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Default Re: Viivisection for Proof against Wicca! - 05-18-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LyingDingDong View Post
Ezekiel Bathfire, let me spare you the trouble. I will tell you that the dolphins will not survive and so you do not need to go through the trouble of torturing these dolphins. The dolphin species has adapted to living in the ocean, they can not spontaneously adapt, that is not how natural selection works. Evolution is the gradual increase to complex diversity governed by the rules of natural selection. An animal can't choose to be adapted to any one environment. So even though your results are blindly obvious, you will not have disproved evolution.
If True Science concerned itself merely with what everyone thought was true, we would be living in the Dark Ages! I’ll tell you how the dolphin pups get on.

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Also, my question has not been answered. I don't get about the laws of God, I care only if these experiments are being produced illegally in our secular-governed country, America.
Let me put you straight on that one:

Iowa Territory was an organized territory of the United States from July 4, 1838 until Monday December 28, 1846 when the southeastern portion of it was separated to become Iowa, the 29th state. Now at the time of the joining, there were Landovers (and may still be) in other states and territories.

This lead to confusion and when Iowa was formed, the first Govenor of Iowa, James Clarke, (1812-1850) fought tirelessly to bring, what he saw as a great Christian advantage to the State, little knowing that it was already in Iowa - and no one pointed this out. So when the census of the new State was done, Landover was not included and never mentioned.

This omission could have been rectified but James Clarke died in a cholera epidemic on July 28, 1850 and Landover was forgotten and stayed unrepresented – which it found to be no disadvantage.

So without representation Landover paid no taxes to the Union and was self-governing. This meant that all laws passed in the name of Iowa, as described in the Act that brought Iowa into the Union, had no effect on Landover as no mention was made of it.

The next interesting part of history was the Civil War. Minnesota and Iowa came out on the Union side but Landover was never asked. This was just as well for, bearing in mind God’s support of slavery, Landover had enjoyed excellent relations with the Confederacy under Jefferson Davis.

At 4:30 o'clock on the morning of April 12th, the Confederates, under General Beauregard, opened fire on Fort Sumter and the Civil War had begun. President Davis called for 100,000 troops to support the independence of the South and Landover.

On April 9, 1865 General Robert E. Lee surrendered the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia to Lieutenant General Ulysses S. Grant under terms written by the latter. It was perhaps excusable that the surrender did not include Landover.

Landover continued being at war with the Union until 1959, and may have continued longer had not the error been seen by the sharp-eyed Professor Jehoram Mordant of the history department of Landover Christian University.

After some discussion with the late Pastor Deacon Aaron Carver and some very prominent members of the then majority party of the administration (who were members of Landover), it was responsibly agreed that Landover should be integrated into the Union, and, when that integration was complete, peace should be declared on terms agreeable to Landover.

The process has taken some time and negotiations at the highest level continue and have slowly brought Landover into line with most (but not all, and with several provisos) of the present Federal laws.

So, after all that, the laws on vivisection are basically those formulated before Iowa joined the Union in 1846.

There is thus no offense of animal cruelty, and, in any case, I have explained elsewhere, the experiments are proportional to the good they do.





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Author of such illuminating essays as,
Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.
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