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Basilissa 11-27-2017 05:31 PM

"Just Forgive and Shut Up:" Christian response to sexual abuse allegations
 
Recently we have been bombarded by the news by what seems like a sudden explosion of long-forgotten sexual abuse allegations against powerful people in the media and politics (including but not limited to Bill O'Really, Charlie Rose, Harvey Weinstein, Al Franken, Roy Moore, and our Godly President Donald :wub:Trump).

I hate to repeat the obvious, but it goes without saying that all allegations against the immoral left wing media men and politicians are true, while all of the allegations against the righteous Christian men are false! :rebuke:

Nonetheless, for the sake of the argument, let's assume for a minute that a single accusation against one of the Godly Christian men is true. After all, men are visual creatures. It's a biological difference between men and women, as created by God. We women are more about touchy feelings, words, multitasking, and stuff like that. Men, on the other hand, are more practical, they can only concentrate on whatever they are currently looking at. Which is why it's women's job to wear modest apparel (1 Tim 2:9), to save men from accidentally looking at something that would make them sin in their hearts:

Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

1 John 2:16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

(We could get here into a theological argument whether that means that Christian women should wear trash bags over their entire bodies as some Muslim women do, but I'll leave that discussion to our Godly Pastors.) :ph34r:

Hence, if a woman or a girl really has been sexually assaulted by a Godly Christian man (be it a journalist, politician, or a pastor, since the #churchtoo hashtag seems to be trending in the Twitterland), we can easily deduct that it was the woman's or the little girl's fault. It was her who seduced the Godly man into sinning, be it by immodest clothing, flirtatious behavior, or just standing in the corner without drawing any attention to herself. :angry:

We women have been created to be men's servants:

Genesis 2:18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Since the woman or the girl has already caused the man to sin in his heart, there's not much difference whether they actually did "it" or not (and it would certainly help the man to, ehem, release the pressure). Hence, a woman or a girl who has caused a Godly man to rape her should just shut up and forgive:

Mark 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.


The Scripture is clear: if the victim forgives her rapist, God will forgive her for making a righteous man into a sinner.

Now, it's a totally different thing if the man was an ungodly immoral communist sinner to begin with - in this case the raped woman or girl is an innocent victim of a sexual predator, and she should denounce him publicly now, even if decades have passed since the alleged behavior making it practically impossible to prove or disprove. :thumbsup:

Bubba Buck 11-27-2017 07:07 PM

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This one time, I saw a man at a grocery store fall over and his hands landed on a woman's breasts. What amazed me, is although it was a complete accident, she got mad at him saying he intentionally touched her inappropriately. The gall of that woman. I suppose it can't be helped though. Women are powerless by nature and God's will. Men hold the power and have to take time out of their day to "help" them. The man apologized! Shouldn't you forgive those who ask for forgiveness? Especially since God is always watching? I feel like the accusers in the false media are just butt hurt that men keep winning and the women reporting these claims are crybabies about how hard Trump dominated Shillary Clinton. That's just my theory though. Maybe they're also atheists. I've begun doing research to learn how atheists tick and if I find any correlations I'll report them.

Also, Hillary supporters are gross for supporting an unclean woman who farts as reported here at my credible post I found on Facebook last year. http://dcgazette.com/2015/classic-re...public-reacts/

Johny Joe Hold 11-28-2017 02:40 PM

Re: "Just Forgive and Shut Up:" Christian response to sexual abuse allegations
 
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Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1224691)
Which is why it's women's job to wear modest apparel (1 Tim 2:9), to save men from accidentally looking at something that would make them sin in their hearts:

Since the woman or the girl has already caused the man to sin in his heart, there's not much difference whether they actually did "it" or not (and it would certainly help the man to, ehem, release the pressure). Hence, a woman or a girl who has caused a Godly man to rape her should just shut up and forgive:

The Scripture is clear: if the victim forgives her rapist, God will forgive her for making a righteous man into a sinner.

Powerful words, Sister Basilissa.

This entire country needs to just shut up about sexual abuse. The Bible told us how to handle it, nothing more needs to be said. So much is being made of our Godly Roy Moore. So little being said about what these girls were wearing when he made manly advances. Since we don't have photographs of the girls we cannot assume they were "victims". Maybe Roy himself was a victim.

What we know is that men cannot stop being men. Let's drop the subject right there.

James Hutchins 11-28-2017 03:39 PM

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What is Christianity but forgiveness? No man is perfect.All God cares is that we trey hard. I think He likes it when we fail to meet His vaulted expectations. After all, no man can be Perfect® like God is. So the more failures we have and repenting, the more God Loves True Christians™ because we are sincere and honest with our humbleness.
1 Peter 5:6
Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

When I am tired from spending a day on my knees taking in Gods Holy message, I have many times, stumbled in to the wrong room in my home and woken with a person not my wife. In the dark, I was unaware of the person beneath my 6'6" 280 pound frame. God was testing my dedication and commitment to Him. So I forgave myself every time as did the person with whom I had had relations. To err is human, forgive divine. What matters is what we do tomorrow.

handmaiden 11-28-2017 09:00 PM

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Dearest Sister Basilissa, THANK you for coming forward with this important issue.

In these End Times, it is more important than ever to stand in Resistance against Satan and all his works.

Precious men of God are being impuned daily by those who either do not understand the nature of Biblically Adherent Christianity© or those who are in outright rebellion against it.

Just look at this twilly-thing from Twitter:

"I was raped when I was 9 by a member of my church. The pastor, and my parents, told me I needed to forgive him, as that is what Jesus would do. They made me hug my rapist and tell him I forgave him.#churchtoo "


This is the most twisted witness I have ever encountered. This young woman is complaining because she was given the opportunity to shine with the Likeness of Christ and engage in the true Mission of Almighty God: Forgiveness.

