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James Hutchins 03-06-2014 12:06 AM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by JonTheTruth (Post 1071079)
u are an idiot

Welcome friend, do tell, what langauge is the bolded word?
Normally, the first word of a sentence is caplitalized but instead of making an assumption, I thought I'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, as it were.

Lovefullmom 04-12-2014 02:12 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by loveforchrist (Post 686807)
For ages evil lieberals have used their twisted satanic logic to persuade good people from hitting their kids. They have used all manner of evil propaganda, everything from movies, to newspaper articles, to public service announcements. I'm here to tell you that this is not true. Beating your kids is perhaps one of the only ways to get a message across to a small child. You see, what scientists won't tell you is that a child's brain is not as developed, and therefore will not understand if you "ask them nicely" not to do something. For example, let's say your child breaks your favorite crucifix. While you could probably just get a new one, and if you are a real Christian you no doubt have more, you need your child to know that he/she has done you wrong. What would a lieberal do? Give them a prissy, politically correct "talking to"... This does nothing. Your kid is most likely too stupid to understand what you are saying, and even if they did, they probably wouldn't remember. However, no matter how old you are, you've got to understand a physical punishment. Even Godless animals understand that they have done wrong when you hurt them. Also, your kids will ALWAYS remember NOT to do it again, because they have scars and bruises to remind them of it.

Most of you probably know how beneficial it can be to beat your children. However there can be enormous side affects from NOT BEATING YOUR KIDS! The following are just a few side effects that lieberals won't tell you

1. Neglecting to beat your kid will make him gay.
It is a known fact that homersexuality is a choice. Of course you will meet godless mormons who say different, but who needs them. So why would your kid decide to be a dirty homer? It could be because you never enforced discipline onto him. See, if your father beats you as a child, you will always be afraid of him, the way God intended. However, if you give him the impression that you accept him and that you love him either way, he will get all kinds of sick ideas into his head. I have seen it happen over and over again. I know my children will never turn to Satan, because they know I will beat the life out of them if they do.

2. Not being beaten can lead to being a criminal.
Why do you think people do criminal things? Why do they steal? Why do they rape? Why do they murder? It's because when they were a child, they would misbehave and not be corrected. You see, not being beaten can scar kids for life. They will forever think you don't care enough to hit them. They will also grow up thinking that they can do whatever their little sinning hearts desire and not face the back of your hand.

2. Children who are not beaten grow up weak.
Let's say that your kid grows up and joins the army. Fortunately, you beat him often, giving him only enough time between beatings for his blood to dry. When he ships off into Iraq, he will be ready for anything. Having been raised on pain, he will be ready to deal with the cruelty of the non-believers. Now let us say that another child was raised by a lieberal, and was not beaten. Pain will be a NEW THING to him, and he will be killed in the first minute. Do you really want this happening to your offspring?

Not sure how to get started? Here's a helpful guide

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat

^This is a good article to read if you are a beginner at beating your kids. For those of you too lazy to click the link, here are the highlights of the page.

"-Five across the eyes: This is a very basic maneuver and usually enough to cover most situations when your child is out of line. Simply put four fingers tightly together and either leave the thumb off to the side or fold it behind the other four fingers. Then smack your kid across the face with the back of your hand. Now this is the tricky part: make sure to snap your wrist just before contact otherwise you won't get a stinging effect. Very important because you don't want to risk letting your kid think you're a pussy.

-The sucker punch: Just ask the question "hey, what's that on your shirt?" and when they look down, bust their lip. You need to do this every now and then to keep them guessing. Don't ever let them off the hook. Just because they're not doing anything wrong doesn't mean that they didn't do something wrong earlier that you weren't aware of.

-The yard stick: Or for those of you who don't use the arbitrary American system, this is also known as "the meter stick." This is a good general purpose beating because the stick usually doesn't last beyond three or four good whacks--usually enough to send the message.

-The one-two shut-the-hell-up: This is priceless when you're shopping and your kid won't shut the hell up: "I'm hungry, I want toys, I need my Insulin..." etc. First smack your kid (the 5 across the eyes technique works). Wait a few seconds for your kid to start crying, then smack your kid again to let him know that you mean business. This usually shuts them up because they see that the amount of crying is proportional to the amount of beatings.

-The 2 x 4 / PVC pipe: If you do your job as a parent, this should never have to be administered. This is for heavy duty jobs only (ie. any time your kid comes home and begins a sentence with "she might be pregnant..." or "I can if I want to..." where the blank can be any of the following: smoke, have sex, experiment with drugs, watch Oprah, etc). Usually the threat of this beating is enough to keep your kid from screwing up.

-The Dragon Kick: If you're interested in a permanent solution to your child giving you lip about washing the dishes, cleaning his or her room or filing your tax return, then the Dragon kick might be the technique for you. I guarantee that you will only have to ask once after the Dragon kick has been administered.

-The skull thump: A quick blow usually dealt to the side or back of the head. Simply flick them in the head with your finger. An alternative is to smack your child up side the head with your palm. Very useful for teaching your child to read when he or she makes a mistake. Hitting your child when he or she is learning builds confidence, or undermines confidence--I can't remember which.

