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Jeb Stuart Thurmond 05-18-2016 08:34 PM

To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
I'm posting this on behalf of an anonymous "no" voter:

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous
Imagine you're a typical working class guy. You feel like a loser. So you say to yourself, "I'm not a loser, I'm part of America, and America is a winner. I'm a winner." Like a sports team, only with cluster bombs.

Then the new millenium begins, and now America is losing. Even when you live vicariously you're losing. America was a winner, now it's becoming a 3rd world country. What now?

Now you live vicariously through Donald Trump. The non-stop shouting, bragging, putting his name and face on everything, the status symbols....It all makes sense to an insecure person. Increase it to a national level, and you've got a tin-pot dictator.

Tinpots are demagogues that grow from the humiliation of being a 3rd world country. They have huge egos, both personal and national, they brag, both about themselves and their nation, they consume conspicuously, with palaces and national prestige projects. But that's not the important part. The important part is that their attempts to make their nations great again only turns their nations into contemptible laughingstocks. They're losers.

You know how when you're hungry, you picture yourself eating a huge spectacular feast, when all you really need is a granola bar or something? Tinpots are like that, only with a hunger for dignity and respect. All people needed was a little respect, but as the hunger grows it becomes megalomania and next thing you know you're invading the Falkland Islands.

So what's uniquely wrong with tinpots?

1. Though they impress the domestic audience, they look pathetic to other countries.

This is already happening to America. We're becoming a laughingstock.

2. Their thin skin makes them crush dissent, and with it our system of government

Trump: Sueing everyone he can, wants to open libel laws so he can sue more, inciting riots, freaking out over stubby finger jokes.

3. They start lots of pointless wars, putting ego above strategic sense

Trump: Any criticism makes him revert to childish insults. Picking fights with everyone, even the Pope, even Bernie, when strategic sense says Hillary is his rival.

4. Their prestige projects become embarrassing boondoggles

Trump: His whole career is gold-plated status symbols. He promises not just a wall, but a beautiful wall.

5. They can't admit failure, so they have to scapegoat someone, leading to division and oppression at home, and more enemies abroad

Trump: Goes beyond the normal GOP scapegoating playbook, started his political career with conspiracy theories re:Obama, vaccines, Mexican government "Sending us" their criminals.

6. A big ego alienates other countries, losing friends and gaining enemies

Trump: Hardly getting along with the Mexican president. It's bad enough to make enemies, but to make enemies of next-door neighbors?

7. Tinpots are losers. Losers tend to lose.

Fails everytime he leaves the rentier economy of Manhattan Real estate and collides with a functioning free market. Only real success is in being famous for being famous. We might as well vote for Paris Hilton.

8. Instead of the best available advisers, they surround themselves with yes-men

Trump: Advisers are not the best available. Clearly chosen on some other criteria.

Why haven't people pattern-matched Trump to tinpots yet? First of all, the status symbols have changed. For most tinpots, "greatness" meant Napoleon and/or British Royalty. So they would wear European-style uniforms, award themselves medals, give themselves titles, erect statues of themselves, live in palaces, and hold military parades.

Trumps "greatness" is different only superficially. In his world "greatness" means limos, trophy wives, yachts, gold-plated everything, and commuter planes that are to heavy to take off thanks to their marble interiors.

His greatest luxury is being able to say what he wants, I bet all the working stiffs like to live vicariously though that. Anonymous nobodies can get how he puts his name on everything. He uses power the way they would use power.

There's a third type of tinpot style, the European tinpots, for whom "greatness" meant ancient Rome. Mussolini was the most famous one, which brings me to my next topic:

The other reason nobody has spotted the Trump-tinpot pattern: America's tyrant-radar has been calibrated to spot only certain tyrants.

Voters are vigilant for Hitlers, Lenins, and Bin Ladens - the scary, effective enemies.

We tend to forget pathetic enemies - our history is mostly bragging, and who brags about winning a fight with a bug? We beat Saddam Hussein, Noriega, and Qaddafi without breaking a sweat. Santa Anna is ancient history to us.

Now we need to add tinpots to the "do not elect" list, because even if Trump is easily beaten, all the other would-be tinpots are paying attention to our vulnerability. Expect a whole generation of tinpot wannabes to pop up - and expect them to be more dangerous. Expect lots of "like Trump, but without the [election-losing trait]".

We look for ideologues, which tinpots tend not to be. Peronism was an ideology of whatever Peron was thinking at that moment, Qaddafi was switching teams every couple of years. Tinpots don't pay any attention to the left-right political spectrum, which makes them very appealing, because the left-right spectrum is a terrible model that deserves to be ignored. The only real spectrum is how close you are to perfect Biblical law.

I'm also not ready to endorse The Donald. I'm open to backroom deals, but we need to drive a harder bargain with him.

