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Cranky Old Man 11-20-2013 11:35 AM

The Christian guide to TORTURING your children
 
The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

The liberals are LYING about torture!
Anti-American liberals have created the false notion that torture is wrong! They ignore the fact that Bush's torture program has kept America terrorist free since 2001! They ignore the fact that Jesus Himself showed us that being tortured to death is a good and honorable thing to do. That we can go to Heaven is the direct result of Jesus being tortured to death! And they ignore the fact that torture is the only way we can keep our children out of Hell! Lying liberals, why am I not surprised.

Torture is the ONLY way to keep your child from going to Hell!
The Holy Bible is crystal clear on this subject: "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell" (Proverbs 23:13-14). False Christians will try to twist the Bible by saying you should ignore parts of the Bible or not take them literally. Those false Christians are lying! James 2:10 teaches us we have to obey the entire Bible. Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:18-19 teach us we are not allowed to alter the Bible in any way. So there is no way around this, torture is the only way we can keep our children out of Hell!

There is a lot of misinformation on the issue of torturing children for Christ. Hellbound liberals like Michael and Debi Pearl introduce nonsensical concepts in their parenting disaster of a book called "To Train Up a Child" that do not belong in a Godly Christian household. Michael Pearl even allows his wife to yap on the internet about how children should be happy and have fun. Every Christian knows a happy child is a Hell bound child! So please burn these nonsensical books, use an internet filter that blocks sites like nogreaterjoy.org and use the only book that matters: The Holy Bible!

Michael and Debi Pearl will stop laughing once they burn in Hell:
http://i.imgur.com/QEbfNTF.png

Torture method #1: Beatings.
The is no substitute for a decent Godly beating. The Bible mentions it explicitly over and over again for a reason (Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 23:13-14, Proverbs 29:15). Unfortunately, over the years, left wing liberals have been making it harder and harder to save your child's soul. They introduced nonsensical concepts like political correctness and child abuse. Completely ignoring the fact that the real child abuse would be to not beat the child. Guided by Satan these America hating communists try to prevent Christian parents from following Biblical rules resulting in eternal damnation for these poor innocent children. Although liberals often pretend to be retarded idiots, I am sure a few of them are going to demonstrate that with their responses to this article, even freedom hating liberals are fully aware that a decent Christian beating is a friendly cuddling compared to the horrors of burning in Hell for trillions and trillions of years. It's an inconvenient truth Obama voters gladly pretend doesn't exist. It's pure evil!

The best instrument to beat up your child in this day and age is a 15-inch plastic tube, preferable in a cheerful color. This hurts a lot but leaves fewer marks which could alert the authorities. It's unfortunately that avoiding the authorities should even be an issue, but when Satan put Obama in office we all knew things like this would happen. The cheerful color will make sure the child knows you are torturing it out of love, Christian love.

It's extremely important to keep beating the child until the child is without breath to complain. As long as the child protests, screams or cries in response to a beating, the beating is not yet completed. A beating should only end when the child is completely silent. Only that way will you teach your child to be silent and totally obedient as required by Ephesians 6:1.

For swatting babies a 12-inch willowy branch, thinner plastic tubing or a wooden spoon can be used. Obviously there are limitations to what you can teach a baby, a fact liberal terrorists always seem to ignore, but you should start with blanket training as soon as the child learns to crawl. For those ignorant on matters of child education, blanket training teaches the child to never leave the blanket you put it on. This saves money on liberal nonsense like a playpen and teaches the child to never disobey you as early as possible.

When the child becomes too large for the plastic tube, you can start using rulers, paddles, belts and larger tree branches. At this point the child will have learned to avoid the authorities to prevent the fires of Hell. Make sure to permanently damage their behinds so they always remember they are a disappointment to God whenever they sit down for a moment. Children shouldn't sit down anyway, as it only makes them lazy.

It's best to use tools to not hurt your hand:
http://i.imgur.com/lhXtvFy.jpg

Torture method #2: Humiliation.
Torture should target the body and the soul. After all, it's the soul we are trying to save. This might seem illogical, but it is important to not start humiliating the child too soon. E.g. it must first become aware that nakedness is shameful, before you start using nakedness to torture it. If you start sooner it will be less effective because the child gets used to it and it's soul will be hurt less by the torture. The best way to achieve this is to always have many people present when the child undresses itself to nakedness and gets a well deserved beating. It's best to always have your wife, all your other children, their spouses and your grandchildren watch while you beat up your child to maximize the effect.

Torture method #3: Starvation.
Food is a luxury that should be earned. Food should never be a given. Only if a child has been obedient and done it's chores, should it receive a minimal amount of food. As soon as you figure out which foods the child dislikes, that should the only food you give the child. You don't want to turn your child into a fried chicken eating sinner that steal elections and destroy America!

Torture method #4: Cold.
Cold water baths, putting children outside in cold weather and hosing off children who have potty training accidents are effective ways to get through to the disobedient child. Heat would be even more effective, but the Obama controlled authorities will prevent you from giving your children a preview of Hell, no matter how effective that would be. It's a shame we now live in a nation where Christians are prosecuted for doing their Godly duty.

