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Elmer G. White 05-14-2019 06:08 AM

Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Eyewitness Testimony! The best kind of evidence there is! And even better if the testimony is uttered by a True Christian™ Eyewitness. A foreign - and thus slightly suspicious - pastor brings us tidings of his recent visits in Heaven. Based on the data we gathered he may even have visited Heaven 15 times and brought back important information about its population. He met many famous and infamous people up there, and among them was Mr. Adolf Hitler, who is probably, however, alive, and thus apparently just another visitor to the Eternal Mansions of Jesus Christ. But let us look at the evidence in detail:

https://i.postimg.cc/CxgnwkKm/image-1.jpg

First, is this man a reliable witness? At least he speaks and writes American but the slightly better grasp of grammar when compared to our Beloved President Trump may raise your suspicions... Let us remember that good skills in American orthography are not necessarily evil, although the Bible clearly opposes secular education (2 Timothy 3:5-7). In fact, George Bernard Shaw witnesses to us that foreigners are allowed to surpass pure-blood Americans in literary skills:
Quote:

Ja vol
Her English is too good, he said
Which clearly indicates that she is foreign
Whereas others are instructed in their native language
English people aren't
On to the content of this foreign prophecy. The people he thought he met in Heaven: Is it plausible (we'll use the triage of the Myth Bastards here, i.e., "confirmed", "plausible" or bustered")?
  • Adolf "Hilter" (could mean Hitler): More than plausible. Between the moment he faked the taking of the cyanide capsule and today he has had 75 years to find Jesus and Repent® from his atrocious sins. Confirmed.
  • Mummer Gadhafi: ??? Probably a passing acquaintance of this self-proclaimed prophet. Plausible.
  • Brenda Fassie: Nevah heard! But found out that "Her drug and alcohol abuse as well as her bisexuality also received much media attention. Her drug habits hampered her music career until she went to a drug rehabilitation centre in 1995." Apparently a mediocre singer. True Christians™ have committed sins as bad or worse (James 2:10) - Plausible!
  • Tongai Moyo: ??? Who cares? Jesus probably did not even notice when this person sneaked into Heaven. I'd say Confirmed.
  • Michael Jackson: Now this is the part of the prophecy that is hard to swallow. Would the notorious catholic-level boy abuser really gain a backstage pass to Jesus? We do have pictorial evidence (see below) but is that enough to prove this beyond reasonable doubt?
https://img.nowness.com/nowness-fron...0d97d4dd7a.jpg

This photograph is not in any context! Jesus could as well be in the middle of the process of discarding Mr. Jackson's soul into Hell! But - God did perform a miracle on Michael Jackson! He made Mr. Jackson White!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...faE6W_azFdTdxm

Psalms 51:7
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be
whiter than snow.
  • Hence: Mr. Jackson is in Heaven - Plausible.
This Prophet also claims to heal cancer, AIDS and even the vicious condition of high Blood Pressure. This is plausible.

Luke 9:1
Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to
cure diseases.
  • Overall assessment: quite Plausible. This prophet needs our attention. His eyewitness testimony seems genuine and we can now determine that Mr. Hitler is either unexpectedly dead or was visiting Heaven at the same time as this foreign man was.
I am currently planning a mission to the African continent to find this Prophet and assess with my own eyewitness testimony his credentials. Fortunately I just received an e-mail about an uncle that I did not know I had. Apparently he perished recently in Nigeria and left a considerable fortune ($ 5 million) that I shall inherit after paying the lawyer over there the token sum of $ 4000 for their expenses. I'll be soon sending them this sum. This will allow me to visit the country and examine this prophet thoroughly. Praise Jesus! And it is so nice to know that anyone can Repent.

