that all courts recognize Affluenza as a legitimate mental condition. I'm sure there are lots of Godly, wealthy Christians who are under liberal persecution and even imprisoned right now because their judge was not informed about Affluenza. The solution to this mental condition where a wealthy person is so rich and pampered that they don't fully understand the consequences of their actions, is of course, to have them avoid the consequences of their actions.

James Hutchins 12-16-2013 02:32 PM

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I know the family. They are good people. The boy attended one of my seminars on how to run a businesss employoing people from the Pacific Rim.
Accidents happen. I dropped a brandy snifter a few months back. It was not a fine Crystal one of Pastor Zekes, it was an everyday one of Brother Cressers. Not a big deal, I just ambled over to the cabinet, got a new one and refilled it as Brother Cressers daughter cleaned up the broken glass.
I know the boy is a Christian. I know he is distraught as his parents called me and told me so, looking for advice. I also know the people that died were not Christians and therefore in Hell. So I fail to see the problem. Like the cheap snifter, it was no loos for it to end up in the trash.
The boy has a bright future as a Christian Republican Senator. As fellow decent people, we have an obligaton to put the past behind him and look ahead.

Attila's Wife 12-16-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Prayer Warrior (Post 1048607)
One judge put this liberal persecution to a halt and ruled that the child should not receive any jail time and instead be on probation for 10 years because this poor child was suffering from "Affluenza".

I thought the judge (and what's happened to Texas - since when did they allow women judges?) was pretty harsh. It wasn't just 10 years of probation, it was incarceration in a mental facility:

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Judge Jean Boyd ordered Couch to a long-term, in-patient facility for therapy, no contact with his parents, and 10-years probation.
And no contact with his parents! What's he supposed to do when he needs money? How will he buy a new car? I bet the other one was totalled.

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His attorneys have stated that his parents have offered to pay for him to do his in-patient therapy at a center in Southern California that costs $450,000 a year.
That's money that's coming out of his inheritance when the parents die. Disgusting. If the state is going to sentence people to expensive care, they shouldn't have to pay for it just because they can afford to.

Is there a fund we can contribute to?

YiC
AW

Prayer Warrior 12-16-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Attila's Wife (Post 1048648)
I thought the judge (and what's happened to Texas - since when did they allow women judges?) was pretty harsh. It wasn't just 10 years of probation, it was incarceration in a mental facility:



And no contact with his parents! What's he supposed to do when he needs money? How will he buy a new car? I bet the other one was totalled.



That's money that's coming out of his inheritance when the parents die. Disgusting. If the state is going to sentence people to expensive care, they shouldn't have to pay for it just because they can afford to.

Is there a fund we can contribute to?

YiC
AW

I understand your concerns. This punishment and just the idea of a woman being in power is indeed troubling. The punishment was still way harsher than I would have liked. However, this judge has already undergone a tremendous amount of liberal persecution just for handing down a ruling that blood craving liberals think isn't harsh enough. There's an online petition trying to get rid of her Judge Becomes Target of Criticism in "Affluenza" Case. In an ideal world, she could let him off the hook, however in the real world you have to at least pretend that there is some sort of punishment involved in order to ensure that the verdict sticks and isn't overturned, and to ensure that she can continue to stay a judge. Most judges would have bowed down to liberal thuggery and sent this boy to jail for years and years, and even standing up to the liberals as much as she did takes a tremendous amount of courage.

And also in an ideal world.. There'd be no women in power.. However, liberals have messed that up too. They've instituted their "quotas" and will sue businesses into oblivion if they don't hire on women. Which is why we need to flood positions of power with token women who will simply listen to men so other feminists don't somehow get in power. It's like having men in power, just through proxy.

Cranky Old Man 12-16-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prayer Warrior (Post 1048607)
Recently, there was a boy who was driving drunk and accidentally killed four unimportant poor people (probably lazy bums) in a car accident.

