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Basilissa 12-31-2016 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200775)
It's because of Joseph smith practice as polygamy that would not allow him to be a member of our church.

You seem to avoid answering this question, dear, but I'll ask it again:

So the founder of your church would be not welcomed in your own church today?

If he was wrong on the polygamy thing, then how do you know that he wasn't wrong on the whole Book of Mormon thing?

Elmer G. White 12-31-2016 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1200777)
You seem to avoid answering this question, dear, but I'll ask it again:

So the founder of your church would be not welcomed in your own church today?

If he was wrong on the polygamy thing, then how do you know that he wasn't wrong on the whole Book of Mormon thing?

Verily, Sister!

I would like this person to answer some questions about the Mountain Meadows Massacre, where blood-thirsty Mormons (and it was on 9/11 1857, a coincidence?) killed innocent Christians. As we know, it would not have been endorsed by any Biblical text, as it was only and purely persecution of Christians.

2 Corinthians 13:11
Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

Apparently the Mormons could not live in peace with the Christian Settlers. Now, my question is what parts of the Book of Mormon or the teachings of your prophet Smith were the ones that condoned this massacre of women and children. As it is not in the Bible that Christians should kill Christians, it must be somewhere in the Book of Mormon, and I need the expertise of this native Mormonian to explain it to us.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

Pim Pendergast 12-31-2016 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200775)
It's because of Joseph smith practice as polygamy that would not allow him to be a member of our church. And Alvin, you do know that is a bit extreme, they were only trying to start a branch. And as for the golden statue. We don't build statues of false idols, that is the angel mormoni, not God. And we don't practice pagan rituals. We are Christian like you, not pagan. And welcome anyone in our church, so long as they are respectful, reverent and don't dress provocatively or inappropriate. But they cannot become members of our church.

What do you make of the contradictions between the Book of Mormon and the Bible?

The term "Christian" didn't come into use until around 40 AD.

Acts 11:26b And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Yet the Book of Alma, supposedly describing events around 73 BC, says the Nephites were Christians.

Alma 46:13-15
13 And he fastened on his head-plate, and his breastplate, and his shields, and girded on his armor about his loins; and he took the pole, which had on the end thereof his rent coat, (and he called it the title of liberty) and he bowed himself to the earth, and he prayed mightily unto his God for the blessings of liberty to rest upon his brethren, so long as there should a band of Christians remain to possess the land—
14 For thus were all the true believers of Christ, who belonged to the church of God, called by those who did not belong to the church.
15 And those who did belong to the church were faithful; yea, all those who were true believers in Christ took upon them, gladly, the name of Christ, or Christians as they were called, because of their belief in Christ who should come.


The Bible says there were three hours of darkness at Jesus' crucifixion.

Lk 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

The Book of Mormon says there would be three days of darkness.

Hel 14:20 But behold, as I said unto you concerning another sign, a sign of his death, behold, in that day that he shall suffer death the sun shall be darkened and refuse to give his light unto you; and also the moon and the stars; and there shall be no light upon the face of this land, even from the time that he shall suffer death, for the space of three days, to the time that he shall rise again from the dead.

The Bible says Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

Mt 2:1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

The Book of Mormon says He would be born in Jerusalem.

Alma 7:10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.

The last two examples are a case of unfulfilled prophecy, which the Bible says must be rejected.

Deut 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

You won't find any glaringly obvious contradictions like these in the Bible. Please explain.

IAmGamerFun 12-31-2016 06:12 AM

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I'm pretty sure that Jesus wasn't born in a city. I'm pretty sure he was born in a manger in the countryside. It was possible that the area that Jesus was born was Jerusalem territory during the writing of the Book of Mormon but was changed to be Bethlehem territory. I can't really explain the Christian thing. And I know nothing about the mountains meadow massacre. This is the first I have heard about it. I will actually go look that up and read into it later. But as for the whole thing about Joseph smith. The reason why that is the only thing we wouldn't let him because of polygamy, is because polygamy goes against our sacred marriage vows. Simply put, while everything else doesn't really contradict, polygamy and our sacred marriage rules don't fit. We found polygamy to be considered a act of lust, which is a sin. So we did away with that.

Pim Pendergast 12-31-2016 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200780)
I'm pretty sure that Jesus wasn't born in a city. I'm pretty sure he was born in a manger in the countryside.

You don't know the Bible very well, do you?

Lk 2:4-7
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.


