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Originally Posted by LW1997
WHAT YOU TEACH IS HERESY!
Romans 4:5, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”
My question to you is, Are there two Gospels? That is, are there two plans of salvation from God for man? The answer is a resounding, “NO!” Yet, there are two very different Gospels being taught today in the churches across America...
1. LORDSHIP SALVATION — The false gospel of John MacArthur, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Paul Washer, Jack Chick, Aiden Tozer, Rick Warren, James Dobson, David Cloud, John Piper, Charles Lawson and others, which requires a person to forsake (or be willing to forsake) their sinful behavior, make amends, and change their ways, as a prerequisite to saving faith. This false gospel confuses the FRUIT of the indwelling Holy Spirit with the ROOT of saving-faith. The sinner is required to change their own life. Believing is not enough, the sinner must commit to forsaking sinful behavior to be saved. This is a false gospel of manmade repentance. In Lordship Salvation, the sinner changes their own life, which is wrongly understood to be repentance.
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Your argument is garbled – I can’t make out your point here.
Jesus requires mankind to have Faith in Him – the only way to do that is to take Him as an example – a sort of “do as I do and as I say” approach.
Obviously, there is some test of faith, otherwise Jesus would not have gone on about “Those who cry Lord! Lord!”, would He?
We accept Jesus when we agree with everything He did and said and when our doing and saying becomes automatic and unthinking and His. At this point, if we have followed the instructions, then, we are Saved.
It is not the “willingness to be Saved” that Saves us, but the spiritual state that saves us.
Now although this may take some time to achieve, and although there is backsliding (I’m looking at you with your false gods and misunderstanding and believing the garbage that has been fed to you since birth) Jesus knows if your acceptance of Him is genuine from the start – He sees in the soul, He sees motive.
I genuinely believe that you think you have an answer, and it is a pity that you have been deluded by false prophets and the wiles of Satan because of you had made it to heaven, you could have had a word with that Patriarch, Job – he is renowned for his patience – I am not.
Please sum up your entire philosophy in 200 words – an “executive summary” if you will – it will help us both: you, as it will crystallize your thoughts and me, as it will save me reading something that may well be blasphemous.
PS - as far as you can, please keep to Jesus's Words, rather than Paul's - I feel they carry more weight, don't you?
Thank you.