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AFRICAN JEDI 04-17-2011 10:43 PM

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36
 
I am confused. Why would you sex with daughter?

Bible says it's not rape...Rape is only rape if sex has no consent. Would ignorant daughter accept this? Maybe

Tell me why you would sex with daughter though, very bad

Do all christians have sex with little girl?

Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson 04-17-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AFRICAN JEDI (Post 734467)
I am confused. Why would you sex with daughter?

Bible says it's not rape...Rape is only rape if sex has no consent. Would ignorant daughter accept this? Maybe

Tell me why you would sex with daughter though, very bad

Do all christians have sex with little girl?

Why on earth would a Brit speak ugga booga? I thought you people were so proud of your language.

Doug4christ 04-20-2011 02:43 AM

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[QUOTE=Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson;734472]Why on earth would a Brit speak ugga booga? I thought you people were so proud of your language.

That's so true and funny!:lol:

smile4Him 04-27-2011 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Titus Templeton (Post 728046)
Just a sidenote: Don't tell your wife about what happend or better send her away. My wife goes on vacation 2 times a year which gives me the opportunity to follow in Lots footsteps. I have 2 daughters.

you are a sick man who will burn in hell

Born Again Bob 04-27-2011 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by smile4Him (Post 740511)
you are a sick man who will burn in hell

And they'll know we are Christians by our love...

Seth Campbell 04-27-2011 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by smile4Him (Post 740511)
you are a sick man who will burn in hell

Yet the Bible calls Lot a righteous man for the exact same acts.

2 Peter 2:7-9 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; ) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

HAND OF GOD 04-27-2011 04:53 AM

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you do realize the Lot's daughters got him drunk then laid with him right? If you are going to quoit the bible get it right.:jesus:

Seth Campbell 04-27-2011 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HAND OF GOD (Post 740545)
you do realize the Lot's daughters got him drunk then laid with him right? If you are going to quoit the bible get it right.:jesus:

So, it's okay as long as you're drunk. Good to know :thumbsup:

Here I thought that personal responsibility didn't go away just because you had a couple. But since you're such a Biblical scholar.

Chuck Norris 04-30-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by smile4Him (Post 740511)
you are a sick man who will burn in hell

I aggre.

Twiggy 04-30-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphonse Alban (Post 729052)
You see, you think you have control of your life. You think that choices that you make are yours only to make. This however is not the case. Western society gives you little freedom to think that you have control, but that's it. I call it unique snowflake syndrome

You have to go to school, you have to go to work, you have to get money, you have to eat, you have to survive, you have to breath. You have to follow the rules set by the people around you. You can try to fight it screaming and kicking, but it is vain. You have zero control. World will just go on no matter what you do. You won't have any effect on world. You will be forgotten and no one will miss you. You are just one insignificant ant in Gods plan.

You think you are special, but fact is, even in these forums we see dozens of people like you every week. Even here you donít have any control. You must follow our rules for posting, or you loose your privilege to post here. Most of these unique snowflakes are even much smarter than you and still they don't have any effect on anything, but Jesus has effect on them. Some of these people sees the light and comes to us after rough start.

Has someone been watching Fight Club?

Alphonse Alban 04-30-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 742588)
Has someone been watching Fight Club?

No, I don't watch that much movies, but I do read a lot things called books. I know this may come as a shock to you, but Brad Pitt did not create Fight club.

Some of the stuff Palahniuk writes relates perfectly to these fluffy bunny Christians and atheists who thinks world revolves around them. As I made more clear in my post, you know, the parts you left out. Funny how atheist makes so many atheist cry when he calls them out as they truly are.

Did noticing this hit-in-the-head-with-hammer obvious connection made you feel special?

nova2772 05-04-2011 05:06 AM

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I don't mean to offend anyone, but Lot did choose to live in Sodom, which was very evil, and he deliberately chose the better land, so you could argue that he was greedy. He also offered to send his daughters out to be raped by the Sodomites, and I hope you don't believe that's OK. Lot may not be the worst of people, but he isn't much of a role model. Also, it's important to note that Lot didn't keep his word to God and didn't go into the town he said he would. As a result, his daughters had nobody else to reproduce with. They deliberately got Lot drunk and slept with him so that they would bear children. It is also important to note that both of the nations they gave birth to were later enemies of the Isrealites, so the whole story only gave God's chosen people a lot of trouble afterward. i always assumed that the moral was not to do this.

