[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by agnesaliencat

Forcing a child into marriage regardless of age is never in the child's best interests,

Excuse me, if this hypothetical child is neither yours or mine, who are either of us to decide what is in the child's best interests? Furthermore, you keep using the word, "force". Are you suggesting that these children are walked down the aisle in shackels? Such a bizarre picture you paint!

as it's basically saying "I brought you into this world, and now I get to choose who you love".

Now you are just being silly. "Love and marriage" only go together in that song about soups and sandwiches. Please read the Bible to see that marriage is a social, economic and spiritual concern. Love is something you feel for God.

Is that how children's rights work?

Again, children's "rights" aren't a prominent theme in the Bible.

Erm no it isn't. Not just that, but if you force a child to go through pregnancy and childbirth, you better be prepared for the possible complications (ie. be able to take them to hospital etc),

Most people are giving birth in hospitals these days, I'm not sure of your point.

. . . because pregnancy and childbirth can both kill,

If that is true, I'm surprised that the Democrats haven't passed a law banning it.

. . . and the chance of that happening is far higher if the pregnant parent is a child.

Now, I am really confused, if the pregnant parent is a parent, then why are you against parents' rights in favor of children's rights? Are you saying that the unborn child's rights are being violated? That would make you a pro-life supporter, which is certainly a step in the right direction.

That also makes you a hypocrite, as you condemn homosexuality because it can cause injuries . . .

Ahem--The BIBLE condemns homosexuality, I prefer not to think about it. And there is not a single word from God about potential injury being the reason that He despises it. I mean, hey, God is totally pro-stoning homosexuals, and I'm sure that hurts a lot worse than any kind of sex that they're having. (Or so I would assume, as I said, I really don't like to think about it that much.)

. . . (all forms of sex can[cause injury] by the way)

What sort of sex are you having?!

. . . but yet you're okay with children being raped even though you know full well that the injuries that said child can sustain could actually result in them needing surgery or even dying due to massive internal bleeding, and that's not including childbirth which can cause deadly infections to occur aswell as labor-related complications.

{Sigh} I am not okay with children being raped and bleeding internally or getting infections. I am saying that if you read the Bible, you will see that it supports the thesis statement of this thread. As for your basic thesis here about children 's rights and marriage, I must say that your perspective of marriage as a death trap of blood and infection doesn't make it sound like a safe prospect for anyone.

And that's your God's will?

I was always told that Jesus has a plan for my life. Assuming that He has a plan for other people's lives, then it is up to Him to decide when someone ovulates and if a pregnancy occurs. I have nothing to do with that.

So, if a 12 year old can't handle a pregnancy, then why did her ovaries pop out an egg? That is something to take up with God, if you have a mind to do so.


If you don't believe in God and instead insist that evolution is at work, perfecting every life form for its best shot at survival, then you need to explain why a body that can't survive a pregnancy would initiate the possibility for one in the first place.


The only responsibility that I and my comrades claim is that of telling people what is actually written in the Bible. So, please stop treating us as if we were the bad guys. We're basically just a bunch of people trying to understand a book.