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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 09:34 PM

Hello false believer,

I have read your message and frankly I find it disgusting and an expression of contempt for any form of reason and love for God.

It is utterly horrible and I am amazed that the reverend has been so tolerant as to let stay even if that might lead you to spew more of your hatred. We are tolerant. We do want you to come to Jesus as you rightfully claim Jesus said. What we don't want is for you to hold up the name of the Lord as some sort of shield that gives immunity from facing the consequenses of your actions. That shield won't work here and it surely won't work when your life has ended and you are cast into the eternal fires. We want you to follow Jesus as He really was, we directly follow His edicts and His example, it is after all the only way to live and to live again.

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How any single person who claims to have the love of Christ in their heart can promote these messages of hate is beyond me.
How any single person can hear Jesus say "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." and think it to mean that the law of the Old Testament is no longer in effect is beyond me.

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In the few topics that I have read they are regarding homosexuals burning in hell or adulterers being condemned. "We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
And three verses before that: "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
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Yes, it is possible to believe in Christ and be saved, but uphold even one of the laws of the old testament, say the one that tells you not to murder shows that you know the law and it applies to you, ignorance is no excuse.

Please also note the past tense of "sinned". It does not say that we will all commit sins in the future, as a matter of fact, one of the basic things that makes you Christian is hatred of sin.

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Sin is ever present in all our lives. Who among you can say that they have never looked at a woman with lust in their heart. If you have so even looked at a single woman with lust at any point in your life you are an adulterer and deserve eternal damnation. I thank the Lord, Jesus Christ, every day for the sacrifice he made so that my sins can be forgiven. This is not to say that I actively go around and sin, however, being a man, i sin daily and news flash, you all do too. It is by the blood of the one true God that we are saved.
Psychologists would characterize your behavior here as projection and confirmation bias, I prefer to call it selfishness, ignorance and stupidity.

You seem to think that just because you think of women as sex objects everyone else must think so too, that is a very egotistical way of looking at things, worse you seem to be almost proud of that fact that you sin daily.

The Bible tells us that women are saved through child bearing, so that's what you should be at the forefront of your mind when dealing with one, not on how to have sex with her.

I would like to remind of you Romans 6:12-15, even if you sin you should hate it and take steps to better yourself, not wallow in its filth like a pig, as a Christian you are no longer allowed to be a slave to your lusts.

Don't you think that if God loved you you wouldn't have these tempations when seeing women. I can assure you many men feel absolutely no lust or temptation when seeing any woman, and these men are more righteous than you, their faith is stronger than the whispers of Satan tempting the weak to sin. You are following the devil if you accept having these feelings.

I must say I liked that you brought up the topic of adultery, it reminded of another story in the Bible, one I'm sure you've heard of, but one I doubt you've ever read carefully. John 8:3-11 explains the story of the captured adultress and Jesus' forgiveness, but His forgiveness is not unconditional, He requires that the woman "go, and sin no more.". He does not tell her to "go, and commit only those sins that mainstream society deems acceptable or those you can justify to yourself", no He tells her to not commit any sins at all. None. Zip. Nada. Quite a bit different from what you thought the Bible said, isn't it? That's why I, and all other True Christians™, urge you to actually read the Bible and not just go on hearsay.

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It is our job to be a shining light,
Hahaha, that's rich coming from you, someone who introduces himself by claiming to sin daily and exhorts other men to commit adultery, either in the mind or in the flesh, it's all equal to you (and to God of course).

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"A city on a hill can't be hidden." "Let your good deeds shine amongst men so that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven." Not a single post that I read makes me want to get to know a single one of you and I love the Lord, how then are you coming across to those non-believers that have not found their way yet.
You know you're not actually converting someone to Christianity by lying about Jesus, right? By making up a fake God, one that you think is more palatable to the average heathen is a direct violation of the first commandment, and does nothing to help save these people from Hell.

Oh, and when exactly did you register and start posting on this here forum? I find it strange that you say our posts do not make you want to get to know us, but you still come up to us and not just read our posts but actively participate. I think we are doing quite well, and we'll be doing even better once we've convinced you to follow God of the Bible and not your own personal delusions.

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Remember Jesus said, "Let the children come to me" He was referring not just to children but all of God's children from inside the womb to 120 years of age.
Read those verses again: Matthew 19:13-15. He is specifically speaking of young children that are brought to Him to be blessed.

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He said that if a man causes one of His children to stumble away from Him then it would have been better if that person had never been born. You are causing people to turn away from God and mock his scriptures. There is a better way. Truth, tolerance, love. Christ spent his time with the prostitutes, tax collectors, and sinners. He did not condemn them but taught them. Spread your love and when they ask why you love so unconditionally share with them the love of Christ not the fear of eternal Hell. I ask you in the name of Jesus and all his teachings, preach love, not hate. If you disagree, please show where it is written that Jesus preaches any form of intolerance and hate. Jesus stood over an adulterer and protected her from the stones of the people. According to law she deserved death, but he protected her and gave her mercy.
Christs love is not unconditional, it is only for those who accept Him. And remember, "the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given to us." and the Holy Ghost of course only enters our body when we are baptized and accept Christ.

Accepting Him means more than bandying His name, it means following in His footsteps.

When Jesus healed one leper in a city He could thereafter not enter the city anymore because He would be accosted by a mob of people wanting to be healed. Mark 1:40-45 That teaches us something important: Jesus doles out His love sparingly and only to those who deserve it, not to just anyone who comes up to Him asking for it. But yes, we should preach God loves us, and we do, if you want God to love you too you only have to do the same thing we ask of any other sinner, Love Him first!
When a tower collapsed and people asked Jesus why He did not claim it was some sort of accident or that God loved the people killed so much He called them to Him so much sooner than normal, He did not even say those men were worse sinners than those you can find in any city, no, Jesus told the truth! Luke 13:2-5 The tower collapsed because those killed weren't Christians and to serve as a warning to all heathens: repent if you don't this to happen to you.


Leviticus 26:15-16
And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.
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