This child will think twice before sinning again:
http://i.imgur.com/ij1Yeep.jpg

Torture method #5: Fear.
Fear is the most effective of all torture methods. The child should always be afraid it is going to suffer some well deserved beating. One of the things you should do is to wear the plastic tube you use to beat up the child around your neck as a constant reminder that they can be beaten up in an instant. It's also very effective to hang up a spare beating tube near their window so it is the last thing they see when they fall asleep and the first thing they see when they wake up. Fear is the most effective when it is constant.

It's important to also beat up the child at random moments, for example when they are asleep, and not only when it does something wrong. The random beatings are a reminder that we are all worthless sinners and that nothing we do is ever good enough for God (Romans 3:10). If the child asks for the reason of the beating, just explain that it has disappointed God. That way the child learns to live in fear of God for it's entire life as only constant fear of God can lead to salvation. My father beat the fear of God into my sinful body when I was a child and I am grateful to my father and to God for assuring my eternal stay in Heaven that way. This, and liberals always twist this into something horrible, is what parenting should be all about. Making sure your child fears God and will spend each and every second of his life to pleasing God, full well knowing nothing he does will ever be good enough for God. Only at God's mercy and forgiveness for our sins, will we ever go to Heaven. There is no other way.

Even if a child is completely spoiled by it's parents, it takes only three days to achieve the required level of fear. It takes two days of severe torture to break a child's anger. After that the child becomes too scared to get angry. On the third day the child will draw into a quiet shell and start obeying your every command. Three days is all it takes to save the child from eternal damnation by getting it to fear their father and most importantly, to fear God! The child will be grateful for all eternity when you are both in Heaven. A good thing to keep in mind if the child's well deserved suffering somehow bothers you.

You're never too young to fear God:
http://i.imgur.com/FKyNtk1.jpg

Torture method #6: Death.
There is no maximum age for torturing your children. You have to keep torturing your children until the day you die. My own father actually died while he was giving my brother, who also died, an extremely severe beating for masturbating. No doubt both of them are now in Heaven. You should, of course, never torture your child to death on purpose as the Bible clearly forbids this. But sometimes Jesus blesses the child by sending it to Heaven during a well deserved Godly beating. This is a beautiful thing that is unfortunately completely misrepresented by the Obama liberal media. They call Godly parents like Larry and Carri Williams "guilty of homicidal abuse of a child and first-degree assault" instead of praising them for doing their Godly duty. Lying liberals, why am I not surprised.

Mission accomplished, the child is in Heaven:
http://i.imgur.com/5V5NoQp.png

Larry and Carri Williams, innocent victims of the liberal media:
http://i.imgur.com/7wJjwXv.png

Jack Rankan 11-20-2013 12:13 PM

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Wonderfull guide, Cranky.

By the way, there is a wonderfull instrument to educate the teens invented by a True Christian™ and a American Sanford Baker called "tramp chair". Yes, I agree, the name needs more work, but, the device works wonders. And the best part, you can even build it in your own back yard or, because of those hippy liberals, can be build it on a wheeled platform to be moved around. Put your teen in that metal cage somewhere in the woods for a few days and there you go, a lesson and no marks what so ever for those darn liberals to notice.

lukasekman 11-20-2013 12:35 PM

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Great guide!
Cold is an underestimated tool in parenting, and I have good experience with cold showers, cold baths and putting children outside in cold weather in troubled situations.
Nakedness is also very handy when dealing with kids in their lower teens who got ADHD or Oppositional Defiant Disorder as a result of liberal parenting. Why drugging kids with Ritalin when the mere threat of nakedness in front of the class makes the kid behave. Nakedness is all natural - no side effects.
Nakedness might not work as good on boys as it does on girls, but forcing boys to wear girl's clothes in public have great results too.

Jack Rankan 11-20-2013 12:49 PM

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Nakedness might not work as good on boys as it does on girls, but forcing boys to wear girl's clothes in public have great results too.

That one should not be overused on boys though, you do not wan't to produce a crossdresser.

Cranky Old Man 11-20-2013 12:57 PM

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That one should not be overused on boys though, you do not wan't to produce a crossdresser.

Agreed. As soon as the child seems to like it, you know you should never do it again.

lukasekman 11-20-2013 02:08 PM

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Agreed. As soon as the child seems to like it, you know you should never do it again.

True, the parent or teacher needs to pay close attention and swiftly switch strategy if the humiliation shows inappropriate result. Voluntary cross-dressing in guys is also a symptom of lead deficiency.

Redeemed Papist 11-20-2013 05:38 PM

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Thank you for this guidance, Brother.

I only wish I had had this clear pathway to Biblical chastisement laid out to me earlier. My children were so much harder to beat into submission when I saw the light and stopped being a limp wristed Catholic.