Perhaps you're getting confused with the shepherds in the countryside who saw the angels and then went to Bethlehem to see Jesus (Lk 2:8-15)?

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It was possible that the area that Jesus was born was Jerusalem territory during the writing of the Book of Mormon but was changed to be Bethlehem territory.
Jerusalem and Bethlehem, although they have been known by different names (Gen 35:19; Jdg 19:10), are, and always have been, two different cities.

https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/682/31...c1b4aa18f4.jpg

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I can't really explain the Christian thing.
That's because there isn't any reasonable explanation. The Bible says one thing; the Book of Mormon says another. Face it. They contradict each other.

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But as for the whole thing about Joseph smith. The reason why that is the only thing we wouldn't let him because of polygamy, is because polygamy goes against our sacred marriage vows. Simply put, while everything else doesn't really contradict, polygamy and our sacred marriage rules don't fit. We found polygamy to be considered a act of lust, which is a sin. So we did away with that.
Jesus taught that monogamy was established in the Garden of Eden and ought to be upheld.

Mt 19:3-7
3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?


But polygamy was allowed for a while.

Ex 21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

Many of the Old Testament saints were polygamists. King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Ki 11:1-3). We don't know how many King David had. Eight are named in the Bible (1 Sam 18:27; 1 Sam 25:39; 2 Sam 3:2-5; 2 Sam 12:24) and he took other wives and concubines on top of that (2 Sam 5:13). Would these men also not be allowed in your church if they were alive today? After all, King David was a man after God's own heart (1 Sam 13:14).

Elmer G. White 12-31-2016 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmGamerFun (Post 1200780)
I'm pretty sure that Jesus wasn't born in a city. I'm pretty sure he was born in a manger in the countryside. It was possible that the area that Jesus was born was Jerusalem territory during the writing of the Book of Mormon but was changed to be Bethlehem territory.

Dear GamerFun,

The game is over. This rationalization is what we call an ad hoc escape. It is a fallacy. Without any other immediate way out of your dilemma, you just dismiss it, and, as a result, either you or one of those responsible for your indoctrination have come up with an idea "that it would be possible".

This is not enough.

We should apply Bayesian probability to this. What is the prior probability of municipalities changing their names or city authorities this way between 40 BC - 0 AD? Can you provide us with some figures? It is also an ad hoc, because it is a simple claim ("it is possible") but you fail to even consider other hypotheses, one which, and, in fact, much more plausible in its prior probability, is the one that Mr. Smith simply invented all this.

We have, as it happens, loads of fictional "sacred texts", much more than the one that is True™. For instance, we have the Popol Vuh, the Tao de ching, The Urantia, Dianetics, the Loose Cannon, etc. Thus, the prior probability of your "sacred book" being an elaborate construction without factual base is much higher than the "possibility of municipalities changing authority". Are you willing to consider this hypotheses, i.e., is your claim falsifiable?

Furthermore, if we look at the actual evidence that is admittedly scarce, we find that Bethlehem was a City by its own right as early as during the Temple period (600-700 BC). Even the name is mentioned (בת לחם). Of course, it is also in the Old Testament that was finished long before the alleged date for your Book of Mormon.

Genesis 35:19
And Rachel died, and was buried in the way to Ephrath, which is Bethlehem.

By all means, you can just decide that a distant possibility invented on the spot is "evidence", but apparently you are also trying to convince others. To attain that, you must do a better job, I'm afraid. The goes for the other discrepancies mentioned in Brother Pim's educated post. Don't forget to test your escape explanations against prior probability.

And, please, learn about the actual history of your religion. The Mountains Meadows Massacre is a good place to begin.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

NotFunny 12-31-2016 07:35 PM

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This post is beautiful, just like our LORD. "Bronies" as they are called are gaylord meme makers. Don't get me started on memes, promoting homosexuality.

Mary Etheldreda 12-31-2016 08:21 PM

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Don't get me started on memes, promoting homosexuality.

It's a deal. How about instead you get started on praising Jesus?


^_^

TheOutsideWorld 05-14-2017 04:47 PM

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Dear Pastor J.C. Manning,I know that you feel very passionate about this due to the fact it destroyed your daughter marriage but I would like to tell you something. A "brony" is someone who is male and likes the show my little pony, the people you are referring to in this article is what is called a "clopper". To the my little pony fandom(the people who like the show) these people are the equivilent of satan worshippers and no one likes them. For example, I am a brony however I do not dress up like that and go to meetings I just simply like the show.
Sincerely,
TheOutsideWorld

Cranky Old Man 05-14-2017 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOutsideWorld (Post 1212765)
A "brony" is someone who is male and likes the show my little pony

Why do we need 1001 words for gay? A grownup man who likes watching series about pink horses meant for little girls is gay. Just use regular words please.