If there are any spelling or grammar mistakes in the above post that you feel compelled to point out, please consider that I am a young teenage girl, and the idea that anyone could interpret the story this way SCARES ME TO DEATH.

BelieverInGod 05-04-2011 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nova2772 (Post 744916)
I don't mean to offend anyone, but Lot did choose to live in Sodom, which was very evil, and he deliberately chose the better land, so you could argue that he was greedy. He also offered to send his daughters out to be raped by the Sodomites, and I hope you don't believe that's OK. Lot may not be the worst of people, but he isn't much of a role model. Also, it's important to note that Lot didn't keep his word to God and didn't go into the town he said he would. As a result, his daughters had nobody else to reproduce with. They deliberately got Lot drunk and slept with him so that they would bear children. It is also important to note that both of the nations they gave birth to were later enemies of the Isrealites, so the whole story only gave God's chosen people a lot of trouble afterward. i always assumed that the moral was not to do this.

If there are any spelling or grammar mistakes in the above post that you feel compelled to point out, please consider that I am a young teenage girl, and the idea that anyone could interpret the story this way SCARES ME TO DEATH.

Yet the Bible says that Lot was a righteous man.

2 Peter 2:7-8 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

I'm guessing that although you're supposed to be 18 to join this site, you're not really that old and lied to get onto here. That would explain why you don't understand how you can buy a house in a decent neighborhood and then have it deteriorate around you. Almost every ruined community today was once a nice community of good God fearing Americans.

Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson 05-04-2011 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nova2772 (Post 744916)
I don't mean to offend anyone, but Lot did choose to live in Sodom, which was very evil, and he deliberately chose the better land, so you could argue that he was greedy. He also offered to send his daughters out to be raped by the Sodomites, and I hope you don't believe that's OK. Lot may not be the worst of people, but he isn't much of a role model.

That couldn't be true. Peter himself tells us in the New Testament that Lot was a righteous man.

2 Peter 2:6-9 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:


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Originally Posted by nova2772 (Post 744916)
Also, it's important to note that Lot didn't keep his word to God and didn't go into the town he said he would. As a result, his daughters had nobody else to reproduce with.

That is also untrue. Lot did go to Zoar, but he left because he was afraid to dwell there. I did a four part sermon on the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah here.

Gen 19:29-30 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

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Originally Posted by nova2772 (Post 744916)
They deliberately got Lot drunk and slept with him so that they would bear children.

It is also important to note that both of the nations they gave birth to were later enemies of the Isrealites, so the whole story only gave God's chosen people a lot of trouble afterward. i always assumed that the moral was not to do this.

God Himself told the Israelites to not harm their cousins.

Deuteronomy 2:9-12 And the LORD said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession.
The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims;


The reason they were destroyed was because they had shown poor hospitality to the Israelis and they had hired Balaam.

Deuteronomy 23:3-4 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:
Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee.

Little Thoughts 05-22-2011 11:24 AM

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LMFAO... this is where pedophiles originate... CATHOLICISM! :pope:

Pastor Ezekiel 05-22-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Little Thoughts (Post 754131)
LMFAO... this is where pedophiles originate... CATHOLICISM! :pope:

The only thing you've said that I can concur with wholeheartedly. :thumbsup:

Felicity 05-22-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Little Thoughts (Post 754131)
LMFAO... this is where pedophiles originate... CATHOLICISM!

I am glad I am not a Catholic! They do bad things to children and they look funny. :innocent:

Jonesey 05-22-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 754404)
I am glad I am not a Catholic! They do bad things to children and they look funny. :innocent:

They're just plain wrong is what they are. And Latin is not God's language.

Overseer 05-23-2011 09:16 AM

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Wow... i feel sorry for your daughters... sick idiot..
And if god thought it was right WHY would he make people who was born out of incest have a high chance of mutations?

You should be in jail.

MisterM 05-23-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Overseer (Post 754721)
And if god thought it was right WHY would he make people who was born out of incest have a high chance of mutations?

Because majority of incest cases are not about creating new soldiers for the Christ but just to fornicate. See the big difference?

YiC,
Miikkael


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