Had I begun beating them properly when they were ten months old instead of ten years old they would have knuckled under much sooner, I'm sure. As it is, I've not heard from Jack for a good few months since he moved to Germany to witness to the Turkish immigrants. I'm sure he and his good friend Tarquin are fine. They are such close companions they have each other's backs - in fact this became a standing joke with them. "Don't worry, Dad, Tarquin always covers my back and I cover his." And then they laughed and laughed... I never really understood why that was so funny.

Anyway, I'm all for starting young with them so they don't learn to talk back to you and wear out your whacking arm. :thumbsup:

Bjorn Jensen 11-20-2013 08:12 PM

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Waterboarding has always been my preferred form of parenting :thumbsup:

winstonthewhiner 11-20-2013 10:55 PM

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The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

The liberals are LYING about torture!
Anti-American liberal feminazi Obamacare worshipping Disney communists have created the false notion that torture is wrong! They ignore the fact that Bush's torture program has kept America terrorist free since 2001!

Wrong! Please inform yourself before you post something that is incorrect.

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2001 September 18 - November: 2001 anthrax attacks. Letters tainted with anthrax kill five across the U.S., with politicians and media officials as the apparent targets. On July 31, 2008 Bruce E. Ivins a top biodefense researcher committed suicide.[39] On August 6, 2008, the FBI concluded that Ivins was solely responsible for the attacks, and suggested that Ivins wanted to bolster support for a vaccine he helped create and that he targeted two lawmakers because they were Catholics who held pro-choice views.[40] However, subsequent evaluations have found that the FBI's investigation failed to provide any direct evidence linking Ivins to the mailings.[41]
2002 July 4: 2002 Los Angeles Airport shooting Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, a 41-year-old Egyptian national, kills two Israelis and wounds four others at the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport.[42] The FBI concluded this was terrorism, though they did not find evidence linking Hadayet to a terrorist group.[43]
October 2002 Beltway sniper attacks: During three weeks in October 2002, John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo killed 10 people and critically injured 3 others in Washington D.C., Baltimore, and Virginia. The pair were also suspected of earlier shootings in Maryland, Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, and Washington state.[44] No motivation was given at the trial, but evidence presented showed an affinity to the cause of the Islamic jihad.
2003 Ohio highway sniper attacks A series of over 24 sniper attacks concentrated along the Cap-City Beltway I-270 in the Columbus Metropolitan Area causing widespread fear across Ohio and leaving one dead.
2006 March 5: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar injured 6 when he drove an SUV into a group of pedestrians at UNC-Chapel Hill to "avenge the deaths or murders of Muslims around the world".[45]
2006 July 28: Seattle Jewish Federation shooting, Naveed Afzal Haq, an American citizen of Pakistani descent, kills one woman and shoots five others at the Jewish Federation building in Seattle. During the shooting, Haq told a 911 dispatcher that he was angry with American foreign policy in the Middle East.[46]
2007 October 26: A pair of improvised explosive devices were thrown at the Mexican Consulate in New York City. The fake grenades were filled with black powder, and detonated by fuses, causing very minor damage. Police were investigating the connection between this and a similar attack against the British Consulate in New York in 2005.[47]
2008 February: In the first reported incident of animal-rights extremists physically assaulting the family members of animal researchers, six masked activists attempted to force their way into the home of a University of California, Santa Cruz, researcher and injured the researcher's husband.[48][49]
2008 March 3: Four multimillion-dollar show homes place in Woodinville, Washington, are torched. The Earth Liberation Front is suspected.[50]
2008 March 6: A homemade bomb damaged a Recruiting Office in Times Square.[51] In June 2013 The FBI and New York City police offered a $65,000 reward for information in the case and revealed that ammunition used for the bomb is the same as is used in the Iraq and Afghanistan war zones.[52]
2008 May 4: Multiple pipe bombs exploded at 1:40 am at the Edward J. Schwartz United States Courthouse in San Diego causing "considerable damage" to the entrance and lobby and sending shrapnel two blocks away, but causing no injuries. The F.B.I. is investigating links between this attack and an April 25 explosion at the FedEx building also in San Diego.[53]
2008 August 2, August 3 University of California-Santa Cruz molecular biologist David Feldheim's home was firebombed. A car belonging to another researcher from that university was destroyed by a firebomb in what is presumed to be related. FBI is investigating incidents as domestic terrorism related to animal rights groups.[54][55]
2009 April 8: According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, intruders left malware in power grids, water, and sewage systems that could be activated at a later date. While the attacks which have occurred over a period of time seem to have originated in China and Russia, it is unknown if they are state-sponsored[56] or errors in the computer code.[57][58]