The main problem is his contagious unelectability. Since he's likely to lose, it's better to blame division on the right, rather than make it look like voters don't like Republican policy and leadership style. He doesn't have a chance without a major economic collapse or especially newsworthy terrorist attack. While I'm praying hard for both, we just can't count on it.

Samuel Levenson 05-18-2016 08:57 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
He's kind of wishy-washy on raising taxes on the wealthiest 1% and that makes me nervous. Also, he's not as hard on the homos and liberals as he ought to be. But it looks like our other options are a woman and a Joo.

Unless Ted Cruz pulls a "Daniel in the Lion's Den" then Trump has my vote. I'm sure he can be pressured convinced to fall in line with God's Own Party once he's been elected. I'll be praying about it. :innocent:

Trent Harvey, Jr. 05-21-2016 02:35 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Look, I know it's cool that as early as 2012 you predicted that the Next GOP nominee would be a tinpot dictator-to-be, and it's a bit unusual to see stuff like Reagan speechwriters comparing Trump to Mussolini.

But do you really #nevertrump will amount to anything? Did any of us in the GOP so much as blink before voting for Sarah Palin?

H. Montague Worthington 05-21-2016 09:13 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
It is well known Mr. Trump is for White People. He is the White People candidate. Hillary Clinton-- the only other candidate who has a chance to win-- may be White, but she has worked for a Negro (Obummer) and had Negroes in her house as guests (not just as hired help, but actual guests asked to sit comfortably on her furniture and everything!). She refuses to build a wall to emphasize that Mexicans are subhuman. She refuses to ban Ragheads from our country, and she doesn't make fun of Chinks or Redskins or Eurotrash or Slants or Towel Heads or Jigaboos or Limp-wristed Sissyboys or Pickaninnies or Heebs.

All of my angry friends over 55 (and yes, of course, all of them are White men seething with anger) are voting for Mr. Trump. Therefore I would consider it RACE TREASON to vote for anyone else. Do I look like a RACE TRAITOR, a person who would throw his race under the bus without thinking, for short term gain but long term disaster? No. I am not, and will not, be a a RACE TRAITOR.

We've just had 8 YEARS of a Negro man running the United States into the ground-- feminizing our army, practically begging dark skinned people who hate us to come here and run things, sissifying our foreign policy, allowing Gays to walk freely in public, hiring Negroes to run the Justice Department, appointing all sorts of minorities as Supreme Court Justices, and in a million other ways harming our country with irreparable Political Correctness. We are living in an America where Angry White Men are an endangered species, and as a nation we can't afford that, because up til now we've only allowed Angry or Overconfident White Men to have control of any of our institutions.

Johny Joe Hold 05-21-2016 09:17 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Friends, let's get a little sophisticated here. Donald Trump is skilled at using political code language. When he says, "Let's make America great again", he is giving us an unstated message.

The message is, let's bring Jesus and Christianity back again. He knows True Christians™ are the only hope in the war against Satan. He plans to introduce instructions in Christianity to children in schools. He wants prayers to Jesus before every public meeting.

President George W Bush started every Cabinet meeting with a prayer. We can expect this also from Donald.

I can see the temptation out there to choose "the most qualified candidate" and all of that. But, when the future of Jesus in our country is at stake that is the only issue.

Ezekiel Bathfire 05-21-2016 10:38 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Let's be realistic here! Who else is there? The Donald's a vote magnet - there's people out there say that if that old Bernie "I plead the 5th" Sanders doesn't get to the winning post, they're going to vote Trump, and there aren't enough hippies to get him to that post - so we get their vote too.

Another Clinton in the White House? Is that what anyone wants? Her signature tune is "Whichever way the wind blows." and unless anyone hasn't looked closely, she's a woman!

Get Donald up there! We have friends who'll tell him the answers.

PetitionLady 06-13-2016 12:23 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
I've been a proud Trump supporter ever since he put that pig, Rosie O'Donnell, in her place. That was almost a decade ago.

Note to the OP - you ended your comment by saying you were praying for a terrorist attack - looks like your prayers were answered. Trump is going directly to 1600 PA Ave. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Jeb Stuart Thurmond 06-14-2016 03:59 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PetitionLady (Post 1183172)
Note to the OP - you ended your comment by saying you were praying for a terrorist attack

Yes, but republicans were praying - nothing more.

Praying for the GOP's most hated demographic to be massacred, in a vital swing state, in the exact week the general election began, to the advantage of our candidate.

Just praying. Got that? Stay on message, people!

Jeb Stuart Thurmond 07-16-2016 01:06 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
He's back:

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous

MIKE PENCE!!!! What a shock, what a sensation, what a....Wait...Who the heck is Mike Pence?

Clearly Tinpot Trump didn't want anyone to outsparkle him. Trump the attention-harlot is all about Trump Trump Trump and he doesn't want a moment's attention payed to anyone else. So he chooses the most boring guy there is. Other than helping with Trumps attention-harlotry, there's nothing worth mentioning, except that Mike Pence really, really agrees with us on forced pregnancy.