:repent:

Jesus does not grade sins (except Matthew 12:31). To just think about stealing an apple from your neighbor's orchard is as bad as a genocide. He'll accept you if you do your Ecclesiastes 12:13 properly. Gory to God!

https://i.postimg.cc/Dwvsq1Km/wpid-h...50-d5eu8e7.jpg


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 05-14-2019 09:33 AM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
That's an interesting claim from Mr Madugwe, Brother Professor Dr White. However, I would exercise caution in any dealings with this man. I see that on his Facebook page he also claims to have arrested Satan at Hades (near Hell).
Quote:

On 6june 2017 prophet madugwe with army commander arrested satan at Hades near hell

Further details are provided:
Quote:

1000 angelic troops participated in battle for 5hrs and captured satan,Rev 12 say they was conflicts and misunderstanding between God and Satan so they arrested him and throw him down,now they were conflicts between prophet Madungwe and satan,abt Gods emergency Visit satan was fighting it but we responded by arresting himRev 20 mentions satan arrest of 1000yrs so its in the bible that we arrest satan.Satan was kept at our base fr 10days until 16 june,0n 19june 2017 he satan appeared at our court in heavenly plece..We agreed to reduce number of fallen angels working with satan so in July we shall declare war to satan
I don't really know what to say about that, so I shall apply Proverbs 17:28 and hold my tongue.






Dennis Lukes 05-14-2019 09:55 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey (Post 1251669)
That's an interesting claim from Mr Madugwe, Brother Professor Dr White. However, I would exercise caution in any dealings with this man. I see that on his Facebook page he also claims to have arrested Satan at Hades (near Hell).

If you try and decipher the boy's Facebook page, and his other Facebook page, he seems to be a fascinating and righteous individual. He also has a Twitter account.

He cures AIDS:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
The doctor say u are hiv positive i come with a new letter says u are not a sick person

He can summon fire from Heaven:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
If u want prophet t.madungwe to send consuming fire to marriage or work or healthy call or whatsup 263776231156 based in harare

He can erase your past:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
Yr background is cancel b e first person to go oversees,b e first person in yr fmly to wed or to stay in Borrowdale or to have a company u shall lead n others follow
Contact prophet t.madungwe @263776231156 yr background will b cancelled immediately without a delay call or whatsup

He got God Himself to make a personal appearance for his congregation:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
Last year 20 October 2016,prophet Madungwe hosted God in his prayer room the hosting lasted one hour

He has learned from God how water is made:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T Madungwe
Water is manufactured in 1st heavenly at a where where press from natural vegetarian things frm garden of eden,bt we don't manufacture water always its rare so we circulate the old water and purify it so we recycle it only


He attended school in Heaven:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
Prophet Madungwe attended heavenly school not yr bible school were u are taught bible wrongly


He is an expert on global politics and economics:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
Germany needs grace u are going thru bad phrase very soon


Yes yr leader must leave office,chancellor Merkel bt after that the nation will shake economically and u will loose yr position as EU biggest power house or biggest economy


Prophet Madungwe might help Germany will think about that


He wants to Make America Great Again:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
God wishes president Donald trump to lead USA nation even after 2nd term let him be USA life president,


He lives in the spiritual realm:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
I live in the Spiritual realm.


LBC ought to contact this boy about delivering a guest sermon.

Scoutman03 05-14-2019 10:52 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmer G. White (Post 1251666)
Eyewitness Testimony! The best kind of evidence there is! And even better if the testimony is uttered by a True Christian™ Eyewitness. A foreign - and thus slightly suspicious - pastor brings us tidings of his recent visits in Heaven. Based on the data we gathered he may even have visited Heaven 15 times and brought back important information about its population. He met many famous and infamous people up there, and among them was Mr. Adolf Hitler, who is probably, however, alive, and thus apparently just another visitor to the Eternal Mansions of Jesus Christ. But let us look at the evidence in detail:

https://i.postimg.cc/CxgnwkKm/image-1.jpg

First, is this man a reliable witness? At least he speaks and writes American but the slightly better grasp of grammar when compared to our Beloved President Trump may raise your suspicions... Let us remember that good skills in American orthography are not necessarily evil, although the Bible clearly opposes secular education (2 Timothy 3:5-7). In fact, George Bernard Shaw witnesses to us that foreigners are allowed to surpass pure-blood Americans in literary skills:On to the content of this foreign prophecy. The people he thought he met in Heaven: Is it plausible (we'll use the triage of the Myth Bastards here, i.e., "confirmed", "plausible" or bustered")?
  • Adolf "Hilter" (could mean Hitler): More than plausible. Between the moment he faked the taking of the cyanide capsule and today he has had 75 years to find Jesus and Repent® from his atrocious sins. Confirmed.
  • Mummer Gadhafi: ??? Probably a passing acquaintance of this self-proclaimed prophet. Plausible.
  • Brenda Fassie: Nevah heard! But found out that "Her drug and alcohol abuse as well as her bisexuality also received much media attention. Her drug habits hampered her music career until she went to a drug rehabilitation centre in 1995." Apparently a mediocre singer. True Christians™ have committed sins as bad or worse (James 2:10) - Plausible!
  • Tongai Moyo: ??? Who cares? Jesus probably did not even notice when this person sneaked into Heaven. I'd say Confirmed.
  • Michael Jackson: Now this is the part of the prophecy that is hard to swallow. Would the notorious catholic-level boy abuser really gain a backstage pass to Jesus? We do have pictorial evidence (see below) but is that enough to prove this beyond reasonable doubt?
https://img.nowness.com/nowness-fron...0d97d4dd7a.jpg