2009 May 31: Assassination of George Tiller: Scott Roeder shoots and kills Dr. George Tiller in a Wichita, Kansas church. Roeder, an anti-abortion extremist who believes in justifiable homicide of abortion providers, was arrested soon afterward. Roeder was convicted of the crime and sentenced to 50 years in prison in 2010. Tiller, who performed late-term abortions, had long been a target of anti-abortion extremists; his clinic was firebombed in 1986 and Tiller was shot and wounded five times in 1993 in a shooting attack by Shelley Shannon.[59][60]
2009 May 25: 17-year old Kyle Shaw sets off a crude explosive device at a Starbucks at East 92nd Street on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, shattering windows and destroyed a bench at the coffee shop. There were no injuries. The attack was a "bizarre tribute" of the movie Fight Club, in an attempt to emulate "Project Mayhem", a series of assaults on corporate America portrayed in the film. Shaw took a plea agreement and was sentenced to 3.5 years in prison in November 2010.[61][62]
2009 June 1: Arkansas recruiting office shooting: Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad shot and killed one military recruiter and seriously wounded another at a Little Rock, Arkansas Army/Navy Career Center in an act of Islamic terrorism. Muhammad, a convert to Islam, had visited Yemen for 16 months where he spent time in prison and became radicalized. Muhammad, said he was part of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and was upset over U.S. killing of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.[63]
2009 November 5: Fort Hood Shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan, a US Army Major serving as a Psychiatrist, opens fire at Fort Hood, Texas, killing 13 and wounding 29. On August 23, 2013 Hasan was convicted by a Military tribunal. Hasan acted as his own attorney and took responsibility for the attack saying his motive was jahid to fight “illegal and immoral aggression against Muslims”.[64] On August 28 Hasan was sentenced to death.[65]
2010 March 4: 2010 Pentagon shooting occurred on March 4, 2010, when John Patrick Bedell shot and wounded two Pentagon police officers at a security checkpoint in the Pentagon station of the Washington Metro mass-transit system in Arlington County, Virginia.
2010 September 1: Discovery Communications headquarters hostage crisis: James J. Lee, armed with two starter pistols and an explosive device, takes three people hostage in the lobby of the Discovery Communications headquarters in Silver Spring, Maryland before being killed by police. After nearly four hours, Lee was shot dead by police and all the hostages were freed without injury. Lee had earlier posted a manifesto railing against population growth and immigration.[66][67]
2012 August 5 Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting: 6 killed, 3 injured including a police officer who was tending to victims at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Wade Michael Page age 40 killed himself after being shot by police.[68] The shooting is being treated by authorities as an act of domestic terrorism.[69][70] While a motive has not been clearly defined Page had been active in white supremacist groups.[68]
2013 April 15: Boston Marathon bombings: Two bombs detonated within seconds of each other near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, killing 3 and injuring more than 180 people.[71][72] Late in the evening of April 18 in Cambridge, Massachusetts an MIT campus police officer was shot and killed while sitting in his squad car. Two suspects then carjacked an SUV and fled to nearby Watertown, Massachusetts, a suburb of Boston. A massive police chase ensued, resulting in a shootout during which several IED's were thrown by the suspects. A Boston transit police officer was critically wounded and suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a Russian immigrant of Chechen ethnicity, was killed. The second suspect, Tsarnaev's younger brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, escaped. A "Shelter in place" order was given for Boston, Watertown, and the surrounding areas while house-to-house searches were conducted, but the suspect remained at large. Shortly after the search was called off Tsarnaev was discovered by a local resident hiding inside a boat parked in the resident's driveway less than three blocks from the scene of the shootout. He was taken into custody after another exchange of gunfire and taken to nearby Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, where he was treated for injuries received during his pursuit and capture. Tsarnaev was arraigned on federal terrorism charges from his hospital bed on April 22, 2013.[73][74][75][76] Preliminary questioning indicated the Tsarnaev brothers had no ties to terrorist organizations.[77] A note written by Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on the boat where he was captured said the bombings were retaliation for US actions in Iraq and Afghanistan against Muslims.[78]
2013 April 16: April 2013 ricin letters: Two letters, sent to Mississippi Republican Senator Roger Wicker and president Barack HUSSEIN Obama, were tested positive for ricin. Each letter contained the message "I am KC and I approve this message". On April 27, 2013, a man named Everett Dutschke was arrested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrori...2.80.93present


