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Default Re: Give feminists True Equality™ - 02-02-2013, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HandJob View Post
Obviously, they do want equal rights.
Since they want equal rights so badly, all I'm asking is that they get equal responsibility as well.



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Well, feminists in America already have the same essential rights as other males. They are arguing against cultural stereotypes and discrimination. Good point though, some radical feminists do go over the top with wanting females to be independent.
Most of these "cultural stereotypes" are accurate. They didn't appear out of thin air.

Since when has discrimination become a bad thing? I hate how the liberal mainstream media always acts like discrimination is so awful and horrible, yet they do it everyday.

When you're hiring for a position, and there is one person with no experience, and one with 20 years experience, what do you do? You discriminate against the person with no experience!

When an agent for a car insurance company is trying to decide what rate their customers should pay they discriminate against people who have had accidents in the past!

When you are trying to hire, you discriminate against people who are twice as likely to call in sick (women).

Arbitrary discrimination is wrong. eg. Discrimination because someone has strong religious beliefs. Not discrimination because they don't do their work properly.

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Like orphanages infringe on the independence of children. I don't think you have a firm grasp on independence.
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No, that wasn't the point of the comment. Anyways, females in shelters are dependent on others, they aren't denying this.
First you try to counter my point by telling me my grasp of independence is incorrect, then when you're called out on it you say "Well.. they actually are dependent"? I think you're the only one here without a firm grasp of independence. Also, if these women in shelters are so dependent, then why should they be talking about how equal they are to men while men are paying for their housing, food, etc.?


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Naturally unequal physically, yes. No, they should not get equal pay if they do not do the same work. However, they should get equal pay if they do equal work.
Since I already showed that they show up to work late twice as often as men, they don't do equal work, they don't get equal pay, and that's the way it should be. I don't talk about the way the world could be or would be, just the way it is.



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Is he a good football player, as good as those on NFL, even though he's short? If so, the rule is wrong and should be corrected to look for ability, not height.
Among people in his height, he's the best person I know. However, due to his height he simply can't run as fast, and can't endure tackles as much. So, no due to his height he isn't good enough. Though I think if he were taller he probably would be. He trains just as hard.

Yet I'm not aware of any "short people football". Women are a protected class who get their own segment of sports. There are lots of men just like my friend who can compete with the best women, but are not good enough to compete with the best men. These men are unfairly excluded from sports just because they happen to be a man.



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No, of course not. The laws and rules protect women from getting hurt physically by men or having to compete physically with them. Likewise, laws also prevent women from hurting men. This is what I meant, not that they should be compensated for lacking in physical ability.
My post didn't say "there should be no laws whatsoever protected women from getting attacked". Only that the violence against women act shouldn't apply to them. This is an act that was designed by Joe Biden http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/v...inst-women-act . Last I checked, the constitution guarantees equal protection under the law, yet this law demands special protection that only applies to women. It priorities women getting beaten above men getting beaten. What is "equal" about that?



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No, the man has a choice. The woman has a choice. If they scream that they want to be independent while accepting other's payments for their things, then they are hypocrites. But most of them do not do this.
Most of them do not do this?? Where'd you hear that? There's something called the US census, maybe you've heard of it. It indicates that 97% of all alimony payments are paid by men to women. It also indicates that women tend to have lower wages in joint couples. Ask any of these women if they want equal rights or independence, I bet most of them would tell you that they do.

Alimony is all about the women maintaining the lifestyle she has become accustomed to. Yet if a man were to say he was accustomed to having his laundry done, his food made, and his house clean, it wouldn't mean squat.

Again, you demand sources from me but provide none yourself.

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Well, if they don't do work, they should not complain about unequal pay. If they do equal work to men, which many of them do, they should get equal pay as men.
(See above)

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If so, then yes. However, this is not the case, as they are already getting equal pay in many places. In other places, however, they are discriminated against and get inferior pay for the same work.

Discrimination. Less opportunities. Chance/luck. And they need their own sporting events because the most talented woman at a sport cannot compete equally with the most talented man at a sport, because women are physically weaker.

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If women were really doing equal work for less money, you would see men being fired en masse and being replaced with women. What do CEOs need these men for? They can hire a women for 20% less. Yet obviously that is not happening. It is become women are inferior. They do inferior work, and they should get inferior pay as a result.
I already responded to this, and I think my response is good enough. I'm done providing sources when you haven't provided any. You say they're doing the same work? That it is all due to chance and luck? Prove it.

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Pregnancy is an exception. They have to carry a baby for 9 months and may not be able to work effectively during this time, which means they probably will need more support than males do.
These feminists have fought tooth and nail for the right to use birth control, and kill their babies with abortions. Yet the one time they could use it for a good cause, they don't. Better yet, how about they stop being such big sluts and keep their legs shut while they're on the job? They don't "have" to do anything. Can you imagine if this was applied to any other situation? Imagine if I just wanted to go mediate for 9 months, or if I just wanted to go to another country to give to charity. Should I get a meditation leave? A charity leave?

These women have a job to do, and they signed a contract to do it. It isn't the employer's problem that these women decided to be sluts. And to the women who are married, and plan to have children and take care of them. They shouldn't be getting jobs that don't have 9 months worth of vacation days.



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Foul words from a True Christian.
I'm not the one who comes here and posts with the name "Handjob". Do you go in public naked, and then blame people for accusing you of being naked? Do you shoot people, then say the people who are calling you a murderer are foul?
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