Why do people walk anyway? If God wanted us to walk, He wouldn't have created the car! No doubt this was a sign of God to warn those refusing to use His four wheeled creation that death is their is to be their punishment! They will be breathing the stench of burning rubber in Hell for all eternity.

"And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up ..." (Revelation 14:11)

Godfly 12-17-2013 09:26 PM

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I have suffered from affluenza my entire life, but unlike gays and cripples I never felt the need to flaunt my disability. It's wonderful to finally see my disease recognized by the legal system and I don't have to suffer in silence anymore.

I should say how grateful I am to the law in Freehold who were always willing to look the other way when my affluenza was acting up, and for a very reasonable price.:thumbsup:

Alvin Moss 12-18-2013 03:14 AM

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This is why we have judges and we don't go by some kind of one size fits all policy. It is up to the judge to decide the best punishment. If he is a righteous judge (I admit this is somewhat problematic), God will guide him in his decisions. If this youth had been wicked and had posessed sinful intent, the sentence would have probably been harsher, IMO.

No good could come from locking this young man up. After all, the unfortunate deceased are already gone. I am sure the young man will do better next time.

Jedediah 12-18-2013 06:38 AM

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I saw some pictures of the young man in question, and he looked pretty sad to me. He's suffered enough already. He and his family need some time to heal.

Predictably, the greedy poors who got in his way are trying to milk their perceived cash cow:

http://kfor.com/2013/12/16/victims-f...ffluenza-teen/

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Eric Boyles is suing Couch for more than $1 million in damages after his wife and daughter were killed when they were hit by Couch’s vehicle.
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Also, two other people who were injured in the crash have filed lawsuits against Couch.
Lucas McConnell, who was riding with Jennings, was injured in the wreck.
His parents are seeking unspecified damages.
Sergio Molina was riding in the bed of Couch’s truck when he was thrown from the vehicle during the crash.
He suffered a severe brain injury and is no longer able to move or talk.
The Molina family is seeking damages of $20 million.
Typical. These people haven't created any jobs! But because their family members decide it's a good idea to go out and play in traffic while young Mr. Couch tries to go to the store, they think they're entitled to his family's wealth? Disgusting. The sense of entitlement is unbecoming.

Hey scumbags, HOW ABOUT PULLING ON YOUR BOOTSTRAPS BEFORE TRYING TO CLAIM JOB CREATORS OWE YOU SOMETHING THEY CLEARLY DO NOT!?

Stupid poors. They have no comprehension of what it is to suffer from affluenza.

Attila's Wife 12-18-2013 07:56 AM

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Eric Boyles is suing Couch for more than $1 million in damages after his wife and daughter were killed when they were hit by Couch’s vehicle.
WHAT!!!! It was a worthless daughter, not a son. And as for the wife, any decent True Christian man would have no trouble finding another, better one - or at least one who doesn't hang out in the traffic. :thumbdown:

YiC
AW

Prayer Warrior 12-18-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedediah (Post 1049068)
I saw some pictures of the young man in question, and he looked pretty sad to me. He's suffered enough already. He and his family need some time to heal.

Predictably, the greedy poors who got in his way are trying to milk their perceived cash cow:

http://kfor.com/2013/12/16/victims-f...ffluenza-teen/

Typical. These people haven't created any jobs! But because their family members decide it's a good idea to go out and play in traffic while young Mr. Couch tries to go to the store, they think they're entitled to his family's wealth? Disgusting. The sense of entitlement is unbecoming.

Hey scumbags, HOW ABOUT PULLING ON YOUR BOOTSTRAPS BEFORE TRYING TO CLAIM JOB CREATORS OWE YOU SOMETHING THEY CLEARLY DO NOT!?

Stupid poors. They have no comprehension of what it is to suffer from affluenza.

Dirty scumbags.. now it all makes sense. Doesn't it seem odd that a nice young man would just happen to hit a group of four people at the same time? It is obvious that these people INTENTIONALLY wandered out into the road just so their family could file a lawsuit on their behalf. The husband probably tried selling his daughter on the open market, and couldn't get more than a few hundred dollars for her. As for the wife, he probably paid the father a few hundred dollars for her.. but now he wants a new wife and is stuck with the old one.