They ignore the fact that Jesus Himself showed us that being tortured to death is a good and honorable thing to do. That we can go to Heaven is the direct result of Jesus being tortured to death! And they ignore the fact that torture is the only way we can keep our children out of Hell! Lying liberals, why am I not surprised.

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Torture is the ONLY way to keep your child from going to Hell!
Since there is no proof of hell, neither is there proof of that. I guess one of your children is going to kill you sooner or later.

Hosea 8, 7: For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.


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There is a lot of misinformation on the issue of torturing children for Christ. Hellbound liberals like Michael and Debi Pearl introduce nonsensical concepts in their parenting disaster of a book called "To Train Up a Child" that do not belong in a Godly Christian household. Michael Pearl even allows his wife to yap on the internet about how children should be happy and have fun. Every Christian knows a happy child is a Hell bound child!
And where in the bible does it say a happy child is hell bound? You confirmed that it obliges you to slap your child, but where exactly is that confirmed? Back up your statements with the holy bible, if you are a true christian!

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Although liberals often pretend to be retarded idiots,
Do you know any of them in person? You should probably invite one over for lunch and have a conversation with him/her, and if you avoid all the biblical stuff, you might be surprised.

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freedom hating liberals
Contradiction in terms!

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are fully aware that a decent Christian beating is a friendly cuddling
No, a christian beating (or any such thing) is not cuddling (probably you are a masochist and a little confused because of that), a true beating is a true beating is a true beating. Stay honest, at least. Remember? Thou shalt not lie.

The best instrument to beat up your child in this day and age is a 15-inch plastic tube, preferable in a cheerful color. This hurts a lot but leaves fewer marks which could alert the authorities. It's unfortunately that avoiding the authorities should even be an issue,

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but when Satan put Obama in office we all knew things like this would happen.
The USA is a democracy. Not Satan put him there, the voters did. The people. YOU! well, not you in person, statistics idicate that most likely you didn't vote. (Wonder, how I know? Easy: turnout was at 57.5 %. Each of the candidates got roughly half of the votes, Obama a little more, Romney a little less. So roughly 30% voted for Obama, 30 % for Romney and 40% didn't vote.)

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It's extremely important to keep beating the child until the child is without breath to complain. As long as the child protests, screams or cries in response to a beating, the beating is not yet completed. A beating should only end when the child is completely silent.
If it is silent, most likely it is dead. Congratulations. You beat your offspring so hard you killed him/her.


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Torture method #2: Humiliation.
Torture should target the body and the soul. After all, it's the soul we are trying to save. This might seem illogical, but it is important to not start humiliating the child too soon. E.g. it must first become aware that nakedness is shameful, before you start using nakedness to torture it. If you start sooner it will be less effective because the child gets used to it and it's soul will be hurt less by the torture. The best way to achieve this is to always have many people present when the child undresses itself to nakedness and gets a well deserved beating. It's best to always have your wife, all your other children, their spouses and your grandchildren watch while you beat up your child to maximize the effect.
Wow, you are a really bad person. And you like naked children? I don't mean to insinuate enything, but it amazes me how urgently you want to keep them nude. Hope you are not a child molester.

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Torture method #3: Starvation.
Food is a luxury that should be earned.
Depends. Everyday food is very cheap compared to, say a new car. I like statistics, so here are some facts that might interest you: developped countries can feed their population on their own and how many people work in agriculture there? 3-5%. Yes, that is the population that is needed to keep everybody well fed. If all spent 95 % of the day doing nothing and the rest, roughly 1 h and 12 minutes working, we'd still have enough to eat.

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Food should never be a given. Only if a child has been obedient and done it's chores, should it receive a minimal amount of food. As soon as you figure out which foods the child dislikes, that should the only food you give the child. You don't want to turn your child into a fried chicken eating sinners that steal elections and destroy America!
They may not steal elections, but they will steal your food. AS I said above:

Who sows wind....

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Torture method #4: Cold.
Cold water baths, putting children outside in cold weather and hosing off children who have potty training accidents are effective ways to get through to the disobedient child. Heat would be even more effective, but the Obama controlled authorities will prevent you from giving your children a preview of Hell, no matter how effective that would be. It's a shame we now live in a nation where Christians are prosecuted for doing their Godly duty.
That's what your parents did to you? I mean, that's cruel, but no excuse for taking it out on a child that can't fight back, coward.

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It's important to also beat up the child at random moments, for example when they are asleep, and not only when it does something wrong. The random beatings are a reminder that we are all worthless sinners and that nothing we do is ever good enough for God (Romans 3:10).
It certainly is a good reminder that beating is a good way to get around. One day you will be weak from your age and then your children will be strong and they will do to you what you once did to them.

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The child will be grateful for all eternity when you are both in Heaven.
Heaven can't be where yourchild meets you again for eternity.

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Torture method #6: Death.
There is no maximum age for torturing your children. You have to keep torturing your children until the day you die. My own father actually died while he was giving my brother, who also died, an extremely severe beating for masturbating. No doubt both of them are now in Heaven.
Yes there is. Not for you, of course, but there is.
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You should, of course, never torture your child to death on purpose as the Bible clearly forbids this. But sometimes Jesus blesses the child by sending it to Heaven during a well deserved Godly beating.
You go on beating your child till it doesn't move and doesn't breathe. THen what. Oh god, I didn't know this could kill him/her? When I saw him/her growing physically weaker and life flowing out of my child? If you torture your child so hard it dies, it IS on purpose. PERIOD!


I am not the person to wish hell on somebody, for one because I don't believe in it, and even if I did, I would never wish eternal pain on anybody. Probably I could make an exception for you, but you already constructed your own personal hell here on earth. I pity you for what a poor, soulless, tormented being you are.

Cranky Old Man 11-21-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by winstonsomething (Post 1042891)
Wrong! Please inform yourself before you post something that is incorrect.

If you think I made a mistake, just claiming I am wrong is not very useful. Can you explain why you think I am wrong, or is that beyond your limited capabilities?

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No, a christian beating (or any such thing) is not cuddling (probably you are a masochist and a little confused because of that), a true beating is a true beating is a true beating. Stay honest, at least. Remember? Thou shalt not lie.
It helps if you read an entire sentence before you respond instead of only reading the first half. What I said was "a decent Christian beating is a friendly cuddling compared to the horrors of burning in Hell". See how much difference looking at the entire sentence makes?