The logo is a perfect metaphor, see how Trump is shafting Pence:



What a perfect logo for the GOP: A rich coastal con-artist shafting the flyoverland conservative base.


PetitionLady 07-16-2016 01:10 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Mr. Pence is PRO-GOD, PRO-2nd Amendment, PRO-LIFE ... just for starters.

Hillary stands for NONE of the above!

"Either we have a country or we don't." ~Donald J. Trump

PetitionLady 07-16-2016 02:01 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
See for yourselves, friends of GOD and Trump ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zf2Pewgi9I

"We either have a country or we don't." ~Donald J. Trump

Psalms Chapter 1


1 Blessed [is] the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight [is] in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4 The ungodly [are] not so: but [are] like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.


:innocent:

Levi Jones 07-17-2016 07:01 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
I am fully on the Trump train now. I know it was crushing when Senator Cruz lost. He was a true and Godly man.
But I guess I will vote for the thrice divorced STD magnet, because I hate Hillary so much.

PetitionLady 07-17-2016 09:29 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Brother Levi, I assure you I was not crushed when the American voters rejected Cruz. As reported, I too believe Cruz IS 'lucifer in the flesh' and Cruz has proven it over and over again. He's dirty and he LOST.

May God bless America and President Trump. The law and order President.



:pink::pink::pink:

VictoryOS 07-18-2016 07:43 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
I don't know much about politics, but I'm very impressed with Mike Pence. His nane alone just sounds so manly and verile, so strong and upright. Mike Pence. I like it.

PetitionLady 07-19-2016 12:05 AM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VictoryOS (Post 1185359)
I don't know much about politics, but I'm very impressed with Mike Pence. His nane alone just sounds so manly and verile, so strong and upright. Mike Pence. I like it.

Amen, Sister! I appreciate how many times he mentioned God in his acceptance speech and that he said he is a Christian first and foremost. It reminds me of my signature Bible verse below.

Trump-Pence 2016

:bye:

Johny Joe Hold 07-19-2016 01:29 AM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PetitionLady (Post 1185364)
Amen, Sister! I appreciate how many times he mentioned God in his acceptance speech and that he said he is a Christian first and foremost.
Trump-Pence 2016
:bye:

I like the way he has fought abortion and homers tooth and nail. Then, when businesses began to leave Indiana he softened up. I like that too. Our Party is here for business.

Mike Pence Has A Long History Of Fighting Gay Rights

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Indiana Gov. Mike Pence's ® decision to sign a controversial religious freedom bill has landed him in the crosshairs of gay rights proponents, both locally and nationally. But Pence's latest move is consistent with his background of opposing gay rights legislation and championing "traditional" marriage.
Pence, recently, said he was surprised with the intensity of the backlash of the law, which bars Indiana from requiring businesses to serve gay people if the owners have religious objections. It's a move that comes a little over a year after social conservatives lost a fight over adding a gay marriage ban to the state Constitution.
Where gay marriage is concerned, Pence has made a few statements that are pretty benign compared to many Republicans. In 2014, he said the question of same-sex marriage should be left up to the states rather than the federal government.
"In the state of Indiana, marriage is recognized as between a man and a woman, and I think that's how it should remain," Pence said in 2014 in an interview with MSNBC's Chuck Todd.
However, after a federal appeals court ruling halting another court's ruling striking down the state's gay marriage ban, he also vowed that the state would not recognize same-sex couples.
Pence took the Indiana governor's mansion in 2013, following his time in the House of Representatives, where he made opposition to gay rights in general, and gay marriage in particular, his standard practice.
In 2010, Pence signed an open letter by the

VictoryOS 07-19-2016 03:15 PM

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He has strong, masculine hands. That's one distraction the media won't be able to force on us. You know how they are, anything to take attention off that criminal Hillary.

Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson 07-19-2016 08:45 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
My husband hasn't said much about politics in the last couple days to me, but he is very happy with Mike Pence and we agree on his anti-gay agenda! Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence will make America Great Again!

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 07-19-2016 09:06 PM

Re: To Trump or not to Trump: will The Donald get our endorsement?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VictoryOS (Post 1185395)
He has strong, masculine hands. That's one distraction the media won't be able to force on us. You know how they are, anything to take attention off that criminal Hillary.

Pence wears a wedding ring, though, Sister V. I always think that looks a little bit gay, don't you? Still, if it harms the campaign then The Donald can just get him to take it off.

PetitionLady 07-20-2016 02:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson (Post 1185416)
My husband hasn't said much about politics in the last couple days to me, but he is very happy with Mike Pence and we agree on his anti-gay agenda! Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence will make America Great Again!

Smart man, your husband! :praise:


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