If Almighty God is willing to forgive a fellow who confesses his sins before Christ, then who is some nine year old girl child to stand in opposition to God's Purpose?

Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them

It is offensive enough that a descendant of Eve would start so young in leading upright men of the Church astray, but for her to be so recalcitrant in the face of divinely apportioned authority chills my blood.

Romans 13:1-7
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same

So young, so willfully sinful . . . No surprise that she grew up to become an apostate who attacks the community of Christians with a liberal-slanted testimony of a beautiful teaching moment in God's Grace.

Someone should exhort this young woman to remember these moving words from Scripture:

1 Corithinians 13:4
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,


Such blind eyes and hard heart for one so young. A chance to give glory to God is wasted as this person tries to undermine the Christian Community. The poor girl may as well be an unredeemed atheist.


WilliamJenningsBryan 12-18-2017 01:58 AM

Re: "Just Forgive and Shut Up:" Christian response to sexual abuse allegations
 
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Originally Posted by Bubba Buck (Post 1224694)
This one time, I saw a man at a grocery store fall over and his hands landed on a woman's breasts. What amazed me, is although it was a complete accident, she got mad at him saying he intentionally touched her inappropriately. The gall of that woman. I suppose it can't be helped though. Women are powerless by nature and God's will. Men hold the power and have to take time out of their day to "help" them. The man apologized! Shouldn't you forgive those who ask for forgiveness? Especially since God is always watching? I feel like the accusers in the false media are just butt hurt that men keep winning and the women reporting these claims are crybabies about how hard Trump dominated Shillary Clinton. That's just my theory though. Maybe they're also atheists. I've begun doing research to learn how atheists tick and if I find any correlations I'll report them.

Also, Hillary supporters are gross for supporting an unclean woman who farts as reported here at my credible post I found on Facebook last year. http://dcgazette.com/2015/classic-re...public-reacts/

We never seem to get the full story in these "accusations" Brother Buck - there just might be some exculpatory evidence that would exonerate men in these instances. I'll bet that woman was stroking the cucumbers in the aisle that distracted that innocent man.

Bubba Buck 12-22-2017 01:52 AM

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Good Christian women know when their husband uses the hand against them that it's to discipline them to act more in God's image. If it was legal to do so, I would slap every bitchy liberal woman, every woman who plans to abort their unborn children, and every slutty heathen working the corners, strip clubs, and Kohl's. Why is this technique not allowed in public schools anymore like how it was in the old days?

James Hutchins 12-22-2017 12:16 PM

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Well, I am not a Biblical scholar by any measure, but it just seems to me that God forgives insignificant indiscreastions, sort of like 'boys will be boys'.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

James 5:5
Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

1st John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1st John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1st John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Anyways, everyone knows, all women are filthy whores.

Basilissa 01-17-2018 02:06 AM

Re: "Just Forgive and Shut Up:" Christian response to sexual abuse allegations
 
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Originally Posted by James Hutchins (Post 1225669)
Anyways, everyone knows, all women are filthy whores.

Amen, Brother - this is the cross that Jesus gave us, lowly females, to carry.

:jesus:

Mary Etheldreda 01-31-2018 01:31 AM

Re: "Just Forgive and Shut Up:" Christian response to sexual abuse allegations
 
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Originally Posted by handmaiden (Post 1224732)
"I was raped when I was 9 by a member of my church. The pastor, and my parents, told me I needed to forgive him, as that is what Jesus would do. They made me hug my rapist and tell him I forgave him.#churchtoo "

This is the most twisted witness I have ever encountered. This young woman is complaining because she was given the opportunity to shine with the Likeness of Christ and engage in the true Mission of Almighty God: Forgiveness.

Considering marrying at the age of 9 is no longer legally acceptable in the United States of America, the girl would have no opportunity to become his bride and serve him as his help meet as God intended. She should forgive her rapist and apologize to him as well for having lured him when she couldn't make good on her implied offer.

handmaiden 02-03-2018 04:27 PM

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Oh my dear Sisters in Christ, it is pearl-clutching time in multiple strands!

I cannot BELIEVE what this woman has to say about Our Lord and Savior's Bride on this earth.


She claims that the Church has "weaponized" forgiveness! Huh?!


Why would we make a weapon out of God's forgiving love when we already have God's righteous wrath in our arsenal?


Does this woman even have the first understanding of what Christianity actually is?

Krinsleth 12-28-2020 01:56 AM

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"All fornicators have their part in the lake of fire" be it a man or woman, if committed rape, they sinned and aren't "godly" but rather on their way downwards unless they repent and learn some self-control. Saying that men don't have self-control is contradictory to the Bible, actually saying that, means that rapists "godly" men don't even have the spirit of God. Why?2 Timothy 1:7

For God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.
2 Peter 1:5-7

For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love.


(you aren't godly if you don't have self control!)

1 Corinthians 9:27

But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified
1 Corinthians 7:9

But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
Matthew 5:28
But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

18:9
But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Basilissa 12-28-2020 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Krinsleth (Post 1278580)
"All fornicators have their part in the lake of fire" be it a man or woman, if committed rape, they sinned and aren't "godly" but rather on their way downwards unless they repent and learn some self-control.

:huh: Rape isn't sin if it's followed by marriage, dear.

Deuteronomy 22: 28-29
28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Do you see in this passage anything about sin? I surely don't. :confused: Unless you think it's a form of punishment for a man to marry the girl he raped?


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