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Default Re: A married woman can NEVER refuse to have sex with her husband - 11-20-2018, 06:58 PM

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God the Father and God the Holy Spirit are both one in the same. They are both God, thus they are both equal.
If they are equal, why is God commanding the Holy Spirit and not vice versa?

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Submission is a mutual thing.
Um, no, not in American English.

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Originally Posted by Merriam Webster dictionary
submission

noun

sub·​mis·​sion | \səb-ˈmi-shən \

Definition of submission

1a: a legal agreement to submit to the decision of arbitrators
b: an act of submitting something (as for consideration or inspection)also : something submitted (such as a manuscript)

2: the condition of being submissive, humble, or compliant

3: an act of submitting to the authority or control of another

Except for meaning 1b, which is not applicable here, submission implies an UNEQUAL relation between a person of authority (in the Bible, men) and a person without authority (in the Bible, women).
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Wives will bibically submit to their husbands if they love them and husbands will biblically love their wives if they respect them.
Wait, wait, what? Are you changing the rules again? Where in the Bible does it say that men are expected to respect their wives?

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Yes, women may have been sold, but that does not make it right. The Bible does not promote this ever.
Oh, really?

Let's have a look at Moses' law - you know, the laws that God dictated to Moses.

Here is one. Let's take a look:

Exodus 21:7-11
7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.
9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.
10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.
11 And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.


As you can see, the laws given by God include specific rules on how to sell your own daughter as a sex slave.

While you're at it, you may also want to check out these verses:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.


Yes. When a man rapes a girl, the Biblical way to deal with it is to make the man pay for damaging the goods, and then force the victim to marry her rapist.

Of course, the Holy Bible isn't all about rape and sex slaves. We also find there such heartwarming stories like the one about Jacob, Rachel, and Leah - one man paying in 14 years of labor for two wives (because Laban swindled Jacob after the first seven years; Genesis 29:18-30).

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When God created Adam and Eve in His image, was Eve ever bought. NO!
Of course not. Eve was a gift from God to Adam, because God was worried that Adam would feel lonely (Genesis 2:18-23).

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We do see Queens ruling Israel such as Queen Ester
She was a trophy wife of a Persian king. That's like saying that Melania Trump is holding the highest office in the USA.

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and Queen Jezabel.
I think you meant Jezebel. Phoenician princess and not a queen of her own but again, a wife of a king.

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And we even read in 2 Kings 11 that Queen Athaliah was ruling Israel as Queen.
Only because she killed everyone who had more credentials to be the ruler. She missed one (2 Kings 11:2), and was overthrown as soon as the kid was considered to be old enough to give an impression of being able to rule on his own (2 Kings 11:13-16).

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We even see Deborah leading Israel as a strong Judge over Israel.
One. One female judge in the whole Bible. A single one among many, many, many men.
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