Allow me to demonstrate. No straight male could ever like this:
http://i.imgur.com/aARKOje.png

handmaiden 05-20-2017 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man (Post 1212771)

I think that I may sink into a diabetic coma.

Helper 05-26-2017 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D. (Post 1148661)
Dear Friends,

The Holy Bible warns over and over again that Satan misleads people by pretending to be nice and good. E.g. 2 Corinthians 11:14 "No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light" but also Genesis 3:4-5, John 8:44, Ephesians 6:11, etc. So often when something seems nice and good, in reality it is here only to lure good Christians away from Jesus Christ. Christians should always be alert for things that seem to be to good to be true.

What I want to tell you about is called "My Little Pony". At first sight this seems like an innocent cartoon aimed at young girls. It is about talking colored ponies and mostly seems to teach children about friendship. It contains no sex, no profanity and seems to be all about working hard and being good friends to each other.

It all looks very innocent:
http://i.imgur.com/Lp5vWrd.png

To be very sure the cartoon would not harm their children, my daughter and her husband consulted their local Pastor. They live in Indianola, Mississippi. Their Pastor didn't see any harm in their children looking at this cartoon, provided they first completed their Bible studies. So their children started looking at the My Little Pony cartoon.

At first nothing seemed wrong. The children seemed to enjoy the cartoon and it even improved how they got along. Them something completely unexpected happened. My daughter's husband started to watch the cartoon as well. At first my daughter assumed this was to make sure the cartoon was suitable for their children, but at some point the husband was even watching the cartoons without their children present. This was a bit suspicious but my daughter is a nice and innocent person so she didn't think anything of it. My daughter didn't even get suspicious when her husband was away from home more and more to go to "meetings". The warning signs were there, but she simply didn't notice them. Innocence can be dangerous, as she would soon learn.

Then one day, something horrific happened. Something no one saw coming. Something almost unimaginable. My daughter's husband told her he had to confess something to her. Then he confessed to her, with tears in his eyes, that he had sinned, that he had gone astray, that he had become a "brony". At first my daughter had no idea what that meant, but then he started explaining it to her in full and horrible detail. It turned out My Little Pony isn't designed for children at all. That's just a cover. In reality it is an unfortunate ploy by Satan to seduce grown man into abandoning Jesus Christ. The meetings he went to, while neglecting his innocent wife and children, turned out to be "brony meets". These meetings apparently consist of grown man dressing like ponies (!) and having forbidden sex with each other. These "bronies" use social media to organize these meetings to have their Satanic orgies all under the false pretense of all liking the same silly children's cartoon. As if anyone would ever believe grown men could appreciate colored girly ponies. Clearly this is something completely different.

I am aware these images are shocking but please allow me to show some examples to make sure you see the severity:
http://i.imgur.com/6x3bW0U.png http://i.imgur.com/nYor3JY.png http://i.imgur.com/tZX09Cf.png http://i.imgur.com/l3Pu6DB.png

As you can no doubt imagine, my daughter's and her children's life is now completely in shambles. There is a little light at the end of the tunnel though. Now that my son in law has confessed his horrible sins, he is very slowly getting on the right track again. The next few months he will be in a Christian counseling clinic owned by GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann and her husband, Marcus Bachmann. There they will use prayer to rid him of his newfound homosexual urges and he will eventually be re-oriented there and get back on the straight path set out for us by Jesus Christ. And, of course, My Little Pony has been banned from their television set permanently, so Satan can no longer use it to lure their family away from God. Clearly all of us should join forces to do everything in our power to get this horrible filth banned from television. I have already sent out letters to all presidential candidates to make sure they put this issue high on the political agenda and I urge all of you to do the same. I hope everyone will also join me in prayer against My Little Pony so we can rid America of this filth and have children and husbands spend energy on decent Christian virtues instead.

Yours in Christ,

Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.







This isn't even related to the my little pony business. In fact, the manufactures of "My little Pony" franchise openly condone the usage of this in any way except as a popular children's entertainment.


So if the owners, controlers, and manufactures, of "My little pony" are telling these people that they should stop doing this because it's sick and perverts, who is at fault?