This photograph is not in any context! Jesus could as well be in the middle of the process of discarding Mr. Jackson's soul into Hell! But - God did perform a miracle on Michael Jackson! He made Mr. Jackson White!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...faE6W_azFdTdxm

Psalms 51:7
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be
whiter than snow.
  • Hence: Mr. Jackson is in Heaven - Plausible.
This Prophet also claims to heal cancer, AIDS and even the vicious condition of high Blood Pressure. This is plausible.

Luke 9:1
Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to
cure diseases.
  • Overall assessment: quite Plausible. This prophet needs our attention. His eyewitness testimony seems genuine and we can now determine that Mr. Hitler is either unexpectedly dead or was visiting Heaven at the same time as this foreign man was.
I am currently planning a mission to the African continent to find this Prophet and assess with my own eyewitness testimony his credentials. Fortunately I just received an e-mail about an uncle that I did not know I had. Apparently he perished recently in Nigeria and left a considerable fortune ($ 5 million) that I shall inherit after paying the lawyer over there the token sum of $ 4000 for their expenses. I'll be soon sending them this sum. This will allow me to visit the country and examine this prophet thoroughly. Praise Jesus! And it is so nice to know that anyone can Repent.

:repent:

Jesus does not grade sins (except Matthew 12:31). To just think about stealing an apple from your neighbor's orchard is as bad as a genocide. He'll accept you if you do your Ecclesiastes 12:13 properly. Gory to God!

https://i.postimg.cc/Dwvsq1Km/wpid-h...50-d5eu8e7.jpg


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

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Basilissa 05-15-2019 01:19 AM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Do you have definitive evidence that Hitler did not repent for his sins just before his death, thus opening a pathway to heaven - just like the repentant criminal crucified with Jesus?

Johny Joe Hold 05-15-2019 02:50 AM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1251699)
Do you have definitive evidence that Hitler did not repent for his sins just before his death, thus opening a pathway to heaven - just like the repentant criminal crucified with Jesus?

We have it on good authority the famous atheist, Christopher Hitchens, received Jesus just before he died. As I recall the information came from a Christian nurse who was in the room with him by herself.

If it happened with Hitchens why would we doubt it happened to Hilter?

Cranky Old Man 05-15-2019 04:19 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Usually I don't believe whatever black people are saying but as he is saying something I want to hear so clearly he must be right! Adolf Hitler being in heaven is clearly a well deserved reward for all he did for the cultural and social reform of Germany. Michael Jackson spend all his life on getting rid of his black heritage so clearly God rewarded a black born man trying to become a better white man as well.

James Hutchins 05-15-2019 07:53 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man (Post 1251714)
Usually I don't believe whatever black people are saying but as he is saying something I want to hear so clearly he must be right! Adolf Hitler being in heaven is clearly a well deserved reward for all he did for the cultural and social reform of Germany. Michael Jackson spend all his life on getting rid of his black heritage so clearly God rewarded a black born man trying to become a better white man as well.

Absolutely! Why would people lie about Hitler or that Jackson boy?