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And you like naked children?
Where did you get that idiotic idea? Please stop making up things and limit yourself to the actual facts of the matter.

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Depends. Everyday food is very cheap compared to, say a new car. I like statistics, so here are some facts that might interest you: developped countries can feed their population on their own and how many people work in agriculture there? 3-5%. Yes, that is the population that is needed to keep everybody well fed. If all spent 95 % of the day doing nothing and the rest, roughly 1 h and 12 minutes working, we'd still have enough to eat.
I don't understand the relevance of this at all. Are you autistic?

winstonthewhiner 11-21-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man (Post 1043128)
If you think I made a mistake, just claiming I am wrong is not very useful. Can you explain why you think I am wrong, or is that beyond your limited capabilities?

I can, but since even reading my post is beyond your limited capabilities, I doubt you would understand. However, if you are actually able to read, you will see that I listed quite a comprehensive list of terroristic attacks that happened sinc September 2001. So your statement that since that time the USA was kept free of terroristic attacks due to Bush's politics is uninformed, since there were actually terroristic attacks.

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It helps if you read an entire sentence before you respond instead of only reading the first half. What I said was "a decent Christian beating is a friendly cuddling compared to the horrors of burning in Hell". See how much difference looking at the entire sentence makes?
Sure, you try to relativize beating your children by using the image of friendly cuddling, which in fact is a lie. So you are apart from being a coward, you are actually a liar, too.
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Where did you get that idiotic idea? Please stop making up things and limit yourself to the actual facts of the matter.
You write an entire paragraph how you want to punish your children by stripping them naked in the cold. You use a false pretext to justify watching nude children, because even though you won't admit it, you enjoy this sight. Here is some scripture to back it up:

Mt, 7, 15: Be on the watch for false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inside they are cruel wolves.

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Depends. Everyday food is very cheap compared to, say a new car. I like statistics, so here are some facts that might interest you: developped countries can feed their population on their own and how many people work in agriculture there? 3-5%. Yes, that is the population that is needed to keep everybody well fed. If all spent 95 % of the day doing nothing and the rest, roughly 1 h and 12 minutes working, we'd still have enough to eat.
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Food is a luxury
Well, well, well, uneducated old man. You should study some book besides the bible so that you know what you are actually talking about. Like here

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Luxury goods are products and services that are not considered essential and are associated with affluence.
So food is not essential? And associated with affluence? When today obesity is a bigger problem than hunger in developped countries like the USA?

You have a lot to learn, before you can make any qualified statement. And stop piffling your children. It is one of the most severe crimes we know and against the bible!

Cranky Old Man 11-21-2013 10:59 PM

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if you are actually able to read

Your remarks would be funny, if they weren't so sad.

You didn't read my original post, you didn't read my reply to your post and you certainly didn't read the Bible. At most you browsed it a bit while masturbating over a photo of Justin Bieber.

It's time to get a bath and get a job girl. The free ride is over.

ManWhoFoundGod1922 11-22-2013 10:24 AM

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Thats how my parents raised me and how I'm raising my son.

winstonthewhiner 11-22-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man (Post 1043241)
Your remarks would be funny, if they weren't so sad.

You didn't read my original post, you didn't read my reply to your post and you certainly didn't read the Bible. At most you browsed it a bit while masturbating over a photo of Justin Bieber.

It's time to get a bath and get a job girl. The free ride is over.

You have no arguments, at least you don't post any. You don't seem to read the posts you reply to, which is not very clever. Please abstain from posting unless you have something to say that is actually on topic, so that other people who actually want to use this forum to exchange their thoughts can do so.

Didymus Much 11-22-2013 10:52 PM

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...so that other people who actually want to use this forum to exchange their thoughts can do so.

Just what do you think gives you the right to make demands here? :D

Cranky Old Man 11-22-2013 11:52 PM

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You have no arguments

I gave plenty of arguments, all based on Holy scripture.

That you are incapable of seeing what is right in front of you, doesn't mean it isn't there. Unfortunately there is no way to make you see that. You either figure it out or you don't.

Mary Etheldreda 11-23-2013 12:15 AM

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so that other people who actually want to use this forum to exchange their thoughts can do so.

You're confused, dear. We're not interested in anyone's thoughts outside the those of the Holy LORD of Lords!




winstonthewhiner 11-23-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Didymus Much (Post 1043369)
Just what do you think gives you the right to make demands here? :D

Sic! ;-) Anyway
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You're confused, dear. We're not interested in anyone's thoughts outside the those of the Holy LORD of Lords!
According to you, he made us all. So he made me. In this case, he had some intentions by making me the way I am (unless I am broken in which case he is not unfallible because he made a mistake when he made me) for a reason. Which means, all I am posting I am posting in his interest and these are actually his ideas I spread. This doesn't make any sense at all from my prespective, but from yours, it does.