He just killed two women with one stone. Which is excellent efficiency as it probably takes most people several stones to kill one woman. By asking a monetary value in exchange for his so called "loved ones" he's admitting that they're property, and thus, he should get a fair market price for them. In fact, he'd be lucky to even get that considering the circumstances.

Under the circumstances, I think we can all agree it'd be perfectly reasonable for Mr. Couch to counter sue based on all the emotional trauma, defamation of character, and lost time he has no doubt experienced from this troubling ordeal, and to someone who is undergoing the crippling effects of Affluenza no less. That is like getting a baseball bat and hitting someone in the leg when they already broken leg.

Jedediah 12-18-2013 02:42 PM

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That's exactly why I slow down, put both hands on the wheel, and drive extra cautiously whenever I see colored people near the side of the road. They train their children to jump out in front of white people's cars so that they can file a frivolous lawsuit against us. It's just another forum of reverse racism the lamestream media never reports on.

It looks like even white poors have picked up on this tactic as well now. Pathetic. Why don't they just get jobs?

Prayer Warrior 12-18-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jedediah (Post 1049116)
That's exactly why I slow down, put both hands on the wheel, and drive extra cautiously whenever I see colored people near the side of the road. They train their children to jump out in front of white people's cars so that they can file a frivolous lawsuit against us. It's just another forum of reverse racism the lamestream media never reports on.

It looks like even white poors have picked up on this tactic as well now. Pathetic. Why don't they just get jobs?

They have two options. They can work for decades and earn their living, or they can put themselves in harm's way and sponge off the tax payer and the government forever. This is what happens when you have welfare and multimillion dollar lawsuits. These million dollar lawsuits in exchange for the well being or lives or poor people who couldn't make that much money in ten lifetimes have to stop. Guess who is leading the charge on frivolous lawsuits :thumbdown:.


Godfly 12-19-2013 02:23 AM

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There should be a law that nobody can sue anyone for more than they make in a month. Those people who died, there loved wons aren't going to be sad for more than a month. Hell I got over my wife dying in two hours, just as soon as I found out who was making dinner.

WWJDnow 12-19-2013 04:26 AM

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Rich people suffer all sorts of indignities and discrimination in America--affluenza, progressive taxation, lazy domestic help (especially Mexicans and Negros), the ever-increasing cost of maintaining a mansion, etc., etc., etc. This case is just one more example--nobody in the mainstream media seems to have any sympathy for this poor boy, who is just as much a victim as the 47%ers who died.

I don't think I would have had the strength to make it through life as a wealthy person. That's why I'm glad I'm in the middle class.

Free Market Fred 12-20-2013 03:21 AM

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Thank you, Brother PW, for raising this important topic!

It's a sad commentary on our society that we devote so much sympathy and spend so much money treating people for self-inflicted "illnesses" like starvation, homo-AIDS, and "unwanted" pregnancy. It's ridiculous - people wouldn't starve if they ate, they wouldn't get AIDS if they weren't homo, and they wouldn't get pregnant if the abortion-loving sluts kept their legs crossed.

Yet, while these so-called medical conditions get so much press, the liberal media fails to recognize the far more serious threat posed by affluenza.

Not everyone realizes that this is a disease, and indeed many have never heard of it. That's probably because only a tiny percentage of our population (just 0.1%) are afflicted. But the illness is real - I should know, as my family has been struck by this tragic condition.

Despite being job creators, people suffering from affluenza are often vilified and treated as outcasts. The liberal media continually wages class-warfare against us. Airlines herd us into a special section called "first-class," but then fail to cater for our special needs. Thus, most of us are forced to fly in private Learjets. People want to ask us for money and maybe even hurt us, thus we are forced to travel in bullet-proof stretchy limos and hire body guards.

But some affluenza sufferers - like the young man in question who accidentally killed four people - try (in vain) to mix with the trailer trash in the hopes of being treated like an equal. And look where it gets them - criminal charges!