Elmer G. White 05-16-2019 04:59 AM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
OK! Glory. Now we have more testimonials. The case is more or less settled. First, if we look at this Prophet we can now see that he is a Real® Prophet as he agrees with us in matters that matter!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Lukes (Post 1251693)
He wants to Make America Great Again:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prophet T. Madungwe
God wishes president Donald trump to lead USA nation even after 2nd term let him be USA life president,


Matthew 7:20
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

If the fruits of this Prophet are as sweet citruses and as tangy toward His enemies as the most wholesome fruit of Christ's Labor - our own Agent Orange Mr. President Trump - then we must determine that this is a powerful Prophecy. In addition, we now have more expert testimonials by our True Christian™ male Brethren, as follows:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1251702)
If it happened with Hitchens why would we doubt it happened to Hilter?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man (Post 1251714)
Usually I don't believe whatever black people are saying but as he is saying something I want to hear so clearly he must be right! Adolf Hitler being in heaven is clearly a well deserved reward for all he did for the cultural and social reform of Germany. Michael Jackson spend all his life on getting rid of his black heritage so clearly God rewarded a black born man trying to become a better white man as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Hutchins (Post 1251721)
Absolutely! Why would people lie about Hitler or that Jackson boy?

The Spiritual Witness of these Christians of high standing prove beyond any doubt that Hitler is or at least was visiting Heaven when this Prophet traveled up there. Our testimony is the strongest case for Jesus that there is!

1 John 4:14
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

MitzaLizalor 05-16-2019 10:20 AM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Germany does not have a Jewish problem.

Burma does not have a Mohammedan problem.

China is taking steps.

God's solution is explicit in The Bible and His righteous Law affirmed by Jesus. It remains in force until the earth ceases to exist. Earth still here? God's rules still apply.

Idols are the worst transgression. That's a horizontal worst because all transgressions are vertically the same. Trumped by a single blasphemy so far as I can see in this thread not committed by any of the above. If I'm wrong here just one example suffices for future reference.

Vengeance Puriel 05-17-2019 01:45 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmer G. White (Post 1251666)
Eyewitness Testimony! The best kind of evidence there is! And even better if the testimony is uttered by a True Christian™ Eyewitness. A foreign - and thus slightly suspicious - pastor brings us tidings of his recent visits in Heaven. Based on the data we gathered he may even have visited Heaven 15 times and brought back important information about its population. He met many famous and infamous people up there, and among them was Mr. Adolf Hitler, who is probably, however, alive, and thus apparently just another visitor to the Eternal Mansions of Jesus Christ. But let us look at the evidence in detail:

https://i.postimg.cc/CxgnwkKm/image-1.jpg

First, is this man a reliable witness? At least he speaks and writes American but the slightly better grasp of grammar when compared to our Beloved President Trump may raise your suspicions... Let us remember that good skills in American orthography are not necessarily evil, although the Bible clearly opposes secular education (2 Timothy 3:5-7). In fact, George Bernard Shaw witnesses to us that foreigners are allowed to surpass pure-blood Americans in literary skills:On to the content of this foreign prophecy. The people he thought he met in Heaven: Is it plausible (we'll use the triage of the Myth Bastards here, i.e., "confirmed", "plausible" or bustered")?
  • Adolf "Hilter" (could mean Hitler): More than plausible. Between the moment he faked the taking of the cyanide capsule and today he has had 75 years to find Jesus and Repent® from his atrocious sins. Confirmed.
  • Mummer Gadhafi: ??? Probably a passing acquaintance of this self-proclaimed prophet. Plausible.
  • Brenda Fassie: Nevah heard! But found out that "Her drug and alcohol abuse as well as her bisexuality also received much media attention. Her drug habits hampered her music career until she went to a drug rehabilitation centre in 1995." Apparently a mediocre singer. True Christians™ have committed sins as bad or worse (James 2:10) - Plausible!
  • Tongai Moyo: ??? Who cares? Jesus probably did not even notice when this person sneaked into Heaven. I'd say Confirmed.
  • Michael Jackson: Now this is the part of the prophecy that is hard to swallow. Would the notorious catholic-level boy abuser really gain a backstage pass to Jesus? We do have pictorial evidence (see below) but is that enough to prove this beyond reasonable doubt?
https://img.nowness.com/nowness-fron...0d97d4dd7a.jpg

This photograph is not in any context! Jesus could as well be in the middle of the process of discarding Mr. Jackson's soul into Hell! But - God did perform a miracle on Michael Jackson! He made Mr. Jackson White!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...faE6W_azFdTdxm

Psalms 51:7
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be
whiter than snow.
  • Hence: Mr. Jackson is in Heaven - Plausible.
This Prophet also claims to heal cancer, AIDS and even the vicious condition of high Blood Pressure. This is plausible.