Mark L. Snyde, PhD 11-23-2013 08:15 PM

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Sic! ;-) Anyway According to you, he made us all. So he made me. In this case, he had some intentions by making me the way I am (unless I am broken in which case he is not unfallible because he made a mistake when he made me) for a reason. Which means, all I am posting I am posting in his interest and these are actually his ideas I spread. This doesn't make any sense at all from my prespective, but from yours, it does.

God gave man free will. He wanted man to worship him willingly. What meaning would worship have if it was simply programmed into us? Think man, think. B)

Jack Rankan 11-23-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by winstonsomething (Post 1043489)
Anyway According to you, he made us all. So he made me. In this case, he had some intentions by making me the way I am (unless I am broken in which case he is not unfallible because he made a mistake when he made me) for a reason. Which means, all I am posting I am posting in his interest and these are actually his ideas I spread. This doesn't make any sense at all from my prespective, but from yours, it does.

Yes, he made you for one reason - to worship him on your own free will.

Deuteronomy 6:13 Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.

1 Samuel 7:3 And Samuel spake unto all the house of Israel, saying, If ye do return unto the Lord with all your hearts, then put away the strange gods and Ashtaroth from among you, and prepare your hearts unto the Lord, and serve him only: and he will deliver you out of the hand of the Philistines.

2 Chronicles 19:3 Nevertheless there are good things found in thee, in that thou hast taken away the groves out of the land, and hast prepared thine heart to seek God.

God gave you a choice, worship Him or perish. It's all in your own free will.

winstonthewhiner 11-23-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark L. Snyde, PhD (Post 1043490)
God gave man free will. He wanted man to worship him willingly. What meaning would worship have if it was simply programmed into us? Think man, think. B)

You raise an interesting point. What meaning would it have to have the love of god simply programmed into us? And what else is it that CrankyOldMan suggests? He wants to torture children into worshipping god (his words, not mine). If you do something because otherwise you get tortured, it is not on free will. So besides doing that exact thing, making children into robots rather than people with their own free will, he is also trying to alter the programming we came with when we are born. The means he employs imply that a great resistance has to be overcome to achieve that goal. He forcefully alters god's creation which is perfect since it was created by god. That is blasphemy.

Didymus Much 11-23-2013 10:32 PM

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...He forcefully alters god's creation which is perfect since it was created by god...

Errr, no.

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

Jack Rankan 11-23-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by winstonsomething (Post 1043503)
You raise an interesting point. What meaning would it have to have the love of god simply programmed into us? And what else is it that CrankyOldMan suggests? He wants to torture children into worshipping god (his words, not mine). If you do something because otherwise you get tortured, it is not on free will. So besides doing that exact thing, making children into robots rather than people with their own free will, he is also trying to alter the programming we came with when we are born. The means he employs imply that a great resistance has to be overcome to achieve that goal. He forcefully alters god's creation which is perfect since it was created by god. That is blasphemy.

Crankyoldman doesn't wan't us to torture our children, he only wants to help us save them from the fires of hell. And if the torture is the only way, so be it. Are you that blind and twistedly evil, man? Do you want to see our children burn in hell?

Miriam Nelson, Whore 11-23-2013 11:23 PM

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When will I know that I'm abusing my kids and not torturing them? Can torturing become abuse?

Jack Rankan 11-23-2013 11:37 PM

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When will I know that I'm abusing my kids and not torturing them? Can torturing become abuse?

If you stick to the Bible, word for word, and Crankyoldmans guide, you will not abuse your children, but you will educate them to be good decent Christians. And besides, the whole "abuse" thing, it's those LIEberals idea. There never was or is such a thing, but as Jesus has ordered us Romans 13:1-2 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Miriam Nelson, Whore 11-23-2013 11:50 PM

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And besides, the whole "abuse" thing, it's those LIEberals idea. There never was or is such a thing, but as Jesus has ordered us

Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe in real abuse as I have been abused. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

Pastor Ezekiel 11-24-2013 12:54 AM

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe in real abuse as I have been abused. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

You are wrong.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm:

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire. :sinner:

Cranky Old Man 11-24-2013 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by winstonsomething (Post 1043503)
The means he employs imply that a great resistance has to be overcome to achieve that goal. He forcefully alters god's creation which is perfect since it was created by god. That is blasphemy.

God demands we treat our children this way. Proverbs 23:13-14 explicitly teaches us children will go to Hell if we don't beat them. So it's undeniably God's will and not blasphemy!

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Can torturing become abuse?

Never. The term "child abuse" is a hoax created by liberal Obama voters to assist Satan in luring our innocent children to the fires of Hell.

PokermonFan1994 11-24-2013 04:59 AM

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I have no words for this one, you're sick and you're evil....

Pim Pendergast 11-24-2013 05:05 AM

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I have no words for this one, you're sick and you're evil....

Thank you for blessing us. Your insults only make us rejoice. It makes us think we are as important as the Old Testament prophets.

Mat 5:11-12 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

How about head over to the introduciton forum and tell us about yourself so that we can get to know you?