I'd say that the people who took this innocent toy, and perverted it are at fault. Not the toy.
Because the toy can't do anything to stop these twisted people from using them to fulfill their urges. Only God can.


So don't blame the toy. People's sin is people's sin.


This is like saying the some people use guns to murder, therefore, guns are Satan's temptation.


I recommend praying calmly to God for these people to turn away from their sin, rather then condemning them.
The bible preaches forgiveness and understanding and not to judge others.


John 8:7
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.




None of us are without sin. And all sin is equal according to God, because it's disobedience to God. Therefore, we are not worthy to judge the people around us for what they do.


Hate their sin, love them.

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 05-26-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213681)
This isn't even related to the my little pony business. In fact, the manufactures of "My little Pony" franchise openly condone the usage of this in any way except as a popular children's entertainment.

You seem to be arguing against yourself there, dear. If the franchise condones it, then it is responsible.

Helper 05-26-2017 02:20 PM

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Condemns***

Mary Etheldreda 05-26-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213681)
None of us are without sin. And all sin is equal according to God, because it's disobedience to God. Therefore, we are not worthy to judge the people around us for what they do.

You're confused, dear. True Christians™ are perfect, according to the Bible and according to my personal experience. You see, once a man is Born Again (John 3:3), he becomes a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17), one made of incorruptible seed (1 Peter 1:23), and that incorruptible seed means we cannot be corrupted. It is a physical and spiritual impossibility:
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him:
and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1st John 3:6-9
You are mistaken about judging others as well. Not only has Jesus re-created us to be worthy to judge others, but we are commanded to do so (John 7:24). You see, without judging behavior as being sinful, no one would know how to instruct the sinner. This is for the good of the unregenerated soul, dear, and what God demands of His Elect:
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
2nd Timothy 4:1-5
You would have us keep quiet, to the contrary of what Christ tells us. Your silly little encouragement to adopt a vague and meaningless faith that has no real concept of sin or forgiveness won't work here, ear.

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213681)
Hate their sin, love them.

Why? God doesn't.
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 5:5

The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Psalm 11:5

Helper 05-26-2017 05:16 PM

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I didn't say be quiet.

I said it is not your place to judge who will go to hell and who won't.
That is God's place.


No man is equal to God.
God is almighty and all powerful.


Claiming you're equal to God, is a sin. Remember Lucifer?


God says he is perfect, and that Jesus was perfect. He also says explicitly there is no man without sin except Jesus.
If Jesus is the only perfect human, then you cannot say you're perfect without defying God.

Alvin Moss 05-26-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213722)

I said it is not your place to judge who will go to hell and who won't.
That is God's place.


And yet it is also true that the Lord has made clear who He will condemn to Hell and why. Are you saying we should ignore God's commands and His pronouncements?

Helper 05-26-2017 05:39 PM

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Not at all.But when God says he's above all humans, I feel we should listen to that.
Do you?

Mary Etheldreda 05-26-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213722)
I didn't say be quiet.

I said it is not your place to judge who will go to hell and who won't.
That is God's place.

It is our place, nay our responsibility, to identify sin from those around us. Why do you have a problem with this God-Given task?

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213722)
No man is equal to God.
God is almighty and all powerful.

Strawman, dear. No one said any such thing. No one even implied it.

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213722)
Claiming you're equal to God, is a sin. Remember Lucifer?

No one claimed to be "equal to God." These are false accusations you make.

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213722)
God says he is perfect, and that Jesus was perfect. He also says explicitly there is no man without sin except Jesus.
If Jesus is the only perfect human, then you cannot say you're perfect without defying God.

Saying one is without sin is simply sharing the Scriptures, dear. Do you accuse the Scriptures of being misleading? Misinformed? Inaccurate?

This one comparison does not mean full equality. Presumably, Jesus was human in every conceivable way back when He walked the earth. Nevertheless, having eye teeth, blue eyes, or even a fully functioning penile member does not make a man "equal to God."

Cranky Old Man 05-27-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Helper (Post 1213727)
Not at all.But when God says he's above all humans, I feel we should listen to that. Do you?

Duh! Paying attention really isn't your thing now is it? The sad part is that YOU are not listening to God at all. YOU are ignoring HIS commandments. James 2:10, which you no doubt never bothered to read, tells us this means YOU will burn in HELL for all eternity!

A well deserved fate if you ask me... :sinner: :haha:


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