Luke 9:1
Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to
cure diseases.
  • Overall assessment: quite Plausible. This prophet needs our attention. His eyewitness testimony seems genuine and we can now determine that Mr. Hitler is either unexpectedly dead or was visiting Heaven at the same time as this foreign man was.
I am currently planning a mission to the African continent to find this Prophet and assess with my own eyewitness testimony his credentials. Fortunately I just received an e-mail about an uncle that I did not know I had. Apparently he perished recently in Nigeria and left a considerable fortune ($ 5 million) that I shall inherit after paying the lawyer over there the token sum of $ 4000 for their expenses. I'll be soon sending them this sum. This will allow me to visit the country and examine this prophet thoroughly. Praise Jesus! And it is so nice to know that anyone can Repent.

:repent:

Jesus does not grade sins (except Matthew 12:31). To just think about stealing an apple from your neighbor's orchard is as bad as a genocide. He'll accept you if you do your Ecclesiastes 12:13 properly. Gory to God!

https://i.postimg.cc/Dwvsq1Km/wpid-h...50-d5eu8e7.jpg


Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

The email about the inherited money is a scam I had one once and they kept demanding me pay more and more i called them scammers and they said sorry and disappeared

James Hutchins 05-17-2019 03:31 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengeance Puriel (Post 1251832)
The email about the inherited money is a scam I had one once and they kept demanding me pay more and more i called them scammers and they said sorry and disappeared

It is not very Christian of you to call people names. It breaks my heart to hear stories about people like you that string others along only to be faced with disappointment.

It reminds me of the story of the man on the ledge. This fellow was taking a freshly slaughtered pig home. Walking on the side of a mountain, he failed to pay attention and slipped down, over a cliff. Falling 100's of feet, he landed on a narrow ledge. Both legs fractured in multiple places. He lay there for days, hoping someone would find him, starving and thirsty. Not touching the pig of course, it was for someone else. Eventually, a person came along and heard his sobs. They tossed down a rope and began to pull the fellow up. Just when the poor near death guy was at the edge of the path, the 'Good Samaritan' (you) let go of the rope, destining the poor hurt fellow to death. Because the guy had a pig. What the mean guy (you) did not realize that the pig was for him (you) as a gift.
How can you be so heartless?:thumbdown:

Johny Joe Hold 05-17-2019 05:10 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengeance Puriel (Post 1251832)
The email about the inherited money is a scam I had one once and they kept demanding me pay more and more i called them scammers and they said sorry and disappeared

Brother White is trying to help us. His information is solid. Why insult him with such an accusation?

MitzaLizalor 05-18-2019 06:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoutman03 (Post 1251697)

There seems to be a suggestion going around that people cannot see what is going on in Heaven. Others will be able to explain about Shinto or Zoroastrian heavens, if they even have them, but actual. Heaven is described in The Bible with sufficient detail to be certain so it's important to understand what the words mean.


Angel is a word often used today to signify something quite different from what's intended by Biblical authors. These are messengers from God often empowered to enforce His decisions.

II Samuel 24:16 When the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand.

Angels also praise God. When Jesus was born an angel informed the shepherds and was accompanied by a heavenly multitude all praising God. There cannot be a heavenly host unless there is also a Heaven and that's where they went after the praise activity. They did not prance around in vinyl hot-pants and nowhere in The Bible are they described as little fluttering birdlike objects. Christians know the difference and never use the word in so mawkish a context.

Luke 2:13-16 Suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds..came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.

We know that Heaven exists. It is above the sky. Although the sky is normally closed there have been occasions when it opened up and people could see what happening on the other side. There are several testimonies from Luke confirming how Jesus got there and where He is now. There have also been other observations made; here are four (4) instances from Luke, Stephen and Mark.

LUKE'S TESTIMONY

Luke 24:50-51 And he [Jesus] led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

Acts 1:8b-11a Ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. And when he [Jesus] had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?


STEPHEN'S TESTIMONY

Acts 7:54-56 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him [Stephen] with their teeth. But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.


MARK'S TESTIMONY

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.


There are people who deny that The Bible is true. They have made up a special "magic" heaven having no basis in reality. They've made up angels and invented lies to benefit themselves with little or no regard for how others are affected whether they believe the lies or not. And lies they must be. No matter how often and over how many centuries the deception has been accepted, at some point it was invented. The events described could never have taken place because they are impossible. Whoever first proposed the lie knew that no such event occurred. From time to time a criminal emerges able to use the lie for gigantic fraud. Once initiated the fraud becomes self perpetuating.