PokermonFan1994 11-24-2013 05:14 AM

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Thank you for blessing us. Your insults only make us rejoice. It makes us think we are as important as the Old Testament prophets.

Mat 5:11-12 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

How about head over to the introduciton forum and tell us about yourself so that we can get to know you?

Why do you like making children suffer and being misserable? I was a happy little girl in my childhood years and I'm a normal person, in fact, no healthy person in the world could have such terrible experiencies in their first years, they could become criminals in the future, what they need are good parents and a safe home, parents are supposed to protect, not to hurt

Pim Pendergast 11-24-2013 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PokemonFan1994 (Post 1043582)
Why do you like making children suffer and being misserable?

Well, I don't know if any of us likes it, but it's what God tells us to do. We trust His wisdom over the wisdom of modern-day "parenting experts." Being a Christian is all about denying our carnal nature, our empathy and compassion, which so easily gets in the way of our doing God's will.

Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

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I was a happy little girl in my childhood years and I'm a normal person,
Hmmm . . .

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in fact, no healthy person in the world could have such terrible experiencies in their first years, they could become criminals in the future, what they need are good parents and a safe home, parents are supposed to protect, not to hurt
If we torture them into following the law, they will always follow the law. They won't become criminals.

Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Thomas Taylor 11-24-2013 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PokemonFan1994 (Post 1043582)
Why do you like making children suffer and being misserable? I was a happy little girl in my childhood years and I'm a normal person, in fact, no healthy person in the world could have such terrible experiencies in their first years, they could become criminals in the future, what they need are good parents and a safe home, parents are supposed to protect, not to hurt

This is not hurting the child. It is parenting in the Biblical (KJV 1611) sense. By conditioning our children in this manner they are taught to respect thier elders and more importantly God. They are taught that through obediance to God they will find Salvation. I was brought up in this manner and I am not a criminal. What's your excuse.

PokermonFan1994 11-24-2013 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pim Pendergast (Post 1043587)
If we torture them into following the law, they will always follow the law. They won't become criminals.

Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

What about talking with them? Show your children they can trust you and that you're to guide them, you can't teach them to become good people if you're using violence, pain, abuse and make them be scared of you. If you do that, probably someday they defend themselves from you, is something natural. If you try to beat them, they will protect themselves, probably holding your fists or your wrists with their hands, eluding the belts and anything dangerous or violent you try to do to them

We're civilized people, we can use words, not brutal force. Besides, children are smaller than adults, also weaker, and sorry, but abusing of a person who is smaller and with no possibility to defend themself is in my opinion a coward act. Children are not objects, they have feelings and they can feel pain, if you're against abortion, then protect children in every possible way

Look at this cute baby boy, I don't think his face deserve to receive beatings or punches, I think he deserves a good childhood and being disciplined with love, not with violence

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Pastor Ezekiel 11-24-2013 05:54 AM

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Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm:

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire. :sinner:

PokermonFan1994 11-24-2013 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 1043599)
Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm:

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire. :sinner:

I don't see nothing wrong about trying to protect children from obsolet and abusive ways of "discipline". Bible is not a parenting manual, is a book of faith, and I think you must start to respect life, if you're in this Earth, is because God give you one more day to live, you have no right to kill children, if you decide over another life, then you're taking God's place, that turns you into a sinner. Remember Jesus once saved a woman from death, you can be like him and start to appreciate life

Pim Pendergast 11-24-2013 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PokermonFan1994 (Post 1043601)
I don't see nothing wrong about trying to protect children from obsolet and abusive ways of "discipline". Bible is not a parenting manual, is a book of faith, and I think you must start to respect life, if you're in this Earth, is because God give you one more day to live, you have no right to kill children, if you decide over another life, then you're taking God's place, that turns you into a sinner. Remember Jesus once saved a woman from death, you can be like him and start to appreciate life

How can you possibly "know" all this stuff about God if the Bible is worthless as a guide?

PokermonFan1994 11-24-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pim Pendergast (Post 1043603)
How can you possibly "know" all this stuff about God if the Bible is worthless as a guide?

God can't be locked between paper and ink, he's in every person heart, he gave us a conscience to know the difference between what's wrong and what's right, and if you're making another person suffer, the you must know that's not right thanks to your conscience. God gave us free will, a conscience and a heart, we mustn't waste them

Pim Pendergast 11-24-2013 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PokermonFan1994 (Post 1043606)
God can't be locked between paper and ink, he's in every person heart, he gave us a conscience to know the difference between what's wrong and what's right, and if you're making another person suffer, the you must know that's not right thanks to your conscience. God gave us free will, a conscience and a heart, we mustn't waste them

We must follow the Word of God, not our conscience.

Pastor Ezekiel 11-24-2013 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PokermonFan1994 (Post 1043606)
God can't be locked between paper and ink, he's in every person heart, he gave us a conscience to know the difference between what's wrong and what's right, and if you're making another person suffer, the you must know that's not right thanks to your conscience. God gave us free will, a conscience and a heart, we mustn't waste them

Please post the Scripture that says we can just make things up and call it Godly. :rtfm:


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