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Originally Posted by WWJDnow
civilized Christians … barbaric Muslims
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The contrast is clear, and explained even in terms a secular heathen would understand. For them, how often do they say humans went through an evolutionary bottleneck and only survived because we had helpful, cooperative social norms? Perhaps, they might elaborate, there were vicious uncooperative humans but they didn't survive and instead were eaten by bears. All this was when human population was so small, due to some unknown calamity almost wiping us out, that the loss of one group would affect future populations to an exaggerated degree. The cooperative ones turned out to be the ones that survived and we didn't go around murdering one another for made up reasons, or for no reason at all, in the long term developing big brains enabling us to prevail over predators – as we still do.
Something has to go wrong to undo that survival mechanism and in this case it's the Islam.
The secular model contradicts God, however. The same principle can still be applied when we read that the first Adam I Corinthians 15:45 was sinless in a perfect world, even though he was fleshly in nature (transmuted from dust Genesis 2:7) but in any event there were no predators wanting to eat him. The last Adam experienced life but transcended the flesh to become a quickening spirit. It follows then that Christians receiving this Spirit attain that long lost sinless state, existing in a now imperfect world but definitely not savage barbarians. We cooperate as Adam would have cooperated if he had anyone to cooperate with, although in his case it was not to avoid being eaten. It's just how he was made, big brain and all, nothing to do with predators. We're both working back from the same starting point, that human populations help one another, even strangers, but cite different reasons for that being the case. Making up reasons to murder one another is very counter productive and anathema to stable society UNLESS something has gone wrong. The Islamic world is a good illustration of what happens next. Technically the homicides are not murders because they're carried out according to law. Christians understand, in that case, something has gone wrong with the laws too. And unless you're a guest of the king in his magnificent tent or an employee in one of his harems, the briefest visit to any such domain——Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, whatever the Pakistans are calling themselves these days, Nigeria (except the prince seems to be underfunded just now, despite all the oil) Algeria, Egypt and so on——gets the inevitable outcome showcased better than anything I could write.
Something has gone wrong.
Understanding what that is helps us to glean when it may be happening here. The OP seems to be tied up for some reason so here's a short song on the topic.