That needn't have been the original intent. It's just an example of one outcome where little or no regard is paid as to how others are affected. We know these things are impossible because they contradict God. He. knows where Heaven is and that by opening the sky we can see Jesus there.
He has opened the sky.

Jesus was seen.

There can be no excuse for believing lies or questioning reality when by reading The Bible certainty is available. Without its Testimony the liars might be listened to, even believed, but in its pages are words to reassure us and dispel such doubts forever.


..Thank you Jesus

Thank you Lord

Collinslaw 05-19-2019 09:39 AM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor (Post 1251855)
There seems to be a suggestion going around that people cannot see what is going on in Heaven. Others will be able to explain about Shinto or Zoroastrian heavens, if they even have them, but actual. Heaven is described in The Bible with sufficient detail to be certain so it's important to understand what the words mean.


Angel is a word often used today to signify something quite different from what's intended by Biblical authors. These are messengers from God often empowered to enforce His decisions.
II Samuel 24:16 When the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand.
Angels also praise God. When Jesus was born an angel informed the shepherds and was accompanied by a heavenly multitude all praising God. There cannot be a heavenly host unless there is also a Heaven and that's where they went after the praise activity. They did not prance around in vinyl hot-pants and nowhere in The Bible are they described as little fluttering birdlike objects. Christians know the difference and never use the word in so mawkish a context.
Luke 2:13-16 Suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds..came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
We know that Heaven exists. It is above the sky. Although the sky is normally closed there have been occasions when it opened up and people could see what happening on the other side. There are several testimonies from Luke confirming how Jesus got there and where He is now. There have also been other observations made; here are four (4) instances from Luke, Stephen and Mark.

Luke 24:50-51 And he [Jesus] led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

Acts 1:8b-11a Ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. And when he [Jesus] had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?


STEPHEN'S TESTIMONY

Acts 7:54-56 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him [Stephen] with their teeth. But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.


MARK'S TESTIMONY

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
There are people who deny that The Bible is true. They have made up a special "magic" heaven having no basis in reality. They've made up angels and invented lies to benefit themselves with little or no regard for how others are affected whether they believe the lies or not. And lies they must be. No matter how often and over how many centuries the deception has been accepted, at some point it was invented. The events described could never have taken place because they are impossible. Whoever first proposed the lie knew that no such event occurred. From time to time a criminal emerges able to use the lie for gigantic fraud. Once initiated the fraud becomes self perpetuating.

That needn't have been the original intent. It's just an example of one outcome where little or no regard is paid as to how others are affected. We know these things are impossible because they contradict God. He. knows where Heaven is and that by opening the sky we can see Jesus there.
He has opened the sky.

Jesus was seen.

There can be no excuse for believing lies or questioning reality when by reading The Bible certainty is available. Without its Testimony the liars might be listened to, even believed, but in its pages are words to reassure us and dispel such doubts forever.

..Thank you Jesus

Thank you Lord

yes, its a clear insight. The Holy Bible should be a strong standpoint. Look into 1 Timothy 3:16 .the concerns about The genuity of heaven is something we should discard as my bible let's us know that no faith makes all our efforts in vain. See Hebrews 11:6

Collinslaw 05-19-2019 09:48 AM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
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Originally Posted by Elmer G. White (Post 1251666)
Eyewitness Testimony! The best kind of evidence there is! And even better if the testimony is uttered by a True Christian™ Eyewitness. A foreign - and thus slightly suspicious - pastor brings us tidings of his recent visits in Heaven. Based on the data we gathered he may even have visited Heaven 15 times and brought back important information about its population. He met many famous and infamous people up there, and among them was Mr. Adolf Hitler, who is probably, however, alive, and thus apparently just another visitor to the Eternal Mansions of Jesus Christ. But let us look at the evidence in detail:

