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Mary Etheldreda 05-06-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by this_one (Post 1086578)
Thank you very much, it's all clear now!

Now, could you please point me to the quote from the Bible which says that laws come from Satan and that statistics are made by deceptive liberals? Because as you said elsewhere, the only truth comes from the Bible. If you (or someone else) are unable to find such a quote in the Bible, you are a) lying or b) inferring that there exists a truth that doesn't come from the Bible.

I'm confused. Mr. Ashton explains to you that your papers are written by hypocrites who say one thing in one place and something different in another, and from this you conclude there must be a passage in the Holy Bible that says all laws in existence come from Satan? That's quite a logical leap there, dear. Perhaps you ought to slow down and simply read the Bible for starters. Then you'll know what's really in it. You don't have to take anyone's word that way, the LORD speaks for Himself.

:)

MitzaLizalor 05-06-2014 03:44 PM

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Satan
etymology .. context .. LXX .. cf Greek lexicon. DEVIL .SATAN. with other occurrences

Satan is God's adversary. Satan opposes God. Which obviously means that he opposes God's Just Law.

"How does that work, then?" a genuine enquirer might ask.

"Well, it's like if (say) I oppose you," I might reply "then I will act to thwart your intentions at every opportunity."

Therefore, it would be unnecessary to spell out, should the genuine enquirer request that her husband go to the shop and buy some gin then I (as the thwarter of the genuine enquirer's wishes) could be expected to waylay the husband and get him to something else (for example accompany me to a nightclub). As an alternative, if he were not amenable to my suggestion, I could walk with him to the shop but encourage him to buy liquorice instead of gin. And if that didn't work I could go mental and smash all the gin bottles in the shop or even shoot him. Anything to oppose the genuine enquirer's wishes. That is what an adversary does.


Satan's adversarial track record is extremely well documented. At every opportunity, from the historical account relating to Eve all the way to the future history recorded in Revelation, his uttmost desire is to oppose God.

Normally it would be unnecessary to spell out that that includes opposing God's Just Law. But in this case I will do so and highlight that when God's Perfect Love is opposed or contradicted in any way by some other law then the author of that other law is very easy to identify. There is only one candidate. Satan.

Secular laws criminalising God's very explicit commandments are necessarily satanic. That is what satanic means. I have included etymology and context in two early languages with a detailed example in English but from now on I would suggest any enquirers obsessing over this comparatively minor point—what a word means—should consult a dictionary.

this_one 05-06-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda (Post 1086608)
I'm confused. Mr. Ashton explains to you that your papers are written by hypocrites who say one thing in one place and something different in another, and from this you conclude there must be a passage in the Holy Bible that says all laws in existence come from Satan? That's quite a logical leap there, dear. Perhaps you ought to slow down and simply read the Bible for starters. Then you'll know what's really in it. You don't have to take anyone's word that way, the LORD speaks for Himself.

The whole time, I was talking about this quote from one of your brothers:
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Originally Posted by JewPincher (Post 1086554)
The problem with that is YOUR "statistics" are influenced by the deceptive liberals. So you don't get a true statistic. The only RIGHT law is what God commands of us. Maybe you should remember the fact that many laws come about due to the influence of Satan in the world.

I just asked for a proof of this from the Bible. If Mr. JewPincher isn't able to support his words by a quote from the Bible, he is violating this rule of your forum:
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Scripture or it didn't happen!
(the quote is taken directly from here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=13090)

MitzaLizalor 05-06-2014 04:15 PM

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You know, I'm beginning to think you might be a secularist.

this_one 05-06-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor (Post 1086621)
You know, I'm beginning to think you might be a secularist.