-The one-handed chauffeur reach around: A quick reach around while you're driving to smack your kid and his friends too if they disrespect. Swerve the car back and forth for the full effect.

-The cane intercept: If you're too old to chase your kid around the house, use the handle of your cane to trip him if he tries to get away. When he gets up, poke him in the head a few times to let him know who's boss."

But what does the Bible have to say about all this?
It's on my side!

Proverbs 13:24
- He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes

Proverbs 23:13
- Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 29:15
- The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

Sirach 30:1
- He that loveth his son causeth him oft to feel the rod, that
he may have joy of him in the end.

The Bible has a very clear guide to parenting. A father can benefit from the word of the Lord on this subject especially

And remember:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....s/beatkid4.jpg

Its good to hear from others thats nothin rong with a good christian spanking:

Our son is 5 and is physicaly disabled with spina bifida. Sometimes hes werry werry stuborn and has a thirty mouth.

I thout about taking his diaper of and wipp hes bare little bottom but its werry dificult because he would have leg spasm and has absolute no blather or bowl control.

Would a whipping on his bare legs and feet be ok? With wath and how do you think i should discipline him?

Thank you and all the best!

Bob 04-12-2014 03:14 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Lovefullmom (Post 1080652)
Would a whipping on his bare legs and feet be ok? With wath and how do you think i should discipline him?

My mom always hits my head with a stick if I do something wrong. She always says that she doesn't have to look at my filthy body that way. She hits me a lot as I often do something wrong and Proverbs 23:13-14 says you should hit your children. Just yesterday I went to the store and bought the wrong kind of coffee filters. When I told her they were out of the kind she likes she hit me again and said I shouldn't blame others when I do something wrong.

Pastor Ezekiel 04-13-2014 02:52 AM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Lovefullmom (Post 1080652)
Its good to hear from others thats nothin rong with a good christian spanking:

Our son is 5 and is physicaly disabled with spina bifida. Sometimes hes werry werry stuborn and has a thirty mouth.

I thout about taking his diaper of and wipp hes bare little bottom but its werry dificult because he would have leg spasm and has absolute no blather or bowl control.

Would a whipping on his bare legs and feet be ok? With wath and how do you think i should discipline him?

Thank you and all the best!


How often does your husband beat it now?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm:

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire. :sinner:

MitzaLizalor 04-14-2014 09:54 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Fisher-Lacey (Post 1064057)
It is impossible to follow both covenants, old and new. Read your King James Bibles. Read where Jesus came and changed everything. Read ALL OF IT, NOT JUST THE PARTS YOU LIKE.

At the end of Revelation. Read that one again.

I just did. Couldn't find anything. Perhaps you would like to post the Scripture you're thinking of (in context, please)?

But if, as you seem to think, the "old" covenant has lapsed, the 10 Commandments "time expired" and the other 603 Commandments null & void for some reason, then murder is OK now? Is that what you're saying?

Remember that although when Jesus was with us on earth He encouraged us to love one another as indeed we still should, just prior to His departure He reminded us that weapons were even more important than clothing. Why did He do that?

LUKE 22
35
[Jesus speaking] ..When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip:
and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
KJV _ look up _ CONTEXT

As has been posted repeatedly, God is very clear that discipline requires beating.
Beating requires an implement.
The implement must cause injury.

And God explains why.

It is because He loves us. And The Bible is clear that we must be frightened of Him. And we must love Him back. Otherwise He will torture us forever.
Yet the heathen in folly ignores God's Perfect Love.
That is called tragedy.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO PUT JESUS FIRST AND TO READ THE BIBLE. Otherwise it is certain that you are setting your child up for perdition. Of course it is possible that God has predestined a heathen child for Salvation, but really quite unlikely for example think of all the billions of Hindu children who never heard about Jesus or Aztecs or Kamchatkan savages.
Satan has a plan too, you know.
It is well advanced in these Last Days.

I have posted some handy pointers for parents HERE.

I hope that is helpful for you.

lukasekman 04-15-2014 09:16 AM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Lovefullmom (Post 1080652)
Its good to hear from others thats nothin rong with a good christian spanking:

Our son is 5 and is physicaly disabled with spina bifida. Sometimes hes werry werry stuborn and has a thirty mouth.

I thout about taking his diaper of and wipp hes bare little bottom but its werry dificult because he would have leg spasm and has absolute no blather or bowl control.

Would a whipping on his bare legs and feet be ok? With wath and how do you think i should discipline him?

Thank you and all the best!

I'd hit him where the demons reside. If he wet himself, poke him in the bladder with a rod, and if he crap himself, hit him in the gut or lower back with a rod. Washing out his mouth with soap works wonders for dirty mouth and excessive talking.

If you hit his legs, watch out for the insides of the thighs. There is no risk now and for several years to come, but once he reach his teens, it is worth considering that the insides of the thighs is a common erogenous zone for men.

