Re: Pokemon: (aka Poke-a-man) still a threat to families -
03-03-2008, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ziamatt
I SERIOUSLY hope you're not suggesting that Pokemon is responsible for this and placing the blame on it above the fact that your grandson is three and can hardly be expected to know better.
Right, because all card games are the same. Like how playing popular games like 'Go Fish' and 'War' is just a step towards divination and Tarot reading.
[sarcasm]A company that's actually trying to SELL their product? Oh my God! Sinners! Capitalism is the work of the devil![/sarcasm]
And lots of things distract children from other duties. Sports. Girls. Almost everything poses a possible distraction. It's not because it's demonic. It's just due to the malleable nature of children at this age.
I realize why occult and evil is bad, but I really don't see anything like that in this series. The closest thing I see is ghosts, which while I'll admit is not great, is only a small, relatively unimportant part of the series and ghosts are never viewed occultly. There's no demon summoning or spell casting or anything like that.
Again, it's just something that capitalism dwells on. They dwell on the malleable nature of children. While it can pose a potential problem early on, most children do grow out of it proving that the phase is just that: a phase.
I'm really not sure where this comes from. There's nothing remotely close to that in the official Pokemon rulebooks.
Can you please provide a works cited to something about this? It's hard not to think you could be making this up without citing resources. Even adults can be guilty of having too many wants. That's why credit card debt is so high. People, adults and children, want things and want them now. It's not that these things are manipulative. It's simply that Americans want gratification NOW.
Children have always wanted things. It may not be as high tech as it is today and may have been something more like a doll or a model kit. But they still want it, and parents can either give in or stand their ground.
I'm not going to argue with this. It's good advice, and people should be aware of what their kids are into. However, it's important to realize what's fact about something and what's not.
After hearing God's warning and praying for His wisdom, nine-year-old Alan Brannan...was convicted to burn his cards...
A few of these traits do apply to Pokemon. Most of them don't, however, and a lot of the common 'character traits' you mentioned, such as stubborn and obnoxious, are viewed as bad and hindering qualities.
I fail to see how growth and supernaturality go hand-in-hand.
Saying something's demonic because it originated in Japan is NOT the best way to make Asian-American friends.
Again the issue of citing. How can people truly know the facts and make an unbiased opinion without specific examples? You mentioned that it's "manipulating the minds and feelings of children..." How? And what is meant by humanistic wisdom and spirituality?
I'm not really sure what you mean. Can you give a specific example? And anyways, even if it may be influenced by it, the show is not about Japanese mysticism at all.
Do you really think they MEANT to give children seizures with that episode? It was an accident that a combination of colors didn't go well with a few people, and nothing more.
Again, how? Where are you getting this from? Have you actually read these sources? If not, how can you make these judgements?
...The Bible says: EPH 5:8-17 "For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them...
Why is it such a problem for people to accept that things can have similar names, and yet not be at all similar. I'm not sure how it is used in other religions and rituals, but in Pokemon it is simply a way to organize the different Pokemon by their weaknesses and strengths.
Saudi Arabia Bans Pokemon Games, Cards
How? Simply because children like it? Children like lots of things. But simply because it brings them pleasure it's evil?
Again, how? It does nothing to help anyone if they don't know what you mean?
This is one aspect I was surprised to see. However, as I thought about it, I realized it wasn't that bad. The money isn't real and isn't comparable in anyway to paying off your bookie or the like. Again, it's only a small aspect and not likely to get children hooked on gambling.
How is a Hebrew symbol connected to a pagan religion again? And while I will admit that the Star of David has been used, it HASN'T been used as the Star of David, or any other religious symbol. It was only a simple design without any religious connections at all.
The point wasn't that tears can resurrect. It was that the love and compassion has the ability to save. It also showed that while the cloned Pokemon were clones, they still had basic emotions like compassion and love.
Pokemon are never shown to die. They simply faint, and most good trainers pull them out of the battle before it comes to that.
How is this offensive? It's saying you can achieve greatness, no matter what your conditions of arrival here were. Weather you born to a rich, wealthy family or a starving family who can barely feed themselves, it doesn't determine what you become.
There's a huge difference between the evolution of Pokemon and of the world. Evolution simply means "change" or "growth." That's what Pokemon do when they evolve. They grow.
Psychic powers in the Pokemon are world are viewed differently than the how we tend to view it occultly. It's seen as a naturally ability. A gift. It's not occultic at all.
I don't think Mewtwo is supposed to be a gargoyle, or a demon at all. He's viewed as an incredibly powerful Pokemon who uses his powers for bad, but then realizes his mistake and gives up the way of evil. Demons rarely convert.
Again, citing resources would be helpful. Maybe a picture, or an episode number at least? And how can you assume it was supposed to be sensual? Maybe it was an accident, or one of the artists slipped it in and no one noticed.
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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