I'm just not a fanatic, that's all. But I guess that compared to your level of craziness (as you declare in your title), everyone looks secular :)

Mary Etheldreda 05-06-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by this_one (Post 1086614)
The whole time, I was talking about this quote from one of your brothers:

I just asked for a proof of this from the Bible. If Mr. JewPincher isn't able to support his words by a quote from the Bible, he is violating this rule of your forum:
(the quote is taken directly from here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=13090)

I see. And so because JewPincher hasn't been back to the forum since he made that post, he must be cowering somewhere because he's been caught in a fib? It couldn't be that perhaps he's earning a living like a decent man, not content to join the ever growing ranks of liberal food stamp queens lurching off the hard work of decent folk with an honorable work ethic? It can't be that he hasn't seen your question and hasn't had the opportunity yet to refer you to Paul's letter to the Romans, chapter 13 in which this very concept is laid out in detail by inspiration of the Holy Ghost, can it?

I find you to be rather disagreeable here. I will pray the Lord Jesus Christ will woo you with such a tender Love that you won't be able to resist His sweet, sweet Redemption. I will pray that you open your heart eagerly for the Lord Jesus Christ Almighty Himself, that the LORD will take hold of your heart so you freely accept becoming a vessel overflowing with the fruits of His Perfect Love (Galatians 5:22). I will pray that you cannot wait to start your day on your knees, in humble adoration of what the Sweet Redeemer will have done for you, that you will pledge yourself every day to obey Him eagerly, without reservation, without condition (John 14:15). I pray you one day know intimately the disgusting, sinful state of your rebellious soul, the vomitous feeling you currently give the LORD (Revelation 3:16). Only in this knowledge of how much He hates you right now can you be truly aware of how much He loves you to have offered His Own Perfect Blameless Blood on the Cross of Calgary just so the likes of you could be spared an eternity of unspeakable pain, suffering, trauma and unending horrors (Revelation 20:15). Because I have to say dear, you seem awfully bitter and uncouth as you are now. There is no Spirit of Love or Gentleness in you. No offense.

:)

Zechariah Smyth 05-06-2014 05:09 PM

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children
 
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Originally Posted by this_one (Post 1086624)
I'm just not a fanatic, that's all. But I guess that compared to your level of craziness (as you declare in your title), everyone looks secular :)

Sweet Baby Jesus, I love these "rebuttals" (sic) the Jesus-haters use.

- if a housewife is using a cookbook and the recipe calls for precisely 3 eggs, is it fanatical to use 3 eggs?

- if a mechanic is using a shop manual to change a camshaft, is it fanatical to torque the cylinder head to the correct foot-pounds when he's done?

:wacko:

At the end of the day, the Bible is an instruction manual. Do you think God messed up when he dictated it?

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

this_one 05-06-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth (Post 1086639)
Sweet Baby Jesus, I love these "rebuttals" (sic) the Jesus-haters use.

Oh baby, it's not Jesus I hate. It's fanatics like you.
Have fun with your crusade :)

Didymus Much 05-06-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth (Post 1086639)
...At the end of the day, the Bible is an instruction manual...

I think it's clearer to consider it a contract (which is a synonym of covenant).

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cov·e·nant [kuhv-uh-nuhnt] Show IPA
noun
1. an agreement, usually formal, between two or more persons to do or not do something specified.
...
5. Bible.
a. the conditional promises made to humanity by God, as revealed in Scripture.
b. the agreement between God and the ancient Israelites, in which God promised to protect them if they kept His law and were faithful to Him...

It's no surprise then that people hold no compunction over violations of that contract (ie. sin), as they've never bothered to read the fine print. Heck, the usage agreements here at Landover are barely a couple of pages long and no one reads them :(.

JewPincher 05-06-2014 08:16 PM

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children
 
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Originally Posted by this_one (Post 1086614)
The whole time, I was talking about this quote from one of your brothers:

I just asked for a proof of this from the Bible. If Mr. JewPincher isn't able to support his words by a quote from the Bible, he is violating this rule of your forum:
(the quote is taken directly from here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=13090)

Young lady, you will be respectful when addressing any of the True Christians on this page, especially the men! It seems that you have been ignoring other comments because they have been presenting you with valid information. As others have said, there are flaws in the articles you presented. They contradict themselves and cannot make any conclusions. Here I have shown, through mathematics, that Satan's "theoretical mathematics" is flawed and incorrect. Statistics falls into this category. http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=98371

Mrs. Etheldreda has kindly offered you to read Romans 13 (in the KJV 1611). This is exactly what I would have suggested. I recommend that you read that, think about it, then read the ENTIRE Holy Bible.