As a caring, sharing company, Uranus Corporation has taken up this charitable cause and is sponsoring legislation to decriminalize affluenza. We think that anyone with a net worth over $100 million and accused of a crime should - rather than being prosecuted - be able to settle with the families of the deceased for monetary compensation. The amount of compensation should be equal to the net worth of the so-called "victims."

In this current case, we did a financial analysis on the deceased trailer trash to establish the correct amount of compensation. We looked at all their assets: savings, stocks, life insurance policies, cars, homes, etc. The total assets for the four individuals came to an impressive $870,432.45.

From this figure, we then subtracted their liabilities: credit card debt, student loans, medical bills, mortgages (plus interest and late-fees because they haven't paid anything since they died). We concluded that the four dead deadbeats owe $3,881,945.67. Thus, their net worth is minus $3,011,513.22.

Thus, we believe that the families of the deceased trailer trash should pay $3,011,513.22 in compensation to the wealthy kid who ran over those insolvent vermin. After all, those who are deceased have escaped their debts (even if they're burning in Hell), and this is most unfair to the poor exploited banks who are thus forced to go begging to the government for bailouts.

Meanwhile, think of all the emotional stress (not to mention damage to his Ferrari) that the rich kid suffered. He loved that car, but thanks to those trailer trash getting in his way, it's totally ruined. He even got blood on his handwoven silk shirt and diamond watchband! Of course, the hateful liberal leftist don't want to talk about that!

Godfly 12-21-2013 04:08 PM

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I am starting an affluenza support group. Please donate to help the afflicted. We are not looking for a cure because we think affluenza is a strength not a disability. It's no we who have to change, society needs to adapt to meet our needs. All who are afflicted are welcome. The cost is $1000 at the door.

I'm trying to get Donald Trump as are fist guest speaker!

Prayer Warrior 12-22-2013 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Godfly (Post 1049788)
I am starting an affluenza support group. Please donate to help the afflicted. We are not looking for a cure because we think affluenza is a strength not a disability. It's no we who have to change, society needs to adapt to meet our needs. All who are afflicted are welcome. The cost is $1000 at the door.

I'm trying to get Donald Trump as are fist guest speaker!

What an excellent idea. I'm concerned about another incident (along the lines of the 47% video that happened to Mitt Romney) though where some unsaved trash sneaks in a cell phone or camcorder and illegally films the event and tries to upload it out of context online to discredit Mr. Trump. You're doing a thorough investigation of the waiting staff and clean up crew, right? I work at the TSA keeping our country safe from criminals, and we ordered extra full body scanners with all the extra flights that come in with the holidays. Once the holidays wind down we could probably loan you some full body scanners for the event to make sure criminals and pirate film reporters don't sneak in. I'm sure the tax payers won't mind seeing as how its for such a noble cause.

Prayer Warrior 11-27-2015 06:34 PM

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I just wanted to follow up on this story, it appears that Ethan's father Fred Couch, also suffers from affluenza. Impersonating a police officer? You can tell this man really, really wanted to help out our community by providing valuble police services at no cost to our community. At great risk to himself, be became a volunteer policeman if you will. That's admirable. I think we have another George Zimmerman in the making here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-officer.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...76_634x451.jpg
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After officers had completed their disturbance investigation they turned their attention to Couch, who insisted he was a Lakeside Police Department reserve officer, reports WFAA.

'Couch reached into his vehicle and took out his wallet displaying what appeared to be a police badge and identification card, suggesting he was a police officer,' North Richland Hills investigator K. Bauman said.

'Upon completion of the call, all subjects involved were allowed to leave the location.'
But the officers kept looking into Couch’s claim, and after doing some digging, determined that he has never been licensed as a Texas peace officer.
Couch was arrested and charged with False Identification As A Police Officer: Misrepresentation Of Property. He was later released after posting bond set at $2,500.00.

Millionaire sheet metal manufacturer Fred and ex-wife Tonya have more than 20 criminal and traffic offense claims on their records - but have never served any time in prison.