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First, is this man a reliable witness? At least he speaks and writes American but the slightly better grasp of grammar when compared to our Beloved President Trump may raise your suspicions... Let us remember that good skills in American orthography are not necessarily evil, although the Bible clearly opposes secular education (2 Timothy 3:5-7). In fact, George Bernard Shaw witnesses to us that foreigners are allowed to surpass pure-blood Americans in literary skills:On to the content of this foreign prophecy. The people he thought he met in Heaven: Is it plausible (we'll use the triage of the Myth Bastards here, i.e., "confirmed", "plausible" or bustered")?
  • Adolf "Hilter" (could mean Hitler): More than plausible. Between the moment he faked the taking of the cyanide capsule and today he has had 75 years to find Jesus and Repent® from his atrocious sins. Confirmed.
  • Mummer Gadhafi: ??? Probably a passing acquaintance of this self-proclaimed prophet. Plausible.
  • Brenda Fassie: Nevah heard! But found out that "Her drug and alcohol abuse as well as her bisexuality also received much media attention. Her drug habits hampered her music career until she went to a drug rehabilitation centre in 1995." Apparently a mediocre singer. True Christians™ have committed sins as bad or worse (James 2:10) - Plausible!
  • Tongai Moyo: ??? Who cares? Jesus probably did not even notice when this person sneaked into Heaven. I'd say Confirmed.
  • Michael Jackson: Now this is the part of the prophecy that is hard to swallow. Would the notorious catholic-level boy abuser really gain a backstage pass to Jesus? We do have pictorial evidence (see below) but is that enough to prove this beyond reasonable doubt?
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This photograph is not in any context! Jesus could as well be in the middle of the process of discarding Mr. Jackson's soul into Hell! But - God did perform a miracle on Michael Jackson! He made Mr. Jackson White!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...faE6W_azFdTdxm

Psalms 51:7
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be
whiter than snow.
  • Hence: Mr. Jackson is in Heaven - Plausible.
This Prophet also claims to heal cancer, AIDS and even the vicious condition of high Blood Pressure. This is plausible.

Luke 9:1
Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to
cure diseases.
  • Overall assessment: quite Plausible. This prophet needs our attention. His eyewitness testimony seems genuine and we can now determine that Mr. Hitler is either unexpectedly dead or was visiting Heaven at the same time as this foreign man was.
I am currently planning a mission to the African continent to find this Prophet and assess with my own eyewitness testimony his credentials. Fortunately I just received an e-mail about an uncle that I did not know I had. Apparently he perished recently in Nigeria and left a considerable fortune ($ 5 million) that I shall inherit after paying the lawyer over there the token sum of $ 4000 for their expenses. I'll be soon sending them this sum. This will allow me to visit the country and examine this prophet thoroughly. Praise Jesus! And it is so nice to know that anyone can Repent.

:repent:

Jesus does not grade sins (except Matthew 12:31). To just think about stealing an apple from your neighbor's orchard is as bad as a genocide. He'll accept you if you do your Ecclesiastes 12:13 properly. Gory to God!

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Yours in Christ,

Elmer :bye:

brother elmer ,I pray God strengthens you in your ministry sir. Well,if you seek to come to Nigeria. I stay in Nigeria and am a lawyer as well. I am at your service to assist you where necessary. Nigeria just like every other country made up of both good and bad people. If you are to apply for inheritance which I specialise in my career,you will need a " letter of administration" from the probate registry.I do have some clients who have come to me on similar issues. Nigeria has its own laws sir

MitzaLizalor 05-19-2019 11:36 AM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
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Originally Posted by Collinslaw (Post 1251896)
no faith makes all our efforts in vain. See Hebrews 11:6

Hebrews 11 is a great chapter. A life with no faith is not liveable for a Christian. Unlike many heathens who seek to make merit by their own efforts—more like a game of snakes and ladders that a spiritual condition—Christians have accepted Christ doing what no-one can do for themselves.

No effort we made could ever achieve anything without faith but that is not to endorse inaction. Take Lot for example. A just man. He was so upset by all the antics going on around him yet, in his righteousness, he knew by faith that God would do something about it. Lot was delivered out of temptation by God and the cities were destroyed.

II Peter 2:7-9
[God]
delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked. (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds.) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished.

But that didn't mean Lot could just sit around and do nothing. There were other cities, Zoar for example was not destroyed, but Lot removed his family (what was left of it) and opted for cave dwelling. You can read about Lot's faith and God's protection here:

Genesis 19:30-36
Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

But although faith is essential not everything is faith. To preserve his righteousness Lot needed to act. Zoar was simply a temporary safe haven. It was not the sort of place anyone with a sense of justice would hang around for long. Lot had to get himself up and get on with it.