Cranky Old Man 05-06-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by this_one (Post 1086645)
Have fun with your crusade

Crusades are a Catholic invention. Catholics are not Christians. All Catholics will burn in Hell!

Spindra 05-07-2014 10:44 AM

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I don't want to offend anyone but are you people insane?

Cranky Old Man 05-07-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spindra (Post 1086843)
I don't want to offend anyone

I am glad to hear that.

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are you people insane?
You failed.

Spindra 05-07-2014 08:58 PM

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Tell me one reason why would torturing your children in such a horrible way be a good thing?

And show me where in the Bible did they say anything about such severe torture?

And no God damned nitpicking!

Mary Etheldreda 05-07-2014 09:18 PM

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children
 
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Originally Posted by Spindra (Post 1086911)
Tell me one reason why would torturing your children in such a horrible way be a good thing?

And show me where in the Bible did they say anything about such severe torture?

And no God damned nitpicking!

You can find solid reason and Biblical support HERE.

A Follower 05-07-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spindra (Post 1086911)
Tell me one reason why would torturing your children in such a horrible way be a good thing?

And show me where in the Bible did they say anything about such severe torture?

And no God damned nitpicking!

The Bible requires more than we are allowed to do, due to Obama's anti-Christian laws against child abuse, but we do what we can to please God in raising our children. And we're not alone, 'How To Train Up Your Child' is the most popular book on parenting in America and it promotes the exact techniques we use.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
So, both God and popular opinion agree that you are out of line and abnormal. Please don't have children, as you obviously can't care for them.

TheOtakuAthiest 05-14-2014 10:34 PM

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I am well aware that this post will likely be taken down because I happen to have "athiest" in my name. But, people, you are setting a bad reputation for your religion.
Anyone who approves of or even agrees with this post is simply the pure definition of evil. To think that this actually happens is appalling to me. If God does exist (God left lowercase purposely, thanks), and is as loving and all-knowing as the bible says he is, then Cranky Old Man and anyone who agrees with him will burn in hell forever. This post might give me a reason to become a Christian just to believe there is a hell so I know you sadists will be given ample punishment.

John Creeser 05-14-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOtakuAthiest (Post 1088835)
people, you are setting a bad reputation for your religion.

Who cares? This isn't a popularity contest. We preach the Bible literally, as Jesus commands that we do;

II Timothy 4:2-5
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

And we do not interpret like so many false Christians do;

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

We raise our children the True Christian™ way. Not by some silly liberal secular doctrine that turns them into....well, hateful people like you:angry:

With that said, we welcome your persecution;

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Cranky Old Man 05-14-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOtakuAthiest (Post 1088835)
I am well aware that this post will likely be taken down because I happen to have "athiest" in my name.

We always keep posts by idiots like you to teach Christians what happens if you hate baby Jesus.

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If God does exist (God left lowercase purposely, thanks), and is as loving and all-knowing
All-knowing? Certainly. (Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)

Loving? Not even close.
  • God hates sinners. (Proverbs 6:16-19, Hosea 9:15, Matthew 13:41-42, Deuteronomy 12:31)
  • Jesus is not all about peace. (Matthew 10:34-37, Luke 14:26)
  • Once America gets Biblical laws, all disobedient children and all unbelievers should be killed. (2nd Chronicles 15:13, Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
Anyone who claims God is loving is a liar who never read the Bible.

TheOtakuAthiest 05-14-2014 11:43 PM

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Oh, yes. Teach Christians that they should love and pray to a god who seems at this point to be a severe version of a playground bully.


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