Lovefullmom 04-15-2014 10:56 AM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
Thanks lukasekman for your help

Today as i changed his diaper i first switched his bare belly, upper legs and hips and i trayd to spank between his legs but his spams cramp hes thights so hard together no chance. He can also cover himself with his arms and his under legs and feet are cramping and 'dancing'.

maybe you can give me an idea to hold his legs apart or spank him lower under knees it would be less dificult i think because knees down he has a lower Sensation and his feet are absolute weak. Mouth washing did work, thank you so much!

perhaps i can send you an image of him?

Lovefullmom 04-15-2014 11:03 AM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by lukasekman (Post 1081567)
I'd hit him where the demons reside. If he wet himself, poke him in the bladder with a rod, and if he crap himself, hit him in the gut or lower back with a rod. Washing out his mouth with soap works wonders for dirty mouth and excessive talking.

If you hit his legs, watch out for the insides of the thighs. There is no risk now and for several years to come, but once he reach his teens, it is worth considering that the insides of the thighs is a common erogenous zone for men.

Thanks lukaseman for that helpfull adive!

I before a wew minutes the blather and gut spanking it worked wonders i think! But his legs are werry dificult, dancing around from spasm whenn i hit him from belly down to the knees.

Maybe i should pin his legs someway down and spank him more on his lower legs and feet, he has no muscles ther.

Mary Thompson 04-15-2014 12:15 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Lovefullmom (Post 1081588)
Thanks lukaseman for that helpfull adive!

I before a wew minutes the blather and gut spanking it worked wonders i think! But his legs are werry dificult, dancing around from spasm whenn i hit him from belly down to the knees.

Maybe i should pin his legs someway down and spank him more on his lower legs and feet, he has no muscles ther.

What I would recommend is for beatings is get the kid to bend over and touch his toes, so his legs are stretched and vulnerable. Beat the living daylights out of that kid and he will be screaming in Glory :thumbsup:. Tried this on all my sons, worked every time.

Lovefullmom 04-15-2014 01:45 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Mary Thompson (Post 1081597)
What I would recommend is for beatings is get the kid to bend over and touch his toes, so his legs are stretched and vulnerable. Beat the living daylights out of that kid and he will be screaming in Glory :thumbsup:. Tried this on all my sons, worked every time.

Dear Mary

The problem is that as you read the last posts carefully, he cant stand and has absolute no balance in his crippled back.

Lovefullmom 04-15-2014 01:53 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Lovefullmom (Post 1081614)
Dear Mary

The problem is that as you read the last posts carefully, he cant stand and has absolute no balance in his crippled back.

And i also have to prevent the bed from hes pee when his spasming hiny shakes.

Mary Thompson 04-15-2014 10:24 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
How else are you meant to cure a cripple? Proverbs 20:30. Of course, prayer and excorism will work well too.

Lovefullmom 04-16-2014 10:37 AM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Mary Thompson (Post 1081720)
How else are you meant to cure a cripple? Proverbs 20:30. Of course, prayer and excorism will work well too.

I now found a way to whipp him properly: I first lay him face up on the bed legs out of the bed and stripe him naked but with the opened diaper under the butt. Then i lay his underlegs over the backrest of the wheelchair and lay a heawy book over his bare feet so they are pressed in the seat. So his belly, hips and back are stretched and liftet up a little and i can reach all painfull spots on the foreside specialy between the legs and the genitale and also a bitt hes bottom. The spankings for messing are still a little more difficult ...:wacko:

lukasekman 04-16-2014 08:21 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Lovefullmom (Post 1081585)
Thanks lukasekman for your help

Today as i changed his diaper i first switched his bare belly, upper legs and hips and i trayd to spank between his legs but his spams cramp hes thights so hard together no chance. He can also cover himself with his arms and his under legs and feet are cramping and 'dancing'.

maybe you can give me an idea to hold his legs apart or spank him lower under knees it would be less dificult i think because knees down he has a lower Sensation and his feet are absolute weak. Mouth washing did work, thank you so much!

perhaps i can send you an image of him?

I'm glad you're making progress with him.

One idea is to first bend his legs apart, then keep them spread by pinning his thighs with your shins or knees. Pin down his chest with your left hand. This would give you time to focus on poking his offending bladder without collateral damage to adjacent parts.

Sincerely in Christ, Lukas

Lovefullmom 04-20-2014 08:40 PM

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by lukasekman (Post 1082096)
I'm glad you're making progress with him.

One idea is to first bend his legs apart, then keep them spread by pinning his thighs with your shins or knees. Pin down his chest with your left hand. This would give you time to focus on poking his offending bladder without collateral damage to adjacent parts.

Sincerely in Christ, Lukas

Dear Lucas

Yes this was it! I tried your idea last and this morning, he has now little round red marks from under the belly button tho his groins and this evening his diaper was drie (i spank him every morning for wetting).

Today his little bare legs are kicked around under the table from spasm, so dath one of my new chairs has now a broken leg ... I now i have definitifly to search a way to whipp him for hitting the chair. I now buyd a wew good sticks to give him more painfull punishments, maybe he will learn something ...

All the best!

Caroline


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