Clearly the cave was not temporary. The Bible does not explain if they planted crops or held cattle or tended vineyards. It would be difficult to obtain supplies otherwise though, even without money they could barter but they'd still need something to trade. But they all knew Sodom was blitzed because they'd seen it. Well, they'd seen the ruin if not the main event. Observing that was infra dig on a rather majestic scale!

Heaven is like that too. God opened the sky to show people what was there. Like the cities of the plain it's a matter of observation: Jesus was there. In Hebrews it's explained that what we see does not have its origin in the material world. I know that heathen types, those with no faith, place a different interpretation on Chapter 11 invoking atoms. Sadly the author had a word for atoms but didn't use it. That's a seperate topic though.

Collinslaw 05-19-2019 12:34 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
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Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor (Post 1251905)
Hebrews 11 is a great chapter. A life with no faith is not liveable for a Christian. Unlike many heathens who seek to make merit by their own efforts—more like a game of snakes and ladders that a spiritual condition—Christians have accepted Christ doing what no-one can do for themselves.

No effort we made could ever achieve anything without faith but that is not to endorse inaction. Take Lot for example. A just man. He was so upset by all the antics going on around him yet, in his righteousness, he knew by faith that God would do something about it. Lot was delivered out of temptation by God and the cities were destroyed.
II Peter 2:7-9
[God]
delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked. (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds.) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished.
But that didn't mean Lot could just sit around and do nothing. There were other cities, Zoar for example was not destroyed, but Lot removed his family (what was left of it) and opted for cave dwelling. You can read about Lot's faith and God's protection here:
Genesis 19:30-36
Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
But although faith is essential not everything is faith. To preserve his righteousness Lot needed to act. Zoar was simply a temporary safe haven. It was not the sort of place anyone with a sense of justice would hang around for long. Lot had to get himself up and get on with it.

Clearly the cave was not temporary. The Bible does not explain if they planted crops or held cattle or tended vineyards. It would be difficult to obtain supplies otherwise though, even without money they could barter but they'd still need something to trade. But they all knew Sodom was blitzed because they'd seen it. Well, they'd seen the ruin if not the main event. Observing that was infra dig on a rather majestic scale!

Heaven is like that too. God opened the sky to show people what was there. Like the cities of the plain it's a matter of observation: Jesus was there. In Hebrews it's explained that what we see does not have its origin in the material world. I know that heathen types, those with no faith, place a different interpretation on Chapter 11 invoking atoms. Sadly the author had a word for atoms but didn't use it. That's a seperate topic though.

Alleluia Sister! The Bible says in James 2:14-26


What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [c]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [d]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [e]accounted to him for righteousness.”And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sentthem out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also

CodeBlazeFate 10-20-2019 04:09 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
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Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor (Post 1251754)
Germany does not have a Jewish problem.

Burma does not have a Mohammedan problem.

China is taking steps.

God's solution is explicit in The Bible and His righteous Law affirmed by Jesus. It remains in force until the earth ceases to exist. Earth still here? God's rules still apply.

Idols are the worst transgression. That's a horizontal worst because all transgressions are vertically the same. Trumped by a single blasphemy so far as I can see in this thread not committed by any of the above. If I'm wrong here just one example suffices for future reference.



Adolf Hitler was a great man. A soldier of Christ. I hope to one day be like him and emulate the Aryan race.

Isabella White 10-20-2019 05:40 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler Is in Heaven? Eyewitness Testimony!
 
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Originally Posted by CodeBlazeFate (Post 1259028)
Adolf Hitler was a great man. A soldier of Christ. I hope to one day be like him and emulate the Aryan race.

Oh, my; well, that is rather fascinating, Miss Fate, but of even greater interest is how you've managed to bypass our friendly Introduction Forum. This is where we ask all newcomers to post a message, to introduce themselves, to the :true-fancy: servants at :landover-fancy:.

The link to that part of our blessed site is here:

https://www.landoverbaptist.net/forumdisplay.php?f=16

Please note our request, which is at the top of that page:

The introduction forum Attention Unsaved Trash: This the ONLY subforum you can start threads in. Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

We do look forward to getting to know you.

Sincerely, Isabella W.


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