They have several driving citations on their records and Mr Couch has been arrested for alleged crimes including theft, evading arrest and an alleged assault against Mrs Couch, according to official court documents obtained at the Johnson County Court records office in Cleburne.

But aside from a number of small fines for their motoring offenses and a six-month community supervision order issued to Mrs Couch, neither of them have been punished further.
Well praise Jesus for that. No wonder he keeps getting off, considering how many times he's gotten off in the past, how can he reasonably be expected to be punished the next time he commits a crime? He doesn't have a logical link between action and consequence. The only fair thing to do in a situation like this is to continue letting him off the hook. He also has the knowledge and integrity to keep his wife in place. No wonder he's so wealthy. What a terrific father figure. Now I'm even more confident that the courts made the correct ruling. I'm glad we have a justice system that recognizes nuanced complex cases like this and doesn't just apply a blanket one size fits all inflexible ruling.

Prayer Warrior 12-29-2015 09:01 AM

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I have some bad news. This unfortunate young man was recently detained. :( He was probably off on Mexico doing humanitarian efforts to make amends for his actions, and in his haste to do good works, forgot to check in with his probation officer. Now he's facing up to 10 years in prison. Can you imagine? A boy of his social standing in an actual prison? :o


I'm hoping his lawyer is able to pullthrough again somehow. Maybe they can get him off using the affluenza defense again. I'm certain that given how his life has been so far it is unreasonable for him to make a connection between actions and punishments. I mean, he literally killed four people and didn't get any prison time for it. This young man up until this point had no connection between action and consequence, so how could he have been reasonably expected to have to actually follow probation like normal people do?

I mean sure they have to put those terms about having a probation officer and such in there to make the public feel better so they don't whine and complain even more about him "getting off", but they aren't actually going to give him jail time for violating probation when they didn't give him jail time for killing four people are they? It makes no sense. :wacko:

I'm sure if this boy was a handicapped thug the leftists media would be all over sympathizing with him and letting him out, but instead because he's among the job creator class he gets attacked and demeaned. Our court systems are just so unfair towards rich people.

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(CNN)Mexican authorities have detained so-called "affluenza" teen Ethan Couch and his mother near the popular Mexican Pacific beach resort town of Puerto Vallarta, officials briefed on the matter told CNN.

Couch, 18, went missing earlier this month, two years after he made national news when he was sentenced to probation for a drunken driving crash that killed four people.

Couch is expected to be turned over to the U.S. Marshals Service, who have spent weeks searching for him. A spokesman for the service declined to comment.

He is wanted by authorities in Tarrant County, Texas, for allegedly violating probation. His mother was listed by Texas authorities as a missing person after her son's disappearance, and the authorities said they believed she was assisting her son.

A warrant had been issued for the teen to be taken into custody after his probation officer couldn't reach him earlier this month. His apparent disappearance came after a video allegedly showed him at a party where alcohol was being consumed, authorities said.

Word of the search for Couch has reignited controversy over the case, which drew widespread attention after a psychologist testified that Couch, who was 16 at the time, suffered from "affluenza," describing him as a rich kid whose parents didn't set limits for him.

Closer look at 'affluenza' teen's parents

Closer look at 'affluenza' teen's parents 02:49
Prosecutors had requested that Couch be sentenced to 20 years behind bars. The judge's decision to give him probation instead of jail time was controversial at the time, and more so after the recent video appeared to show the teen playing a drinking game at a party.

District Attorney Sharen Wilson has said it "certainly looks like him" in the video, but added that without further investigation, the video alone did not prove he violated his probation.

But leaving the county and not meeting his probation officer are violations, she said.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/28/us/mex...ned/index.html

A Follower 12-29-2015 04:31 PM

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Am I reading this correctly? The exact same liberals who complained about a "criminal" being let loose on American streets are now complaining that that very same "killer" of four is not on American streets and want him back? This just goes to show that deep in their heart they know the boy did nothing wrong.
John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God [...]


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